powerpoint uses what to determine the outline level in a slide?

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Hey Echo,
We've had a rash of these homework questions of late. I did not realize the
end of January was a big midterm time.

sh1ferg,
Seriously, if this is a homework question, what good would it do to just
mimic what we say? You would not have learned anything (because I would
wager that the teacher either stated this in class or gave you a solid
reference to it) and we would have wasted our time taking a test on
something we already are experts in. Tell us what you have tried, what you
ran into, what you believe and why; then we know you are really trying to
learn. We welcome people who want to really learn with open arms, and will
give you in-depth answers that will put you on the path to true
understanding. Sometimes, we even give the full and complete answers.

However, if I tell you a wrong answer and you get the test question wrong,
you will remember it (even if you end up hating me). There is even a chance
you will learn the correct answer as a byproduct of the embarrassment of a
wrong test answer. If that happens often enough, you may even get an
opportunity to repeat the entire class. That suggests the best way to
really teach you the answer, in a way you will really learn, would be to lie
to you.

So, if I just give you an answer and tell you there is a 75% chance that I
am lying to you, would you use the answer I gave?

Bill Dilworth


Echo S said:
We don't do homework here. Have you done yours? You can google this.

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sh1ferg said:
my choices are
-assigned numbers
-indents
-slide icons
-files and folders
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:-)

You do have an evil streak, don't you? lol

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Bill Dilworth said:
Hey Echo,
We've had a rash of these homework questions of late. I did not realize
the end of January was a big midterm time.

sh1ferg,
Seriously, if this is a homework question, what good would it do to just
mimic what we say? You would not have learned anything (because I would
wager that the teacher either stated this in class or gave you a solid
reference to it) and we would have wasted our time taking a test on
something we already are experts in. Tell us what you have tried, what
you ran into, what you believe and why; then we know you are really trying
to learn. We welcome people who want to really learn with open arms, and
will give you in-depth answers that will put you on the path to true
understanding. Sometimes, we even give the full and complete answers.

However, if I tell you a wrong answer and you get the test question wrong,
you will remember it (even if you end up hating me). There is even a
chance you will learn the correct answer as a byproduct of the
embarrassment of a wrong test answer. If that happens often enough, you
may even get an opportunity to repeat the entire class. That suggests the
best way to really teach you the answer, in a way you will really learn,
would be to lie to you.

So, if I just give you an answer and tell you there is a 75% chance that I
am lying to you, would you use the answer I gave?

Bill Dilworth


Echo S said:
We don't do homework here. Have you done yours? You can google this.

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances http://tinyurl.com/36grcd
PowerPoint 2007 Complete Makeover Kit http://tinyurl.com/32a7nx


sh1ferg said:
my choices are
-assigned numbers
-indents
-slide icons
-files and folders
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
 
Moi? Well yes, but not in this case. Showing someone the value of real
learning is the noblest thing a teacher can provide. I'm being frickin'
noble.

I've always been fascinated by the students that learn for 48 hours, then
forget everything once the test is completed. I wonder why they took the
class in the first place, if they don't want to retain the information. The
piece of paper means nothing without the retained knowledge behind it -- it
cheapens the paper, the school, the teacher, and the student.


Bill Dilworth


Echo S said:
:-)

You do have an evil streak, don't you? lol

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances http://tinyurl.com/36grcd
PowerPoint 2007 Complete Makeover Kit http://tinyurl.com/32a7nx


Bill Dilworth said:
Hey Echo,
We've had a rash of these homework questions of late. I did not realize
the end of January was a big midterm time.

sh1ferg,
Seriously, if this is a homework question, what good would it do to just
mimic what we say? You would not have learned anything (because I would
wager that the teacher either stated this in class or gave you a solid
reference to it) and we would have wasted our time taking a test on
something we already are experts in. Tell us what you have tried, what
you ran into, what you believe and why; then we know you are really
trying to learn. We welcome people who want to really learn with open
arms, and will give you in-depth answers that will put you on the path to
true understanding. Sometimes, we even give the full and complete
answers.

However, if I tell you a wrong answer and you get the test question
wrong, you will remember it (even if you end up hating me). There is
even a chance you will learn the correct answer as a byproduct of the
embarrassment of a wrong test answer. If that happens often enough, you
may even get an opportunity to repeat the entire class. That suggests
the best way to really teach you the answer, in a way you will really
learn, would be to lie to you.

So, if I just give you an answer and tell you there is a 75% chance that
I am lying to you, would you use the answer I gave?

Bill Dilworth


Echo S said:
We don't do homework here. Have you done yours? You can google this.

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances http://tinyurl.com/36grcd
PowerPoint 2007 Complete Makeover Kit http://tinyurl.com/32a7nx


my choices are
-assigned numbers
-indents
-slide icons
-files and folders
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
 
Steve Rindsberg said:
Ah, but wait! What if we told you that 50% of the time Bill lies about
whether
or not he's lying 75% of the time. Of that 50%, sometimes he lies about
the
exact percentage of the time he's lying, sometimes he simply lies about
whether
he's lying at all. Would you then believe him? And would you believe US?
Maybe we're just kidding. What odds would you give me on that bet?
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That reminds me of a logic problem:
You have an opportunity to ask either Bill or Steve one question. You know
that one of them always lies and one of them always tells the truth, but you
don't know which one is which. What should you do?

Lucy
 
Lucy Thomson said:
That reminds me of a logic problem:
You have an opportunity to ask either Bill or Steve one question. You know
that one of them always lies and one of them always tells the truth, but
you don't know which one is which. What should you do?
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Or an algebra problem. Bill lies 50% of the time, Steve lies the other 50%.
If they walk closer to one another and meet in the middle, how many steps
will they have taken?

lol

So we now have probablility and statistics, logic, and algebra. Not bad for
one measly homework question. :-)
 
Steve Rindsberg said:
Easy. Look to see which one has a beard.
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....and therefore something to hide?

In case anyone should care, the answer is to ask "What would the other fella
tell me to do?" then do the opposite :-)

Lucy
 
Steve Rindsberg said:
You asked "which one is which". Bill's got a beard. So he's "which" and
I'm
the other "which". See? Easy.
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If you say so ;-)
We're getting closer here, but ... tell you to do? About what?

I think either the setup or the punchline's gone adrift. <g>
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Ok , so the original puzzle involves 2 doors - one that leads to a not very
nice place and one that leads to a pub with a cold pint of Coopers Pale
waiting. 2 people guard the doors and one of them always tells the truth
while the other one always lies but you don't know which one is which. You
only get to ask one question and you only get to ask one of the guards. So
you ask "Which door would the other guard tell me to go through?" and then
go through the *other* door.

Definietly makes more sense with the doors. I was stretching it a bit with
the whole 'answer a question about powerpoint' thing granted, but I can't
help it if these things pop into my mind. And somewhere in the mists of time
of this thread someone said something that made me think of it. Can't think
who or what now :-)
 
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