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I noticed there are several people here posting with valid email addresses.
As far as I knew this was bad practice however, some seem to be from
people who are offering good/valuable advice.
Has this changed in anyway or are they using some means of avoiding
spambots picking up the addresses that I'm not aware of.
 
Syncme a écrit :
I noticed there are several people here posting with valid email addresses.
As far as I knew this was bad practice however, some seem to be from
people who are offering good/valuable advice.
Has this changed in anyway or are they using some means of avoiding
spambots picking up the addresses that I'm not aware of.
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My address is valid and the words "bidon à virus" can loosely be
translated as "virus receptacle".
If you use a valid address then nothing ever bounces and so you are
helping to reduce traffic. You can check your mail every couple of days
and it's a good way to build up a non-scientific virus collection. ;-)
 
This is Syncme for forever:
I noticed there are several people here posting with valid email addresses.
As far as I knew this was bad practice however, some seem to be from
people who are offering good/valuable advice.
Has this changed in anyway or are they using some means of avoiding
spambots picking up the addresses that I'm not aware of.
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I just started to use (for Usenet) the e-mail address given by my
(free) ISP.

What good is 250MB if the POP3/SMTP servers are bad and their webmail
service is really buggy?

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Frederic said:
Syncme a écrit :


My address is valid and the words "bidon à virus" can loosely be
translated as "virus receptacle". If you use a valid address then
nothing ever bounces and so you are helping to reduce traffic. You
can check your mail every couple of days and it's a good way to
build up a non-scientific virus collection. ;-)
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You may also use an address like mine is here.
(e-mail address removed)

"example" is reserved for testing, and supposedly, any mail host that
conforms to 'the rules' should not even send anything to a top-level
domain of "invalid". So ... no clogging the pipe, so to speak.

I've been using a.nony.mous for years; make up your own. <g>
(e-mail address removed)

Never use a real domain and TLD in a mung. Someone may own it.
 
I noticed there are several people here posting with valid email addresses.
As far as I knew this was bad practice however, some seem to be from
people who are offering good/valuable advice.
Has this changed in anyway or are they using some means of avoiding
spambots picking up the addresses that I'm not aware of.
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Nothing has changed for me. I've never needed to use fake addresses
and have been using real e-mail addresses for about ten years. All my
addresses converge into one address which uses a spam filtering
service and a few kill filters of my own. I don't get viruses because
I don't download binaries, large messages, use OE or read html.


Steve Wolstenholme Neural Planner Software
 
Frederic said:
My address is valid and the words "bidon à virus" can loosely be
translated as "virus receptacle".
If you use a valid address then nothing ever bounces and so you are
helping to reduce traffic. You can check your mail every couple of days
and it's a good way to build up a non-scientific virus collection. ;-)
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I get enough viruses from people who have my email address in their
address book anyway. The only thing you'll collect using a valid email
address in a newsgroup is spam, and I have no interest in collecting
that whatsoever!
 
I get enough viruses from people who have my email address in their
address book anyway. The only thing you'll collect using a valid email
address in a newsgroup is spam, and I have no interest in collecting
that whatsoever!
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There are simple ways to avoid spam. I only get two or three a day
using the same address that I have used for over ten years.


Steve Wolstenholme Neural Planner Software
 
Syncme said:
I noticed there are several people here posting with valid email addresses.
As far as I knew this was bad practice however, some seem to be from
people who are offering good/valuable advice.
Has this changed in anyway or are they using some means of avoiding
spambots picking up the addresses that I'm not aware of.
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I have two types of email address. This one gets the viruses and spam.
The ones I check frequently don't get handed out on the Internet.

Jerry
 
from the said:
I noticed there are several people here posting with valid email addresses.
As far as I knew this was bad practice however, some seem to be from
people who are offering good/valuable advice.
Has this changed in anyway or are they using some means of avoiding
spambots picking up the addresses that I'm not aware of.
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My ISP requires me to use a real address for emails, and it's too much
hassle to change it every time for usenet. All viruses and most spam is
taken out by two layers of filters at the ISP .. the few spams that get
through give me something to amuse Spamcop with.
 
The voice of "Syncme" drifted in on the cyber-winds,
from the sea of virtual chaos...
I noticed there are several people here posting with valid email
addresses. As far as I knew this was bad practice however, some
seem to be from people who are offering good/valuable advice.
Has this changed in anyway or are they using some means of
avoiding spambots picking up the addresses that I'm not aware of.
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It all works out to the level your at...

When you first start out "munging" is the easiest way to deal with spam
& Viruses. One quick mod and the UCE trickles to a stop in 6 to 8
months (results may very). If your luck you'll never see the
Spam/Viruses/Malware again; or about as long as it takes someone with
your Un-munged email address to become infected/exploited.

The second step away is to use a real email account and use your
provider's email filters (a filtered account). It's an active
approach, but prone to a varying degree of lost email...

At some point you realizes that email can be important enough that it
can't be missed. That's where a growing trend in using a "drop box"
comes into play. It can be a second account, a forwarded web-mail, or
even an alias on your domain, as long as it can be "visually checked"
occasionally for real email so you know you didn't miss anything.


Oh, and I don't mung my Usenet address...
The "spam@" part is only there to exploit many of the harvesting
viruses trend in ignoring "invalid" email addresses. };8)
 
I noticed there are several people here posting with valid email
addresses. As far as I knew this was bad practice however, some seem
to be from people who are offering good/valuable advice.
Has this changed in anyway or are they using some means of avoiding
spambots picking up the addresses that I'm not aware of.
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Bad practice? For some, perhaps. If you're on broadband, have the ability
to set up an extra email account (most ISP's I've run into allow you to set
up several) and you're knowledgeable enough to create a very simple filter
in your email client for that account, then you can easily use a real email
address and not be overly bothered by spam.

As a for instance, I mainly use this email address for Usenet these days
and I've put a simple filter on it in my email client. Any incoming email
to this address is checked for the presence of "spam(trap)key" somewhere in
the email. If it's there, then the email is moved to a mailbox I monitor.
If it is not there then the email is automatically trashed. Relatively
simple and effective. As far as I'm concerned, the bots can harvest this
email address all day long and the spammers can send their crap to this
address as much as they want to since I won't see any of it. And it's
relatively easy for anyone to send an email to me when responding to a
Usenet posting. All they have to do is click on the Reply button and leave
in the quoted material since the key is in my sig. Even a newbie can
usually manage to do that. <<smile>>
 
Syncme said:
I noticed there are several people here posting with valid email addresses.
As far as I knew this was bad practice however, some seem to be from
people who are offering good/valuable advice.
Has this changed in anyway or are they using some means of avoiding
spambots picking up the addresses that I'm not aware of.
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consider the possibility that people who want to help others feel it is
more important to be easy to contact than to avoid spambots...

mozilla does a good job of dealing with my spam, that's for sure...
 
Syncme said:
I noticed there are several people here posting with valid email addresses.
Yep....

As far as I knew this was bad practice however, some seem to be from
people who are offering good/valuable advice.
Has this changed in anyway or are they using some means of avoiding
spambots picking up the addresses that I'm not aware of.
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My address is so ingrained in so many web archives of so many mailing lists,
news group posts, etc from before spam (specifically, address harvesting)
became a problem that there is no point in trying to beat it. If I started
munging my address in Usenet posts today (I wouldn't for other, non-spam
reasons that don't matter here anyway), I would never see a change in my
spam-load I could reliably attribute to that action.

If you have a long-established address, changing it to avoid spam is no
better than to stop using Email, and wopuld mean "the spammers won". I'm
still hopeful we will defeat the shi*theads who generate spam, so am not
giving in to them anytime soon...

(And, because of what I do, I actually want -- almost "need" -- to see my
spam, so yes, I currently "enjoy" an 80-90% spam-load in my Email...)
 
I noticed there are several people here posting with valid email addresses.
As far as I knew this was bad practice however, some seem to be from
people who are offering good/valuable advice.
Has this changed in anyway or are they using some means of avoiding
spambots picking up the addresses that I'm not aware of.
Click to expand...

For people who are willing to let their isp's virus filter delete the incoming
mail, or who run their computer 24 hours a day, with auto download, and
delete of viruses, using their real email address is ok.

I only started munging my address, after the w32.swen worm caused me
to lose email, due to my inbox fillinig up. I could switch back to an unmunged
address, till the next swen type outbreak, but see no reason to.

See http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.comp.virus/msg/4759923a5b6046ea?dmode=source
or http://makeashorterlink.com/?O47D31E6A for the gory details<g>.

BTW, once the spammers have your address, they never stop sending the
spam. I haven't posted this address, unmunged, since Oct, 2003, and still
get over a hundred spam per day.

Regards, Dave Hodgins
 
It's was interesting to see peoples reasoning and solutions for it.
I currently only use my work email address. I don't use the address provided
by my ISP (they correspond with me through my work address). I'll probably
end up setting up an online address somewhere.
 
For people who are willing to let their isp's virus filter delete the
incoming
mail, or who run their computer 24 hours a day, with auto download, and
delete of viruses, using their real email address is ok.

I only started munging my address, after the w32.swen worm caused me
to lose email, due to my inbox fillinig up. I could switch back to an
unmunged
address, till the next swen type outbreak, but see no reason to.

See
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.comp.virus/msg/4759923a5b6046ea?dmode=source
or http://makeashorterlink.com/?O47D31E6A for the gory details<g>.

BTW, once the spammers have your address, they never stop sending the
spam. I haven't posted this address, unmunged, since Oct, 2003, and still
get over a hundred spam per day.

Regards, Dave Hodgins
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I currently only use my work address and have kept it away from the public
display and after about 6 years I only get about 1-2 spams per day and has
been that way pretty well all along.
Knock on wood....
 
kurt said:
consider the possibility that people who want to help others feel it is
more important to be easy to contact than to avoid spambots...

mozilla does a good job of dealing with my spam, that's for sure...
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"consider the possibility that people who want to help others feel it is
more important" to share the problem/solution rather than discuss it
privately.
 
You may also use an address like mine is here.
(e-mail address removed)

"example" is reserved for testing, and supposedly, any mail host that
conforms to 'the rules' should not even send anything to a top-level
domain of "invalid". So ... no clogging the pipe, so to speak.

I've been using a.nony.mous for years; make up your own. <g>
(e-mail address removed)

Never use a real domain and TLD in a mung. Someone may own it.
Click to expand...

I like this .... thanks....
 
My address is valid and the words "bidon à virus" can loosely be
translated as "virus receptacle".
If you use a valid address then nothing ever bounces and so you are
helping to reduce traffic. You can check your mail every couple of days
and it's a good way to build up a non-scientific virus collection. ;-)
Click to expand...
There's a scary thought...
Follow up question...how often you wipe your system...:)
 
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