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Many times, when I try to either post a new item or to reply to a response to
my question I get an error messge saying "....an error has occurred..."
essentially saying that my post did not work. About half the time I try the
post again since I am told it did not go thru, only to find it DID go thru!.
I tried posting this new thread yesterday and it did NOT go thru. This one
may not either. Whatever MS did when it changed this site certainly put a lot
of bugs in it.
There is not even a "Sign-In". You have to go to "Manage Profile" and then
try to get back to the Discussion Group. If I don't do this I get: "the page
you requested cannot be displayed". To make matters worse, I have tried email
to the MS help site and have NEVER gotten the courtesy of a response. I do
NOT have any kind of similar problem on ANY other website.
 
Quit using that rinky dink Microsoft CDO for Windows 2000 and use a real
newsreader like Outlook Express.

Getting News from Newsgroups
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/using/howto/oe/gettingnews.asp

Using Outlook Express To View Newsgroups
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=/directory/worldwide/en-gb/newsout.asp

Viewing and Posting to Newsgroups
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/using/howto/oe/newsgroups.asp

Windows XP Newsgroup Setup Instructions
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/using/newsgroups/setup.asp

Setting up Outlook Express Newsreader
http://michaelstevenstech.com/outlookexpressnewreader.htm

Set Up Outlook Express
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/using/howto/oe/setup.asp
 
Whoa!
What you responded to is called a "Newsgroup", also referred to as a
discussion group, you know question-answer etc as you responded to my
question. I said nothing about a "newsreader". I have no interest in that
and didn't refer to it. And I said nothing about Windows 2000. I have XP
which should be apparent since you responded to "Windows XP Security
discussion group. And I have no clue what you refer to as Microsoft CDO.
What I need is some help with the question I asked.
 
Whoa!
What you responded to is called a "Newsgroup", also referred to as a
discussion group, you know question-answer etc as you responded to my
question. I said nothing about a "newsreader". I have no interest in
that and didn't refer to it. And I said nothing about Windows 2000. I
have XP which should be apparent since you responded to "Windows XP
Security discussion group. And I have no clue what you refer to as
Microsoft CDO. What I need is some help with the question I asked.
Click to expand...

Well..... IF you were using a newsreader, you could see the headers
accompanying your message (some below).

..From: "=?Utf-8?B?SmltIFQ=?=" <[email protected]>
..Subject: Posting new and replies
..Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 08:49:02 -0700
..Lines: 12
..Message-ID: <[email protected]>
..MIME-Version: 1.0
..Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Utf-8"
..Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
..X-Newsreader: Microsoft CDO for Windows 2000
..Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message
..Importance: normal
..Priority: normal
..X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.0
..Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.security_admin


As you can plainly see, it says the Newsreader is 'Microsoft CDO for
Windows 2000' which, has nothing to do with the OS you are currently
using. Who the hell even knows what M$ CDO for Win2K is anyway....(after
a quick search, CDO is a set COM components used to create manage and
send internet messages by SMTP or NNTP protocols). In other words, it's
part of a web page script.

Altho Wes referred to Outlook (or OE) as a 'real' newsreader, I beg to
differ, but it is way better than any web-to-news portal, as evident by
your posting problem.

Might I suggest you try XNews to read text newsgroups, binaries are
another story.

And YES!, the question was answered. The answer was stop using whatever
site you are using and use a 'real' newsreader. Your ISP, 99% of the
time, provides you with an NNTP (or Usenet, or News, whatever you want to
call it) server. For text groups, there are also decent free servers.

Regards,

DanS
 
Dan S
I guess it gets curiouser and curiouser! I still did NOT say anything about
a "Newsreader" or Windows 2000". Since I'm NOT using a "newsreader" I don't
see the headers referred to.. I AM talking about THIS Microsoft Community
newsGROUP site, the one to which you and Wes responded to on my posted
question. I do NOT use a newsreader site and I am not interested in doing
so., and sorry, NO, my question has not been answered or addressed. I'm not
sure where the disconnect is from my question to the responses. I am merely
using THIS site which is not a newsreader site, to post a question.
 
Jim;
The web based interface you are using IS the problem.
To solve your problems and get better functionality, use a newsreader
and quit using the web interface.
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=171164
There are also other options.
They all give you access to the newsgroup you are accessing on the web
interface, they just do it better.

If you read back to your original post, you will see you did not ask a
question.
That may be the cause of the confusion.
You may be thinking one thing while another person interprets it
differently.
Directly asking the question usually gets a more direct answer.
Otherwise your post is nothing more than a few facts many are already
aware of.
 
Dan S
I guess it gets curiouser and curiouser! I still did NOT say anything
about a "Newsreader" or Windows 2000". Since I'm NOT using a
"newsreader" I don't see the headers referred to.. I AM talking about
THIS Microsoft Community newsGROUP site, the one to which you and Wes
responded to on my posted question. I do NOT use a newsreader site and
I am not interested in doing so., and sorry, NO, my question has not
been answered or addressed. I'm not sure where the disconnect is from
my question to the responses. I am merely using THIS site which is not
a newsreader site, to post a question.

:
Click to expand...

<SNIP>

Yes Jim it is a newsreader site, apparently dedicated to the microsoft.*
hierarchy only.

The confusion stems from the fact that I think you don't understand fully
what the site you are using is actually doing.

This newsgroup is not part of Microsoft. This newsgroup is part of
Usenet, ANOTHER part of the internet, like the web, e-mail, ftp sites,
irc, etc. The web site you are using seems to be HOSTED by Microsoft
maybe, allowing web access to the Microsoft.* newsgroups.

Think of it this way, your ISP most likely offers a Web interface for
your E-Mail. Do you use it ? Most likely you use an e-mail client, like
Outlook, Eudora, Pegasus, Incredimail, etc. This is what the website is
doing for newsgroups. You can use it through a website, but can also
access using a Usenet client (a newsreader).

The site is taking your question/reply/comment, formatting it NNTP
format, then POSTING it to a Usenet server. That message then propagates
across all(?) of the Usenet server's across the world that carry that
newsgroup.

This header shows it's path:
authen.yellow.readfreenews.net
!green.octanews.net
!news-out.octanews.net
!teal.octanews.net
!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com
!nntp.giganews.com!wn14feed
!worldnet.att.net
!204.71.34.3
!newsfeed.cwix.com
!TK2MSFTNGP08.phx.gbl
!TK2MSFTNGXA03.phx.gbl

I got it off of the first one, and you posted it to the last one.
I'm not sure of the actual total, but there's got to be upwards of
200,000 newsgroups now.

I'm pretty certain that none of the replies to your posts are being
entered in a web page, they are all being sent with a newsreader.

By using a newsreader software, you would be able to participate in the
non-microsoft groups as well. Whatever your interests are there's a
Usenet hierarchy for it, I'm sure. For computer related stuff, there's a
giant COMP.* hierarchy, that deals with ALL computer issues, from
harware, to software, to embedded, to DOS, just about everything. There's
the ALT.BINARIES.* hierarchy which is loaded with
software/movies/music/porn, the list goes on and on.

Regards,

DanS
 
Thanks, Dan-
You are 100% correct! I do not have a clue in understanding the site I am
using fully. I have accessed it for years and until recently Had no problem
at all. It's the same site since I get to it from the "favorite" I used for
years. The site is identified as Microsoft Support so I assumed it was a
Microsoft site.
I use Outlook Express and of course it has the newsreader function which I
have never used and would not know how for the purpose of getting
question/answer support. I'll fool with it and see if I can figure out what
to do. Both you and others have mentioned the headers. From email I can read
the headers but from this site there does not seem to be such an option.
If I go to the site(s) you mention such as
www.authen.yellow.readfreenews.net, does this get me where I need to go. This
"Microsoft" site is indeed a bunch of crap as one respondent put it.
Thanks
 
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