popcorn-like email client for Linux?

[gian3000it]

Is there a program that allows you to view whatever messages are
stored on your pop3 server and make it possible for you to delete
them on the server *before* downloading them to your PC, if you
choose so, that also does SSL and possibly smtp?

Popcorn does all that splendidly under MS Windows. So far, the
only client for Linux that I have come across that comes close is
KShowmail, however, it does not support SSL or other types of
secured connections, and does not do smtp, is much larger in
size than popcorn and with many less features...

 

[Aragorn]

:/

Is there a program that allows you to view whatever messages are
stored on your pop3 server and make it possible for you to delete
them on the server *before* downloading them to your PC, if you
choose so, that also does SSL and possibly smtp?

Popcorn does all that splendidly under MS Windows. So far, the
only client for Linux that I have come across that comes close is
KShowmail, however, it does not support SSL or other types of
secured connections, and does not do smtp, is much larger in
size than popcorn and with many less features...

Not an exact match for what you're describing, but /KMail/ can delete
mail on the POP3 server without downloading it, via a set of POP
filters that you can set up. It also does support SSL.

Hope this was useful... ;-)

 

[gian3000it]

Not an exact match for what you're describing, but /KMail/ can delete
mail on the POP3 server without downloading it, via a set of POP
filters that you can set up. It also does support SSL.

Hope this was useful... ;-)

I've used KMail for ages, but perhaps you have never tried any
of the programs I was referring to...

It has got nothing to do with filtering mail. With popcorn you
access your pop3 servers, are presented with all emails that are
on the server by subject (or date, etc.) without the need of
downloading the body of the messages, and there you have a
choice to see the headers, or to read, say, the first 50 lines of
a message, or to read the whole message, without downloading
anything to your PC. You can then choose to delete whatever
emails from the server (spam ones, lenghty ones, etc.), then use
another program, if you wish, such as KMail, to download and
save to your computer the good ones.

Programs like popcorn allow you to operate directly, with a visual
feedback, on the servers, thus cutting down the amount of time
it would instead take to download everything there is and then
skimming through the messages locally. If you have never tried
any of these clients, I suggest you do. Once you do, and experience
them, it's very unlikely you go back to the standard way of reading
pop mail.

 

[jmatt]

Is there a program that allows you to view whatever messages are stored on your pop3 server.

These may suit.

POP's Rider
http://nicetoad.homelinux.org/poprider_eng.html

YPOPs!
http://www.ypopsemail.com/

Mpop
http://www.icewalkers.com/Linux/Software/Internet/Networking/E-Mail/Utilities/1750/
http://mpop.sourceforge.net/

PopMail
http://www.sromero.org/prog/popmail.php

I use Windows & used to do it your way, until I got an email client
that has an option to delete the unwanted mail off the server.
Unfortunatly no Linux version.

KMail should be able to do that.
http://kmail.kde.org/
On-demand downloading or deleting without downloading of big mails on a
POP3 server
http://kmail.kde.org/features.html

Here is a listing on Linux email clients that may be able to do that.
List of freely available Mail clients
http://mahogany.sourceforge.net/clients.html
http://www.debianhelp.co.uk/tools.htm
http://www.linux.org/apps/all/Networking/Email.html

 

[Mark Marsh]

Is there a program that allows you to view whatever messages are
stored on your pop3 server and make it possible for you to delete
them on the server *before* downloading them to your PC, if you
choose so, that also does SSL and possibly smtp?

Popcorn does all that splendidly under MS Windows. So far, the
only client for Linux that I have come across that comes close is
KShowmail, however, it does not support SSL or other types of
secured connections, and does not do smtp, is much larger in
size than popcorn and with many less features...

Popcorn should work quite well with Wine (haven't tested it though)
POPTray will also work with Wine.

 

[3c273]

On Mon, 03 Jul 2006 13:12:38 -0700, gian3000it wrote:

Popcorn should work quite well with Wine (haven't tested it though)
POPTray will also work with Wine.

When I run Popcorn under WINE, it has a bug where if you delete one email,
it deletes them all! My WINE install is pretty old though. YMMV.
Louis

 

[gian3000it]

These may suit.

POP's Rider
http://nicetoad.homelinux.org/poprider_eng.html

Unfortunately they offer only a Microsoft Windows version.

YPOPs!
http://www.ypopsemail.com/

This one is specific to Yahoo! email accounts (I don't have one...)

Mpop
http://www.icewalkers.com/Linux/Software/Internet/Networking/E-Mail/Utilities/1750/
http://mpop.sourceforge.net/

This one is a console email retrieval program, similar to fetchmail
(but simpler).
I've used it for some time now, but it has nothing to do with what we
are talking about here.

PopMail
http://www.sromero.org/prog/popmail.php

Similar to the previous one, it allows you to set filters for
downloading.
But again, it has nothing to do with with type of GUI programs like
popcorn that we are discussing here.

I use Windows & used to do it your way, until I got an email client
that has an option to delete the unwanted mail off the server.
Unfortunatly no Linux version.

That doesn't really help either...

KMail should be able to do that.
http://kmail.kde.org/
On-demand downloading or deleting without downloading of big mails on a
POP3 server
http://kmail.kde.org/features.html

As I said before, I've used kmail for a long time, but it just allows
you
to set filters, but not to view a list of what's on the server and
delete
beforehand what you don't care to download.

Here is a listing on Linux email clients that may be able to do that.
List of freely available Mail clients
http://mahogany.sourceforge.net/clients.html
http://www.debianhelp.co.uk/tools.htm
http://www.linux.org/apps/all/Networking/Email.html

Unfortunately, they don't. Sorry. But thanks for the effort.

 

[gian3000it]

Popcorn should work quite well with Wine (haven't tested it though)
POPTray will also work with Wine.

Others have pointed out that popcorn works fine with Wine. But
does it make sense to install Wine (I have no idea how much
space that would take, but my guest is that it would be a lot...)
just to support a 200KB program? (that's popcorn - so small and
yet so featureful and useful...)

I really wish there could be something like that for Linux... Is it
possible no one has come up with something similar?

 

[gian3000it]

When I run Popcorn under WINE, it has a bug where if you delete one email,
it deletes them all! My WINE install is pretty old though. YMMV.
Louis

How much hd space does it take for Wine, and is it does it waste a lot
of resources (CPU/RAM)?

 

[3c273]

I'm not sure about the space, the download is less than 10 MB. As for
resources, it doesn't waste any resources because if I want to run Windows
programs under Linux, then that's what I need to do it ;-) It runs fine on
a P3 500/384.
Louis

 

[gian3000it]

I'm not sure about the space, the download is less than 10 MB. As for
resources, it doesn't waste any resources because if I want to run Windows
programs under Linux, then that's what I need to do it ;-) It runs fine on
a P3 500/384.
Louis

I have a spare machine (P3 800/256) that I use to play around with
stuff... So I downloaded the latest wine (ver. 0.9.16) and, yes, it
was about 10MB. When installed, it amounts to 49MB of used-up
disk space! By the way, I tried it out with the latest released
popcorn (ver. 1.74 - the last before, unfortunately, development
on it was discontinued in 2005) and popcorn works just great
with wine!!!

However, what needs to be said is that popcorn is a an amazingly
small program considered all that it does - about 125KB in size -
and it absolutely makes no sense to me to install wine at almost
50MB just to support an 125KB executable... That, in fact, would
be the only use I'd have for it, since I do not need any other
programs that are windoze based. So, wine goes out and I'll keep
using windows (dual-booting win98 on my PC) to use popcorn to
take care of the bulk of my less frequently used email accounts.

I find it amazing, though, that no one has come up with such an
application for linux, as this little program (popcorn) is absolutely
useful, and wonderful, for those with pop mail accounts. If I were
a programmer, that would be my next project.

Should anyone know of such a program for linux, please post it
here or, should too long a time have elapsed making it impossible
to reply to this thread, please start a new one under the same
topic and post it. I'll be on the lookout for it...

Thanks,
Gianni

 

[rich]

Popcorn should work quite well with Wine (haven't tested it though)
POPTray will also work with Wine.

Interested in this so I tried Popcorn, launched with wine (Mepis 6
installation)
and it works ok but a search through the package manager came up with Korn.
Sits in the tray, displays the number of emails on the server, displays the
headers and on the quick test I have just given it deletes whatever you
want.
So, if you are using a Debian linux +kde Korn is worth a look

http://packages.debian.org/unstable/kde/korn

 

[gian3000it]

a search through the package manager came up with Korn.
Sits in the tray, displays the number of emails on the server, displays the
headers and on the quick test I have just given it deletes whatever you
want.
So, if you are using a Debian linux +kde Korn is worth a look

I'm using slackware... I've looked at the korn documentation both
at kde.org and elsewhere and korn is described as an email checker
and nowhere does it say that it can delete mail from the server
before downloading the messages (except, perhaps, by setting up
filters?)

Unfortunately, it's not available singly but only as part of the kdepim
package (12+MB just for the sources...)

Could you describe how you were able to delete unwanted messages
from the server with korn? Does it list messages that are on the
server,
message sizes, subjects, whom from, etc. and then allow you to select
which ones to delete after looking at them (or is this done through
filters you can set up)?

Thanks,
Gianni

 

[3c273]

Disk space is somewhere around $.50/GB(US). What exactly are you saving that
precious nickel's worth of disk space for anyway?
Louis

 

[Dave Gibson]

[Followup-To set to colm]


[interactive program to delete mail on the server]

Should anyone know of such a program for linux, please post it
here or, should too long a time have elapsed making it impossible
to reply to this thread, please start a new one under the same
topic and post it. I'll be on the lookout for it...

http://freshmeat.net/projects/poppy/

 

[Michael Black]

Disk space is somewhere around $.50/GB(US). What exactly are you saving that
precious nickel's worth of disk space for anyway?
Louis

The issue seems to be the original poster likes a given program. The
exact size doesn't seem to be as important as that it's not too big.
And then, he seems to be stuck on finding a Linux program that
fits whatever he specifically likes about that Windows program.

Obviously, if the program is so unique, then running Wine to run
the program makes sense. But given that it's not likely to be
truly unique, there must be linux programs that do the same
basic thing, taking up more space but not as much as Wine.

Michael

 

[gian3000it]

Disk space is somewhere around $.50/GB(US). What exactly are you saving that
precious nickel's worth of disk space for anyway?
Louis

Well, since you asked...

For one, there is the pleasure of running a system that is optimized
around the applications you use, and without any unnecessary waste
in resources, to make it efficient, fast, and also capable of running
on old equipment you own, which would otherwise be useless...
It's a beauty to behold, being able to run a compact system with
the latest open source software, flawlessly and efficiently, on,
say, your old 486DX66 machine. I don't know if you can understand
that.

Second and most important, I happen to be one who runs his main
linux install on an unionfs file system (I like the security benefits
of it foremost).
Such a system is completely loaded in and run from RAM memory.
Being that the case, any MB I can spare adds to the system in
terms of speed and efficiency.

And lastly, it's just the concept of it. It is absurd to me that I
should waste 50MB of disk space in order to accomplish a
task that ordinarily necessitates a 125KB application. I find
that unconceivable. Just my personal preference.

I hope that answers your question.

 

[gian3000it]

Obviously, if the program is so unique, then running Wine to run
the program makes sense. But given that it's not likely to be
truly unique, there must be linux programs that do the same
basic thing, taking up more space but not as much as Wine.

That was exactly my premise when I posted my inquiry here.
The crux is *which* linux program...
A lot of windows users have had no experience with programs
such as popcorn, so inevitably some of the suggestions that
were given here were not, let's say, on target.

 

[3c273]

The issue seems to be the original poster likes a given program. The
exact size doesn't seem to be as important as that it's not too big.
And then, he seems to be stuck on finding a Linux program that
fits whatever he specifically likes about that Windows program.

Obviously, if the program is so unique, then running Wine to run
the program makes sense. But given that it's not likely to be
truly unique, there must be linux programs that do the same
basic thing, taking up more space but not as much as Wine.

Oh, I guess I was just feeling a little cranky. It just doesn't seem right
to dual boot back into Windows because you want to save 50MB on your hard
drive. I thought about writing a little POP3 client in Python that fit the
OPs requirements, but then there's the issue of an 80MB Python install )
Louis

 

[Johan Lindquist]

["Followup-To:" header set to comp.os.linux.misc.]
So anyway, it was like, 23:37 CEST Jul 07 2006, you know? Oh, and, yeah,
(e-mail address removed) was all like, "Dude,

3c273 wrote:

Well, since you asked...

For one, there is the pleasure of running a system that is optimized
around the applications you use, and without any unnecessary waste
in resources,

So, on the other hand, keeping win98 installed and /rebooting/ just
to run this one program that actually does run well using wine (as I
understand it) is a /necessary/ waste of resources?

to make it efficient, fast, and also capable of running on old
equipment you own, which would otherwise be useless... It's a beauty
to behold, being able to run a compact system with the latest open
source software, flawlessly and efficiently, on, say, your old
486DX66 machine. I don't know if you can understand that.

I'd like to know how many minutes, hours and days of your life you'd
be wasting by rebooting that old 486 over and over again just to run a
single program, and if it was worth saving 50 megs worth of hd space
that you would have instantly recouped by just scratching win98 (which
I seem to recall was no party running on a 486, btw) from it.

Second and most important, I happen to be one who runs his main
linux install on an unionfs file system (I like the security
benefits of it foremost).

And you were thinking /what/, security wise, when you come to the
conclusion that win98 was all in line with this idea?

Such a system is completely loaded in and run from RAM memory. Being
that the case, any MB I can spare adds to the system in terms of
speed and efficiency.

If it were me, I'd get an ISP who understands IMAP instead, then you
could use pretty much any email client you wanted without having to
download anything more than headers.

And lastly, it's just the concept of it. It is absurd to me that
I should waste 50MB of disk space in order to accomplish a task
that ordinarily necessitates a 125KB application. I find that
unconceivable. Just my personal preference.

Still not getting how rebooting to use win98 is less waste of your
time, or how keeping it installed is less waste of resources.

I hope that answers your question.

I, for one, am still pretty confused, but to each his or her own.