Police dogs die in Heat

His job, the fine and jail he should get. Will it happen?

Nope!!!

Different laws for people who practice the law and people on the other side of it.

No disrespect to the majority but i'm sure a lot of the people reading this understand what I mean
 
What a scumbag. Horsewhipping ain't good enough for him specially as he is a trained dog handler.

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What an animal, and thsi is a man that works with highly trained animals....They should make an example of him and jail him, but as TripleX said, one law for one lot and another law for the others....:mad::mad::mad:
 
Well I very much doubt if he done it on purpose, I daresay the handler is more upset than all you lot put together.

Oversight, stupidness, carelessness are the likely reasons for the dogs' deaths.

I did read he's going to be disciplined.

If, on the other hand, the officer responsible for their death really couldn't have cared less for his canine companions then line me up with the above mob mentality and a big club with lots of nails sticking out of it.

But I think that unlikely.

But, I'm only guessing, none of us know the exact circumstances and we likely never will.

But instead of letting your emotions run rampant try and sit back and imagine all possible scenarios.
 
I'm not rampant just disgusted that such a highly trianed animal handler like himself could even let such a thing slip from his mind.

Over a hundred degrees last week and he leaves dogs in the back of a car without any windows open!!

He's a frigging idiot and doesn't deserve the right to be given a second chance within his field
 
floppybootstomp said:
But instead of letting your emotions run rampant try and sit back and imagine all possible scenarios.
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I have been doing as you have said since I posted, maybe if I had done that first my post would be different. At the end of the day none of us know what was happening at the time, or what the circumstances were etc. Remember this is also a story reported by the media, so there could be a multitude of things left out of the bigger picture. If tht makes sense....?
 
Well we shall wait and see.

One thing we all know for certain.

Dogs + Heat + Closed car windows = Consequence
 
A police spokesman did confirm the incident took place and I find it extremely upsetting that any animals should suffer.

And emotions will run rampant when it comes to dogs, that's just the way most folks are.

I dare say the same outrage wouldn't have been felt had the dogs been a couple of pet rats, pigs or tortoises, for instance.

It's just that I read the comments above and I sometimes wonder how thin a veneer civilisation is.

Of course the fool deserves punishing for his act and it would probably be a good idea if he was no longer allowed to handle dogs.

But did he do it maliciously?

Did he purposely set out to murder two animals by asphyxiation and dehydration?

Did he become a dog handler because he hates dogs?

And of course we're all assuming he's 100% sane and 100% emotionally stable.

I'll agree the whole thing is upsetting and a damn shame and steps should be taken to ensure it doesn't happen again but expressions such as 'Horsewhipping ain't good enough for him' make me despair for the human race.
 
I don't believe for one minute he did it on purpose - Not at all!

I'm simply pointing out it should never have happened under any circumstance

Especially by a specialised police officer
 
floppybootstomp said:
but expressions such as 'Horsewhipping ain't good enough for him' make me despair for the human race.
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As do your views on tazers use and the MP's expenses scandal. As to "civilised" you only have to look at what lengths corporations will go to to realise that we are no different to the folk of old who waged war with swords and spears.

:p
 
Abarbarian said:
As do your views on tazers use and the MP's expenses scandal. As to "civilised" you only have to look at what lengths corporations will go to to realise that we are no different to the folk of old who waged war with swords and spears.

:p
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Is it a mud-slinging war you want? Shall I see how many of your POV's I can dredge up?

I will not, I'm not that low.

Everybody loves a cliche eh? 'Horsewhipping's not good enough for him' 'In my days' 'Disgraceful' 'I don't know what the world's coming to'

They probably said all those things in 1936 as well. Mob mentality and a fondness for lynch mobs eh?

Corporations will get away with whatever they can get away with and if you were a director you'd probably do exactly the same. Or you may not, in which case you'd be the rarity.

As for us being no different to the folk of old who waged war with swords and spears, they still are in some parts of the world.

Those at the top of the tree, so to speak, all possess bloody great Nuclear Arsenals and by doing so have prevented a major World War for the past sixty-odd years. Other sections of the world are still at it, just the same as they were in 0001 AD and before.

It's true that if you reduce any man to basics for long enough he will become savage, but I try, I try, to keep a balanced and a fair view without howling for blood at the slightest provocation.

Politicians have always been scumbags, my only surprise is that the populace was surprised when they were discovered on the take. Which is why I couldn't have cared less about it. Still, it gave lots of folk high blood pressure, gave them something to moan about and took their mind off the economy.

I have stated my view on Tazers. Right or wrong, if a copper arrests you, you go quietly, that's the law of the land, you and your brief can argue about it later. If some drunken oaf is lashing out at Police officers, I'd tazer him. As many times as it took to subdue him and thus make myself and my fellow officers safe.

And if that comes across as me being pro-police, I'm not. It's just that I don't see things as clear cut always and will view different things on their circumstances.

I don't think our wonderful upholders of law and order were particularly good at policing the recent protests at the economical summit in the City and I'm still smarting over Blair Peach's death, just to give a perspective.

I'm no liberal, no criminal, no bigot and I go my own way. But I do like to think I'm fair and unbiased. Like I said, although I'll never always get it right - I try.
 
floppybootstomp said:
Is it a mud-slinging war you want? Shall I see how many of your POV's I can dredge up?

I will not, I'm not that low.

Everybody loves a cliche eh? 'Horsewhipping's not good enough for him' 'In my days' 'Disgraceful' 'I don't know what the world's coming to'

They probably said all those things in 1936 as well. Mob mentality and a fondness for lynch mobs eh?

Corporations will get away with whatever they can get away with and if you were a director you'd probably do exactly the same. Or you may not, in which case you'd be the rarity.

As for us being no different to the folk of old who waged war with swords and spears, they still are in some parts of the world.

Those at the top of the tree, so to speak, all possess bloody great Nuclear Arsenals and by doing so have prevented a major World War for the past sixty-odd years. Other sections of the world are still at it, just the same as they were in 0001 AD and before.

It's true that if you reduce any man to basics for long enough he will become savage, but I try, I try, to keep a balanced and a fair view without howling for blood at the slightest provocation.

Politicians have always been scumbags, my only surprise is that the populace was surprised when they were discovered on the take. Which is why I couldn't have cared less about it. Still, it gave lots of folk high blood pressure, gave them something to moan about and took their mind off the economy.

I have stated my view on Tazers. Right or wrong, if a copper arrests you, you go quietly, that's the law of the land, you and your brief can argue about it later. If some drunken oaf is lashing out at Police officers, I'd tazer him. As many times as it took to subdue him and thus make myself and my fellow officers safe.

And if that comes across as me being pro-police, I'm not. It's just that I don't see things as clear cut always and will view different things on their circumstances.

I don't think our wonderful upholders of law and order were particularly good at policing the recent protests at the economical summit in the City and I'm still smarting over Blair Peach's death, just to give a perspective.

I'm no liberal, no criminal, no bigot and I go my own way. But I do like to think I'm fair and unbiased. Like I said, although I'll never always get it right - I try.
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Everyone sees the world from their own point of view thats the beauty of living. You despair of my view and solutions , I despair at yours , an sometimes we even agree on some points.

I have run three businesses and I hope that I gave value for money in an honest and decent way. If I made a mistake , which I did every now and again, I tried to put it right even if it cost me time and money, ie : no profit and extra time spent. That is probably why I am no longer in business.

I ain't here to pick fights.

I do however llike to put my point of view and I do like to tease folk with a gentle poke in the ribs every now and again.

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I don't despair of your views, I really don't, they're much the same as most peoples.

I do despair of myself sometimes, I very rarely seem to agree with the majority and my big mouth has earnt me a slap or two in my lifetime. But, that's me I suppose.

I do despair of people quoting whole posts though... ;)

What has running your own business to do with this issue? Forgive me if I'm daft but I don't see it.

I also will bend over backwards and lose money on occasion just to preserve my integrity and keep my customer happy, that's just the way I am (perhaps pride is all) and is probably the reason I ain't rich either and never will be.

I came close, but close is no cigar is it.

If you're not here to pick fights you sure enuff ruffled a few people's feathers in your time, lol ;)

If I'm poked, prodded, cajoled, wound up, whatever, I will react. This is because I am human :)

A gentle poke in the ribs can sometimes appear as a kick up the nutz in cold text :)

Anyhow, Mr Plod will not be whipped within an inch of his life, he'll probably be disciplined, put on compulsory unpaid leave for a month and then be quietly moved to a desk position for the rest of his career.

And spend the rest of his life in sorrow bitterly regretting the canine lives he managed to waste.

Well, that's what I think. Some folk probably have him down as a totally evil being who should be hung drawn and quartered and his head displayed on a pike at London Bridge.

Or in your case, perhaps, York Abbey :)
 
Mr. Plod will be totally devastated at what has happened. I know a couple of Plod dog handlers and they treat their dogs like family, sometimes better than family.

I can just imagine what happened. He will have nipped into the station for two minutes but then got distracted by something or someone and not realised how long the poor dogs were out there in the heat. He might have even been in conversation with a superior and felt he could not get away.

I'm not putting this forward as an excuse. He should have known that the dogs would suffer after just a few minutes and should have gone out to set them free no matter what the circumstances.

Yes, he should be diciplined, and will be, but he will never, ever, forget what has happened.
 
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