Please combine AntiSpyware and AntiVirus tools into one

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I hope Symantec and McAfee (and now Microsoft) combine their
Anti-Spyware and Anti-Virus tools into one product, having multiple
scanners is cumbersome and slows down the system!
 
I hope Symantec and McAfee (and now Microsoft) combine their
Anti-Spyware and Anti-Virus tools into one product, having multiple
scanners is cumbersome and slows down the system!

Use a modern browser, and don't click on attachments in emails and you
won't need any of those products.

And they will never combine them ...
 
From: <[email protected]>

| I hope Symantec and McAfee (and now Microsoft) combine their
| Anti-Spyware and Anti-Virus tools into one product, having multiple
| scanners is cumbersome and slows down the system!

I hope they don't !

Mcafee is great on viruses but their non-viral scanner sucks.
 
I hope Symantec and McAfee (and now Microsoft) combine their
Anti-Spyware and Anti-Virus tools into one product, having multiple
scanners is cumbersome and slows down the system!

Kaspersky Anti-virus has the ability to detect spyware. It's not
enabled by default though.

Nod32 Anti-virus version 2.5 (currently in beta testing) will include
spyware detection.

Just because McAfee & Norton don't do it doesn't mean it isn't being
done.


Cheers-

Jeff Setaro
jasetaro@SPAM_ME_NOT_mags.net
http://people.mags.net/jasetaro/
PGP Key IDs DH/DSS: 0x5D41429D RSA: 0x599D2A99 New RSA: 0xA19EBD34
 
From: "Jeffrey A. Setaro" <jasetaro@SPAM_ME_NOT_mags.net>

| On 27 Apr 2005 13:16:44 -0700, (e-mail address removed) wrote:
||
| Kaspersky Anti-virus has the ability to detect spyware. It's not
| enabled by default though.
|
| Nod32 Anti-virus version 2.5 (currently in beta testing) will include
| spyware detection.
|
| Just because McAfee & Norton don't do it doesn't mean it isn't being
| done.
|
| Cheers-
|
| Jeff Setaro
| jasetaro@SPAM_ME_NOT_mags.net
| http://people.mags.net/jasetaro/
| PGP Key IDs DH/DSS: 0x5D41429D RSA: 0x599D2A99 New RSA: 0xA19EBD34

McAfee can do it *if* you enable "Find poetentially unwanted programs".
But not to the degree that Ad-aware and SpyBot S&D will.
 
I use new mcafee antivirus & firewall.However i do feel the need to use
Ad-aware and SpyBot as well.As some spyware varients fail to pick up
 
From: "Jeffrey A. Setaro" <jasetaro@SPAM_ME_NOT_mags.net>

| On 27 Apr 2005 13:16:44 -0700, (e-mail address removed) wrote:
|
|
| Kaspersky Anti-virus has the ability to detect spyware. It's not
| enabled by default though.
|
| Nod32 Anti-virus version 2.5 (currently in beta testing) will include
| spyware detection.
|
| Just because McAfee & Norton don't do it doesn't mean it isn't being
| done.
McAfee can do it *if* you enable "Find poetentially unwanted programs".
Indeed.

But not to the degree that Ad-aware and SpyBot S&D will.

How do you know? How do we know how KAV abd McAfee fare nowdays in
this regard? Where are the comparatives?

Be interesting to hear at least some anecdotal evidence from those who
are paid to remove malware from machines. Are they now finding that
KAV and/or McAfee find most all of the "controversialware" leaving
practically nothing left for the spyware/adware scanners to find
afterward? Or is the situation still as you suggest?

Art

http://home.epix.net/~artnpeg
 
From: <[email protected]>

| On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 23:00:23 GMT, "David H. Lipman"
| said:
|> On 27 Apr 2005 13:16:44 -0700, (e-mail address removed) wrote:
|>
|>
|> Kaspersky Anti-virus has the ability to detect spyware. It's not
|> enabled by default though.
|>
|> Nod32 Anti-virus version 2.5 (currently in beta testing) will include
|> spyware detection.
|>
|> Just because McAfee & Norton don't do it doesn't mean it isn't being
|> done. |
|
| Indeed.
||
| How do you know? How do we know how KAV abd McAfee fare nowdays in
| this regard? Where are the comparatives?
|
| Be interesting to hear at least some anecdotal evidence from those who
| are paid to remove malware from machines. Are they now finding that
| KAV and/or McAfee find most all of the "controversialware" leaving
| practically nothing left for the spyware/adware scanners to find
| afterward? Or is the situation still as you suggest?
|
| Art
|
| http://home.epix.net/~artnpeg

Art:

I use the McAfee Command Line Scanner (MCLS) a lot.
{ I also have created a program that can be used to FTP the McAfee SuperDAT, extract the
MCLS, extract the DAT files, run a scan which creates a HTML log file and at the end of the
scan will then display the log file in FireFox (or IE). This is similar, but more advanced
than your Sys-Up utility for Trend Sysclean. }

Using a command line such as...
SCAN.EXE /adl /unzip /WINMEM /sub /analyze /PANALYZE /STREAMS /clean /all /del /PROGRAM
/mime /HTML "c:\McAfee\ScanReport.HTML"

"scan /program" is equivalent to checking "Find potentially unwanted programs" in the GUI.
It will find many forms of malware which includes adware such as; Gator, 180Solutions,
BetterInternet, etc...

However, an execution of Ad-awarre SE after the completion of the MCLS will find
*many* more files and objects that McAfee left behind.

I posted a ZIP file in; alt.binaries.comp.virus
Title; McAfee Scan Logs
That has two sample HTML log files enclosed
 
On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 03:15:42 GMT, "David H. Lipman"

[Big Snip]
"scan /program" is equivalent to checking "Find potentially unwanted programs" in the GUI.
It will find many forms of malware which includes adware such as; Gator, 180Solutions,
BetterInternet, etc...

However, an execution of Ad-awarre SE after the completion of the MCLS will find
*many* more files and objects that McAfee left behind.

What type(s) of files? Are we talking about programmatic files or
cookies which are simple text files?

[Snip]


Cheers-

Jeff Setaro
jasetaro@SPAM_ME_NOT_mags.net
http://people.mags.net/jasetaro/
PGP Key IDs DH/DSS: 0x5D41429D RSA: 0x599D2A99 New RSA: 0xA19EBD34
 
From: <[email protected]>

| On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 23:00:23 GMT, "David H. Lipman"

|
| Indeed.
|
|
| How do you know? How do we know how KAV abd McAfee fare nowdays in
| this regard? Where are the comparatives?
|
| Be interesting to hear at least some anecdotal evidence from those who
| are paid to remove malware from machines. Are they now finding that
| KAV and/or McAfee find most all of the "controversialware" leaving
| practically nothing left for the spyware/adware scanners to find
| afterward? Or is the situation still as you suggest?
|
| Art
|
| http://home.epix.net/~artnpeg

Art:

I use the McAfee Command Line Scanner (MCLS) a lot.
{ I also have created a program that can be used to FTP the McAfee SuperDAT, extract the
MCLS, extract the DAT files, run a scan which creates a HTML log file and at the end of the
scan will then display the log file in FireFox (or IE). This is similar, but more advanced
than your Sys-Up utility for Trend Sysclean. }

Using a command line such as...
SCAN.EXE /adl /unzip /WINMEM /sub /analyze /PANALYZE /STREAMS /clean /all /del /PROGRAM
/mime /HTML "c:\McAfee\ScanReport.HTML"

"scan /program" is equivalent to checking "Find potentially unwanted programs" in the GUI.
It will find many forms of malware which includes adware such as; Gator, 180Solutions,
BetterInternet, etc...

However, an execution of Ad-awarre SE after the completion of the MCLS will find
*many* more files and objects that McAfee left behind.

Ever tried KAVDOS32 with the extra defs? I suspect it's far better
than McAfee.

Art

http://home.epix.net/~artnpeg
 
From: "Jeffrey A. Setaro" <jasetaro@SPAM_ME_NOT_mags.net>

| On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 03:15:42 GMT, "David H. Lipman"
|
| [Big Snip]
|| What type(s) of files? Are we talking about programmatic files or
| cookies which are simple text files?
|
| [Snip]
|
| Cheers-
|
| Jeff Setaro
| jasetaro@SPAM_ME_NOT_mags.net
| http://people.mags.net/jasetaro/
| PGP Key IDs DH/DSS: 0x5D41429D RSA: 0x599D2A99 New RSA: 0xA19EBD34

Hi Jeff:

I don't consider cookies a threat so they don't play a part in the discussion at all. I am
talking about executables.

BTW: If you remember back in Dec or so of 2003 I asked your advice on a dSLR. I got the
Digital Rebel 300D with a 18~55mm Canon lens and a 75~300mm Quantaray lens. Thanx for the
advice you provided me !
 
From: "Jeffrey A. Setaro" <jasetaro@SPAM_ME_NOT_mags.net>

| On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 03:15:42 GMT, "David H. Lipman"
|
| [Big Snip]
|| What type(s) of files? Are we talking about programmatic files or
| cookies which are simple text files?
|
| [Snip]
|
| Cheers-
|
| Jeff Setaro
| jasetaro@SPAM_ME_NOT_mags.net
| http://people.mags.net/jasetaro/
| PGP Key IDs DH/DSS: 0x5D41429D RSA: 0x599D2A99 New RSA: 0xA19EBD34

Hi Jeff:

I don't consider cookies a threat so they don't play a part in the discussion at all. I am
talking about executables.

Hmm... OK... I haven't played with McAfee in quite a while so I'll
take you word for it.
BTW: If you remember back in Dec or so of 2003 I asked your advice on a dSLR. I got the
Digital Rebel 300D with a 18~55mm Canon lens and a 75~300mm Quantaray lens. Thanx for the
advice you provided me !

Your welcome... I just picked up a Nikon D2x... I still think 35mm is
better than digital but there isn't a decent lab left around here and
I'm to lazy to do my own processing so I'm using the D2x.


Cheers-

Jeff Setaro
jasetaro@SPAM_ME_NOT_mags.net
http://people.mags.net/jasetaro/
PGP Key IDs DH/DSS: 0x5D41429D RSA: 0x599D2A99 New RSA: 0xA19EBD34
 
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