Pixma mp510

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Gerardus

Any experience with this printer? Quality? Problems?
I plan to buy one here in the Netherlands. It is listed as a brandnew type.
The pricing is whatI had in mind for an all-in-one for private use.
 
I do not like multi-function printers because when you loose one of the
functions you loose the purpose of the machine. Buying a separate Epson
scanner and a Canon IP4300 gives you the best of both breeds.

That said there are some exceptions:

If space is an absolute must.
You need an Automatic Document Feeder (ADF) and those are expensive.

The machine you are considering does not have one.

The newly released IP4300 for under $100 US is basically a re badged
IP5200 as far as the specifications go. And be sure not to mess it up
by using generic, relabeled, fadable and cloggable ink.
 
Thx for the quick answer.
For my private use I need an option to easily copy A4 size forms a few times
a day. That is why I thought about the 510. It can do copying standalone.
I DO have a simple scanner already, but when wanting to copy, I am not sure
how easy that works whit a separate scanner? At the moment I scan my forms
and then try to print them on my old hp5L laserjet. This is giving me a lot
of trouble from the printer side. And I do not want to have that kind of
trouble again. I suppose my troubles comes from the hp not having enough
memory. Is there a chance I might get similar problems with the ip4300 you
recommend?
 
Gerardus said:
Any experience with this printer? Quality? Problems?
I plan to buy one here in the Netherlands. It is listed as a brandnew type.
The pricing is whatI had in mind for an all-in-one for private use.

I have NO direct experence with this model... it's too new.

I do have experence with the ip3000... which shares the same head
specifications.

This model, from what I see, is missing the dye black, and current
canon models do print color at a higher solution. Anytime you select
something other than photo paper it will use three colors to make
black. This is a problem with matte paper, so if you use matte paper
select "plain paper' and it will use the pigmented black.

Also, it's a downgrade from the mp500 in terms of head, and print
quality. But... you do get some speed and the ip3000 was a pretty good
photo printer.

Also, CD printing is not an option on this model.

It lists for $149.99 in the US... which is $50 more than the base model
ip4300, which is in all fairness a better printer. But text mode is no
different on the ip3000 vs the ip4200, and you only get more nozzles on
the more spendy all in one models. For the price, if your application
is mixed text and graphics on plain paper, i'd say buy it. If you are
doing photo paper you may consider spending more, or at least seeing
the print quality for your self before making that choice.

You may also consider the older model mp750 or mp780. I own the mp760,
without the document feeder, and it's still in use. These models,
while they seem to start at about $200 euros, do offer something more
than the mp510

1. CD printing
2. Extra dye black (useful for photos and matte paper)
3. Aftermarket ink

The ink is also cheaper for these models, but there is an extra tank in
these models as well. I'd say if your only using plain paper, buy the
mp510. If you're doing photos, there would be a minor improvement with
the mp750, but if you use aftermarket ink, those extra euros = big
savings in the long term.
 
Gerardus said:
Thx for the quick answer.
For my private use I need an option to easily copy A4 size forms a few times
a day. That is why I thought about the 510. It can do copying standalone.
I DO have a simple scanner already, but when wanting to copy, I am not sure
how easy that works whit a separate scanner?

I have an Epson 4180 Scanner and a Canon IP4000 printer. The scanner
software has a copy function. I can invoke it by either pressing a
button on the scanner or by invoking the scanner software. Then I just
click a button on the computer after putting my document on the scanner
bed. After the scan I can preview it and if it looks ok just press the
print button. It is that simple. Since you already have a scanner all
you need is to spend about $80.00 (usually on sale someplace or with a
rebate) and buy a Canon IP4300. It is a great printer and it likes
Canon ink. The ink is not cheap but you get what you pay for and it is
more economical then HP or Epson. I have never had any trouble with the
Pixma printer in the 2 years I owned it and have always used Canon ink.

The printer had 2 paper feeds and a handy duplex feature (prints both
sides automatically) and the printer software is adequate and easy to
use. The photos that it prints are fantastic lab quality.
At the moment I scan my forms
and then try to print them on my old hp5L laserjet. This is giving me a lot
of trouble from the printer side. And I do not want to have that kind of
trouble again. I suppose my troubles comes from the hp not having enough
memory. Is there a chance I might get similar problems with the ip4300 you
recommend?

If your scanner software supports it you should not have any trouble
scanning to a Canon IP4300. You are still better off if you have to
replace your scanner. Currently the Epson 4180 replacement is the best
way to go. It also scans film, prints, and slides really well.
 
Gerardus said:
I suppose my troubles comes from the hp not having enough
memory. Is there a chance I might get similar problems with the ip4300 you
recommend?

Inkjets don't require memory like lasers do... though in the 21st
century, there are tons of winlasers that don't require memory either.


In terms of cost, odds are you'd enjoy lower cost per page on the HP.
Canon is pretty low, but it's no laser and those color tanks do get
used even if you don't use them.

Measekite is a neighborhood troll... he doesn't actually offer advice.
He's never met these models.

I said this in a seperate responce, but it's worth saying agian... if
you are using plain paper, there is no real advantage to the ip4300
except finner dots for the color. If you are using plain paper, there
is an advantage to the mp510, no extra dye black.

It's your choice really

90 Euros... ip4300 or ip5200 for slightly less on the surplus market.
130 Euros or so... no dye black... based on an older model canon
(ip3000) but same text resolution. Not so good in the color
department, but not all that bad.

I use the copy feature of the mp760 on a regular basis... it's handy
and requires no pc to use. While I would say there is a cost advantage
in using your HP laser for this application, there is the ease of use
feature of a all in one.
 
Hmmm,

After reading the excellent comments of measekite and zakezuke, I am in
doubt about the 510. Maybe i should go for the 4300.
What is under the top cover of this 4300? Do I need to access that top
often? Otherwise I could consider making a shelf close over the printer to
place my scanner on it? Place is a small problem, but I think this should
not push me to the 510.
 
Gerardus said:
Thx for the quick answer.
For my private use I need an option to easily copy A4 size forms a few times
a day. That is why I thought about the 510. It can do copying standalone.
I DO have a simple scanner already, but when wanting to copy, I am not sure
how easy that works whit a separate scanner? At the moment I scan my forms
and then try to print them on my old hp5L laserjet. This is giving me a lot
of trouble from the printer side. And I do not want to have that kind of
trouble again. I suppose my troubles comes from the hp not having enough
memory. Is there a chance I might get similar problems with the ip4300 you
recommend?
I used to use the HP5l in the same way you are trying to.
Although there is little memory, you can still have the PC process the page.

Step 2 on this link shows the setting you need.

http://vlaurie.com/computers2/Articles/printertips.htm

you could also set the scan settings to something a little demanding,
size wise. Take the time to tinker and save a few bucks.

The 5l is definitely a sturdy economical unit. If all you need is B&W
printing, you really cant go wrong. I do recommend spending the money
for a good replacement toner cartridge when the time comes. (I really
screwed mine up with a discount one). I got the chance to replace the
fuser unit for free and it is still up and running at my ex's house.
 
Gerardus said:
Hmmm,

After reading the excellent comments of measekite and zakezuke, I am in
doubt about the 510. Maybe i should go for the 4300.
What is under the top cover of this 4300? Do I need to access that top
often? Otherwise I could consider making a shelf close over the printer to
place my scanner on it? Place is a small problem, but I think this should
not push me to the 510.

I've only met the ip4300 once. You're talking a new printer. Oddly
enough you can get the ip5300 at least in Germany and England for less
than a new ip4300. Same specs, except the ip5200 weighs more and sold
for more but is now on closeout. Why spend more? Note i'm going from
the specs.. never used the ip4300.

The top cover holds the inks, and there is a rear paper feed as well.
Opening it depends on your use. 500pages of black there and abouts,
though forums... forums can be more than 5% yield. But think a black
refill after you reload paper 2 or three times.

But... for your application... i'm happy as a lark with the mp760. I
do photos, cds, and labels on the ip5200. I also use the mp760 for
this as well when i'm feeling lazy.

While I would agree for best photo quality, sure get your self a good
epson scanner and a good printer. I only own the Epson 1640S for this
(slow but good). But for forms, receites, hard core business stuff, I
use the mp760, grey scale, 150dpi. I also use the copy function. It's
fast, and good enough. Actually it's good enough for photos, but I
prefer epson's color correction feature.

But given your application, make a copy, to plain paper.... why not the
mp510? Unless you need better photos, dye black on matte paper, cd
printing... or a better scanner, there is no reason not to buy it.
Well, unless you want to go with the older model mp750, which will cost
even more but use aftermarket ink, which will save you bucks in the
long term. But the mp510 has the two trays, fine for envelopes and
plain paper, though you have the HP laser to do things as well.

Don't be scared into paying more when you don't need it. All in ones
are nice, they are a time saver. They do much in minimal desk space.
Unless you need the best scanner and the best printer, they are great.


What's not great is sharing a scanner, a a2 printer, and two 20 inch
monitors on the same desk, and having to move the a4 printer under the
desk.
 
measekite said:
...buy a Canon IP4300. It is a great printer and it likes Canon ink.



A Canon printer that LIKES Canon ink?

As opposed to what, HP ink? Lexmark ink? Tomato juice? Olive oil?????
 
Gerardus said:
Any experience with this printer? Quality? Problems?
I plan to buy one here in the Netherlands. It is listed as a brandnew
type. The pricing is whatI had in mind for an all-in-one for private use.
Gerardus - I see you have met our very own newsgoup troll, Measekite. You
asked about a printer and he threw in his time-worn view on only using OEM
Canon inks. He has no experience with aftermarket inks but keeps up his
"true-believer" rant against any and all aftermarket inks. If you are so
inclined to refill your own carts it is doable with the new Canon printers
and there are a few very good inks and vendors out there from whom you can
buy them. Since the new canon ink carts have a computer chip on them that
no one has been able to thwart yet there are no aftermarket prefilled carts
with chips attached. There are people who are successfully refilling the
OEM carts and enjoying printing at a fraction of the cost of the OEM inks.
 
I would leave yourself extra room. I load paper in the bottom cassette
tray and use the top for photo paper or cards or any type of media that
will not bend well. The auto sheet feeder on top is good for all odd
sized media.
 
Branwynn said:
A Canon printer that LIKES Canon ink?

As opposed to what, HP ink? Lexmark ink? Tomato juice? Olive oil?????

as opposed to relabeled generic printer clogging fadable no name pseudo
ink. DUH
 
Hi!
I am not sure how easy that works whit a separate scanner?

It should work fine. Most decent scanners do include a "one touch" copy
utility.

Multifunction devices can be faster (since some have onboard processors and
memory) and you usually don't have to turn the computer on to use them for
things like copying and faxing.
At the moment I scan my forms and then try to print them on my
old hp5L laserjet. This is giving me a lot of trouble from the printer
side.
I suppose my troubles comes from the hp not having enough
memory.

This is very likely to be the problem. A laser printer has to "think" in
terms of a whole page before it can print anything. Asking it to process a
large graphical image (which may have to sent to the printer as a bitmap
image, instead of a series of control commands that will represent the print
job when it is complete) could very possibly overwhelm the internal memory.
Is there a chance I might get similar problems with the ip4300 you
recommend?

Not usually. Inkjet style printers work on a "line by line" basis and
usually do not commit a whole page worth of printing to memory.

William
 
Gerardus - I see you have met our very own newsgoup troll, Measekite. You
asked about a printer and he threw in his time-worn view on only using OEM
Canon inks. He has no experience with aftermarket inks but keeps up his
"true-believer" rant against any and all aftermarket inks. If you are so
inclined to refill your own carts it is doable with the new Canon printers
and there are a few very good inks and vendors out there from whom you can
buy them. Since the new canon ink carts have a computer chip on them that
no one has been able to thwart yet there are no aftermarket prefilled carts
with chips attached. There are people who are successfully refilling the
OEM carts and enjoying printing at a fraction of the cost of the OEM inks.
Burt - can you give me more info on how these OEM carts with the chips
can be successfully refilled? I have a friend interested in buying
their iP6600D but only if the cartrs can be routinely refilled.

Olin
 
Olin K. McDaniel said:
Burt - can you give me more info on how these OEM carts with the chips
can be successfully refilled? I have a friend interested in buying
their iP6600D but only if the cartrs can be routinely refilled.

Olin

You refill them exactly the same way that you would the older bci-6 and
bci-3ebk carts. There is lots of info on refilling, resealing the fill
holes, etc, on the nifty-stuff forum that you should read. Lots of tips on
making the refilling process easier. The problem you run into with the
newest canon printers when refilling is that the chip on the cart, once used
until it triggers the empty warning, continues to warn that the cart is
empty, even after it is refilled. You then get "nagged" by the printer
until you turn off the nag screens. You then have to monitor the ink levels
visually so you don't damage the printhead. Very easy to monitor ink levels
as the carts are transparent and can all be accessed and viewed in less than
a minute. There are a few vendors that have ink especially for these
printers. MIS and hobbicolors are two that I am aware of.
 
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