Pirated Vista RTM available for download ?

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Won't be good for long, the new Software Protection Platform ensures that,
you have to reactivate software every 60 days - retail, 180 days for Volume
License versions.
 
What a great way to make your day frustrating... I can see it now, you
download, install and things just don't 'work' correctly...

You find out that someone replaced a .exe or .dll in the ISO and it phones
home to their website awaiting a command (think botnet)

Pass on this folks... I see it about on the same as buying a lit stick of
dynamite...
 
Well thats a good point But however MSFT has suposedly built anti tampering
measures into Vista so if any file if found to be tampered with SPP
immediatly kicks in

In which case if there is malware built in then it may not even get the
chance to work or for that matter their download probably will not work
either

It's probably something best left alone
 
well, you don't really know about www.pconline.com.cn
it's one of China's most popular IT website and sponsored by software
company such as Symantec, Microsoft, Kingsoft...

The discussion groups under this website are backup by editors from
www.pconline.com.cn

When an editor review a Sponsor's product, say, Windows XP, at somewhere in
the article, he would put a comment something like,
"It's expensive but don't forget to browse our discussion groups for further
information :) " then readers should know that it's already available for
download...

JUST NOW, the moderator and editors of www.pconline.com.cn confirmed that
the download is NOT a RTM Vista but a "WDK RTM 6000 16386" (I don't really
know what it is), so they will not Highlight the thread and NOT going to
forward it to other Chinese website nationwide.

I will keep you update on this matter....

PS.
PC users in China only concern about the release date of Simplified Chinese
Windows Vista Volume Licensing Edition.
Will the Shanghai City Government purchase the Vista VL Edition ?

shhhh.... tell you a secret, some staff members in Microsoft (China)
actually.... :))))
 
Something looks kinda fishy here:

"additionally comes with podcast creation support, a game performance
tweaker (WinSAT), DVD ripping capabilities, and special online services for
downloadable media, as well as additional customer service options."

Podcast Creation? DVD ripping? "Special" online services?

Ya know, I am looking at the vista Website right now, and I don't see any of
that. Me thinks there may be some "unauthorized additions?" and if so, what
else was added? A worm? A trojan? Maybe a key tracker?

yeah, I trust that as much as I would trust a pit bull to watch over a steak.
 
Well I did read on Paul T's website quite a while ago an article that
stated that Vista Rtm would have DVD ripping capabilities

However it is yet to be seen what they mean by DVD ripping capabilities if
it simply means an added abilty to copy a DVD to the HDD with the css and
rca protection intact then it's not really ripping

Ripping to me means the ability to strip the copy protection with a further
ability to burn it back to a blank DVD so it plays without regional encoding
and without css and rca copy protection anything short of that isn't really
ripping

To have the ability to copy a DVD to your Hdd would be a nice feature and it
has been stated that Vista may have that ability but I'm sure it would be a
far cry from actual Ripping
 
it's a spoof numbskulls:

license key :
GLAD2-SEEUH-AVEAS-ENSEO-FHUMR
Value=YFKBB-PQJJV-G996G-VWGXY-2V3X8
 
Good to see someone is awake Bob.


bob_looney said:
it's a spoof numbskulls:

license key :
GLAD2-SEEUH-AVEAS-ENSEO-FHUMR
Value=YFKBB-PQJJV-G996G-VWGXY-2V3X8
Click to expand...
 
Andre said:
Won't be good for long, the new Software Protection Platform ensures that,
you have to reactivate software every 60 days - retail, 180 days for Volume
License versions.
Click to expand...

You're kidding, right?

Alias
 
Dont live in a delusional world.

Vista will be the most pirated os Microsoft ever had, because of is cost...

even if that means that they will have to back engineer half the os

If they wanted to cut down the pirating, they should had lowered the price
not make it higher.
 
Just some thoughts on Vista and the pirate-torrent-desaster-thing that ever
existed when software gets released.

Please read carefully to see my standpoint, before you try to turn my words
in the wrong directions - thank you!

what is this chinese link to the edonkey-file ?

That is not the Vista Operating System, it is a WindowsDriver-Development
Kit which is real rtm and is indeed for the Vista rtm build

Vista Retails buildnumber will be likely the same build-tag ( 6000.16386
compiled on 1st November ) , but definately it hasn't appeared anywhere on
the web for downloading.

What has leaked yet of the rtm ( by some geeky russians that had their hands
on a preview build and couldn't resist to steal some parts ? :

some dozens wallpapers
a incomplete new iconset
the Sidebar.exe plus new gadgets and the whole explorer.exe with
file-properties that refer to build 6000.16384
the startup sound and the bitmap-data of explorer.exe and control.exe ( i.e
the wallpapers inside the controlpanel ) and the imageres.dll that has all
the new icon-links in it.

With these resources that can be found all over the net it is manually
possible to mockup any vista-build to look like what the rtm is to be
expected to look like, that's all.

Basically you only need the wallpapers and sounds, icons and have a
"rtm-clone", as far as I know the bootscreen wont change ( i.e. the green
loading-bar will stay in the final ), but who cares about stuff like that--

I do not support or encourage piracy when it comes to retail-software, don't
get me wrong.

I have preordered my Vista HomePremium a few days ago and I look forward to
the shipping. also I am running genuine XP pro on my laptop and genuine XP
MCE on my desktop, no question - I pay for my OS. I always did.

beta and RC Software is a bit different and I measure this not the same :

To download a beta via alternate channels is quite ok I think, becuase it is
timebombed anyway and unstable, so you don't really want to run a beta
allday, even if you could.

When you look in my mailer-header you will see that i am running build 5840
of vista rtmbranch, and where have i found this ? right. Like I said, this
is no matter to me because it is a beta, regardless what the buildstring
says. And as soon as I have my final Vista my HDD gets formated anyway to
set up all clean. So if I run this the next two months, does anyone really
care ? it is just for me - to have the latest vista-rtm near OS here running
to check compatibilit and so, If I get in trouble with this build or have
bugs, sure - there's nobody that I can ask for support - that is the risk
when running a "leaked" build.

Also it runs as eval for 30 days if it is not being doctored on.So again,
this is no piracy at all.I could even have found the dvd on my doorstep ;)

Anyway, when the first vista-retail dvd is in the hands of a private user it
will take only hours until it is uploaded to a torrent-tracker, a few days
later it will be available in any language and edition one can think of -
that is how the web works today.
Whenever a game is released the pirates have their hands on it, for
example - the sims 2 were available on the net together with a working crack
before anybody could buy the boxes.

Vista will be copied like hell that is sure and of course they will attempt
to break and crack it.XP was hacked and available via XDCC on irc before it
went retail. And now don't say "SPP,WGA and WPA.." - I can tell you that
already methods exist on how cracking SPP is going to be managed and even
Activation-tricking/hacking of the RCs and Pre-rtms is already a fact. I
have seen it in action, even if you all now will say it is not possible - it
is, ms will learn that very soon and will rethink the SPP thing. ( like i
said I do not welcome it, but I like to see what software-protection is
propaganda and what is really unbreakable )

Again, the russians are really clever guys, and so are the chinese and all
countries that have tech-freaks but have simply no money to afford MS
Windows and because they find a crippled starter-edition very sarcastic they
will take the code and will reverse engineer like hell.

They collect all CTP-Build ever released and go through every bit of the
code if necessary. Don't just see these people as some criminal freaks, they
are clever enough and could very well work for MS in their buildlabs as paid
engineers to develop real-working protections.


back again to the leaks of Vista

this pieces of 6000 are floating the net, but no complete build until this
minute. All downloads claiming to be build 6000 are fake or renamed older
builds, or the said driverkit.

Yes, there are people out to make just fun and rename huge files to
something else. A filename vista.6000.rtm_goldmaster_en_us.x86.iso could
very well be unpacked a homo-porn or the complete ElvisPresley-LP
collection, just renamed to fool people.

Anyway like I said - vista_rtm will very very soon be on every pc but like
Andre da Costa has said :

it will function as a Evaluation Demo, that is what MS is supporting.
because as in the rtm build still the setup-option with no key will exists
as far as I see it by now ( i have seen the setup.cfg file for build
6000.16384 which has the default ProductKey "built in", if the user enter no
Key ).

So, SPP must then show IF it is working.

and it will be a race between pirates and MS .Who wins ? Time will tell.

I have my Vista Premium retail shipped to me next year and will upgrade my
XP MediaCenter to it and will have no needs of any "workarounds", don't
worry.
And I wont tell anybody how to do it but will encourage anyone to buy vista.

But as I said - most users will want to have it free, as they were used to
from Win 3.11 on by just "lending the floppies"..

SO - Please don't entitle me a Pirate or whatever - I am only a realistic
person . So should all of you see this - monitor the net and make up your
minds and do not buy all propaganda, just get it into your mind that
everything gets pirated, yes. And if someone tell you 2how stupid you are to
have paid for that" , well, yes.

Sometimes I feel stupid, but I like to have ease on my mind, that's more
worth than money I think.and my XP CoAs sticked to my PCs/Laptops make me a
bit proud, because that is what the Pirates don't have - they have no
Packages,no support-hotlines,no hologram-discs and no coas - and in the case
of MCE even no Remote-control - becuase hardware cannot be downloaded ;)

SBJ
 
MicroFox said:
Dont live in a delusional world.

Vista will be the most pirated os Microsoft ever had, because of is cost...

even if that means that they will have to back engineer half the os

If they wanted to cut down the pirating, they should had lowered the price
not make it higher.
Click to expand...

Sorta shoots down the BS that MS spreads that cutting down piracy will
lower prices.

Alias
 
Were you vaccinated with a Gramaphone needle?.


Sascha Benjamin Jazbec said:
Just some thoughts on Vista and the pirate-torrent-desaster-thing that
ever existed when software gets released.

Please read carefully to see my standpoint, before you try to turn my
words in the wrong directions - thank you!

what is this chinese link to the edonkey-file ?

That is not the Vista Operating System, it is a WindowsDriver-Development
Kit which is real rtm and is indeed for the Vista rtm build

Vista Retails buildnumber will be likely the same build-tag ( 6000.16386
compiled on 1st November ) , but definately it hasn't appeared anywhere on
the web for downloading.

What has leaked yet of the rtm ( by some geeky russians that had their
hands on a preview build and couldn't resist to steal some parts ? :

some dozens wallpapers
a incomplete new iconset
the Sidebar.exe plus new gadgets and the whole explorer.exe with
file-properties that refer to build 6000.16384
the startup sound and the bitmap-data of explorer.exe and control.exe (
i.e the wallpapers inside the controlpanel ) and the imageres.dll that
has all the new icon-links in it.

With these resources that can be found all over the net it is manually
possible to mockup any vista-build to look like what the rtm is to be
expected to look like, that's all.

Basically you only need the wallpapers and sounds, icons and have a
"rtm-clone", as far as I know the bootscreen wont change ( i.e. the green
loading-bar will stay in the final ), but who cares about stuff like
that--

I do not support or encourage piracy when it comes to retail-software,
don't get me wrong.

I have preordered my Vista HomePremium a few days ago and I look forward
to the shipping. also I am running genuine XP pro on my laptop and genuine
XP MCE on my desktop, no question - I pay for my OS. I always did.

beta and RC Software is a bit different and I measure this not the same :

To download a beta via alternate channels is quite ok I think, becuase it
is timebombed anyway and unstable, so you don't really want to run a beta
allday, even if you could.

When you look in my mailer-header you will see that i am running build
5840 of vista rtmbranch, and where have i found this ? right. Like I said,
this is no matter to me because it is a beta, regardless what the
buildstring says. And as soon as I have my final Vista my HDD gets
formated anyway to set up all clean. So if I run this the next two months,
does anyone really care ? it is just for me - to have the latest vista-rtm
near OS here running to check compatibilit and so, If I get in trouble
with this build or have bugs, sure - there's nobody that I can ask for
support - that is the risk when running a "leaked" build.

Also it runs as eval for 30 days if it is not being doctored on.So again,
this is no piracy at all.I could even have found the dvd on my doorstep ;)

Anyway, when the first vista-retail dvd is in the hands of a private user
it will take only hours until it is uploaded to a torrent-tracker, a few
days later it will be available in any language and edition one can think
of - that is how the web works today.
Whenever a game is released the pirates have their hands on it, for
example - the sims 2 were available on the net together with a working
crack before anybody could buy the boxes.

Vista will be copied like hell that is sure and of course they will
attempt to break and crack it.XP was hacked and available via XDCC on irc
before it went retail. And now don't say "SPP,WGA and WPA.." - I can tell
you that already methods exist on how cracking SPP is going to be managed
and even Activation-tricking/hacking of the RCs and Pre-rtms is already a
fact. I have seen it in action, even if you all now will say it is not
possible - it is, ms will learn that very soon and will rethink the SPP
thing. ( like i said I do not welcome it, but I like to see what
software-protection is propaganda and what is really unbreakable )

Again, the russians are really clever guys, and so are the chinese and all
countries that have tech-freaks but have simply no money to afford MS
Windows and because they find a crippled starter-edition very sarcastic
they will take the code and will reverse engineer like hell.

They collect all CTP-Build ever released and go through every bit of the
code if necessary. Don't just see these people as some criminal freaks,
they are clever enough and could very well work for MS in their buildlabs
as paid engineers to develop real-working protections.


back again to the leaks of Vista

this pieces of 6000 are floating the net, but no complete build until this
minute. All downloads claiming to be build 6000 are fake or renamed older
builds, or the said driverkit.

Yes, there are people out to make just fun and rename huge files to
something else. A filename vista.6000.rtm_goldmaster_en_us.x86.iso could
very well be unpacked a homo-porn or the complete ElvisPresley-LP
collection, just renamed to fool people.

Anyway like I said - vista_rtm will very very soon be on every pc but like
Andre da Costa has said :

it will function as a Evaluation Demo, that is what MS is supporting.
because as in the rtm build still the setup-option with no key will
exists as far as I see it by now ( i have seen the setup.cfg file for
build 6000.16384 which has the default ProductKey "built in", if the user
enter no Key ).

So, SPP must then show IF it is working.

and it will be a race between pirates and MS .Who wins ? Time will tell.

I have my Vista Premium retail shipped to me next year and will upgrade my
XP MediaCenter to it and will have no needs of any "workarounds", don't
worry.
And I wont tell anybody how to do it but will encourage anyone to buy
vista.

But as I said - most users will want to have it free, as they were used to
from Win 3.11 on by just "lending the floppies"..

SO - Please don't entitle me a Pirate or whatever - I am only a realistic
person . So should all of you see this - monitor the net and make up your
minds and do not buy all propaganda, just get it into your mind that
everything gets pirated, yes. And if someone tell you 2how stupid you are
to have paid for that" , well, yes.

Sometimes I feel stupid, but I like to have ease on my mind, that's more
worth than money I think.and my XP CoAs sticked to my PCs/Laptops make me
a bit proud, because that is what the Pirates don't have - they have no
Packages,no support-hotlines,no hologram-discs and no coas - and in the
case of MCE even no Remote-control - becuase hardware cannot be downloaded
;)

SBJ
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