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Rick,

I'm still using Windows 98SE and I'm very happy with it. I had the
hard drive replaced 2 years ago, but that's been the only major
problem.

I've been reading this forum for a couple of months now and have
noticed the quantity of problems have increased quite a bit.

I back up important files regularly to Iomega, but fear one of these
days this system will come crashing down.

I'd like to replace my computer with a really good one (no concern for
cost), but fear a never ending battle with a VISTA OS. I also do not
like the prospect of deleting all the junk pre installed programs that
usually comes with a new computer.

I would appreciate your advise.

Should I wait 6 months or a year until they clean up VISTA or should I
take the plunge now.

Once again, I'm happy with 98 but fear an irretrievable collapse.

thank you,

frank
 
Hi Frank,

I recall when Win98/98SE was fraught with constant crashes too, especially
the non-descript "explorer has encountered an error and will shut down",
which gave you no clue as to what was wrong, just a pretty blue screen with
hex code all over it.

I was and still am a fan of Win98, supported it for a very long time. But,
things move on. As far as problems go, I've seen far fewer in Vista's first
year and a half than in any previous release. I'd suggest getting a machine
built for you by a local shop with a regular old retail version of Vista
installed on it. It'll be a bit more expensive, but you're likely to have
far fewer problems with vendor's added software ('cause there won't be any
:))

Win98's getting a bit long in the tooth and is no longer being updated. This
makes it a security risk. In addition, I don't know of any software makers
that still support it, so it will become less and less useful. Use it until
it can no longer do what you want it to, then move on.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP

Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com
 
I was in the same dilemma 6 months ago and did exactly what Rick suggested .
Have the computer built for you . I searched various forums and pc
manufacturers sites and came up with what I thought was a decent
configuration for my needs . I had Microcenter in 'DC build it and it has
been an incredible machine . Fast , quite , extremely stable and no garbage
.. Good luck
 
Thanks for your input Rick and REE.

Can anyone out there suggest an individual or company that builds
to order computers locally in Las Vegas?

frank
 
Sorry, no recommendations there as it's nearly 3K miles from me. I would
visit some local shops, look for a reasonably well kept place that doesn't
have dust covered piles of aging merchandise, and where the shop steward
spends more time listening to what you want than telling you what you need.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP

Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com
 
Unfortunately you are not a little north where I am in Reno..... Awesome
shop here built mine.. I simply took parts I purchased as well as Vista
Business (retail) and had them put it all together for me.... The price was
extremely inexpensive.. I have been running this rig with Vista since the
day it was released and no major problems (the odd very MINOR glitch or two
at most) System is rock solid and screaming fast

Intel core2 Q6600
Intel Bad axe D975XBX2 mother board
4gigs ddr 800 ram
twin crossfired ATI 3870 video cards
Twin 160gig sata drives
2 DVD burners
all housed in a Thermaltake Armor case
At time of assembly I had about 1000.00 into it .. You just cannot get that
power and stability at a big store.. I will however see if they have
contacts there for recommendations if you would like
 
Frank...They are not open on weekends but I will attempt to contact them
tomorrow on my way home from work and post back... (unless of course I have
a ridiculously long day ).. In which case I will do soonest and you are
welcome..
 


I'm not Rick, but if you don't mind another opinion, here's mine.


I'm still using Windows 98SE and I'm very happy with it. I had the
hard drive replaced 2 years ago, but that's been the only major
problem.

I've been reading this forum for a couple of months now and have
noticed the quantity of problems have increased quite a bit.


That's to be expected. As Vista use becomes more common, more people
will have problems and questions.

That's not a reflection on Vista, it's simply a fact of life. A US
Auto repair shop that specializes in Toyotas didn't get a lot of
business back in the days when Toyotas were new, and there were very
few Toyotas in the US. Today, with lots of Toyotas around, it gets a
lot of business. That doesn't mean Toyotas are bad cars.

I back up important files regularly to Iomega, but fear one of these
days this system will come crashing down.

I'd like to replace my computer with a really good one (no concern for
cost), but fear a never ending battle with a VISTA OS. I also do not
like the prospect of deleting all the junk pre installed programs that
usually comes with a new computer.

I would appreciate your advise.

Should I wait 6 months or a year until they clean up VISTA or should I
take the plunge now.

Once again, I'm happy with 98 but fear an irretrievable collapse.


Hardware collapses are a fact of life. You're dealing with hardware
and hardware inevitably dies. As long as your data is backed up and
you have installation media for all your software, you can deal with
hardware failure. Just replace the failing part each time.

You can do that as long as you want to. To me, fear of hardware
failure isn't a good reason to replace a computer and get a new
operating system. The more significant issues are these:

1. An older operating system is less secure than the newer ones.

2. As newer software and peripheral hardware comes out, it will be
less and less likely that it work on Windows 98. How significant that
is to you depends on what interest you have in those newer products.

If either or both of those issues is important to you, you should get
a new computer with a new operating system. If they aren't, you should
stay with what you have and what you're happy with. There is *always*
a learning curve when you move to a new operating system, no matter
how good it is. There's no reason to undergo the pain of that learning
curve unless there's a clearly identified benefit to doing so.

But you have apparently already decided to replace your computer, and
question whether to get Vista now or wait "6 months or a year until
they clean up VISTA."

Let me state, first of all, that I have been running Vista here since
RTM in November of 2006, about 16 months ago. I have had essentially
no problems with it, and it's been completely stable. I know many
others who have had similar experiences (the few people I know who
have had opposite experiences are those who mistakenly bought a
computer underpowered for Vista, or who have been infected with
malware, which they wrongly attributed to being a Vista problem).

So if you do get a new computer now, I definitely recommend Vista, and
I see no reason at all to wait. Although improvements are always being
made, there's nothing to "clean up." Just make sure that you don't
skimp on the hardware configuration. Vista needs a *much* more
powerful machine than 98 did.

Also recognize that Vista is similar in some ways to 98, but in other
ways it is very different. Anything different requires time to get
accustomed to, and that period of learning the differences can be a
difficult, stressful one. But it's worth it, in my view. Just be
persistent; don't let those differences overwhelm you, and decide that
you don't like Vista simply because you haven't yet become accustomed
to the ways in which it's different.

One further point: you are concerned with "the prospect of deleting
all the junk pre installed programs that usually comes with a new
computer."

There are a couple of ways to avoid that issue:

1. Instead of buying a computer from a major OEM like Dell, get one
custom-built for you, and install Vista yourself.

2. Get it from a major OEM, but get it from one of those who (perhaps
for a small additional charge) will supply you with a real
installation DVD (not just a recovery DVD). You can then ignore what
they've pre-installed and reinstall it yourself.
 
Hi Ken,

Thank you for your responce.
Hardware collapses are a fact of life. You're dealing with hardware
and hardware inevitably dies. As long as your data is backed up and
you have installation media for all your software, you can deal with
hardware failure. Just replace the failing part each time.

It's not that easy. If the hard drive fails completely and my old
programs will not load on a new O.S., how do I continue accessing and
using my dated Quicken or similar programs?
2. As newer software and peripheral hardware comes out, it will be
less and less likely that it work on Windows 98.

How true, Turbo Tax is an example. I had to go to completetax.
Let me state, first of all, that I have been running Vista here since
RTM in November of 2006, about 16 months ago. I have had essentially
no problems with it, and it's been completely stable. I know many
others who have had similar experiences (the few people I know who
have had opposite experiences are those who mistakenly bought a
computer underpowered for Vista, or who have been infected with
malware, which they wrongly attributed to being a Vista problem).

That's encouraging.
Vista needs a *much* more powerful machine than 98 did.

Planning on one that will climb mountains.
Just be persistent; don't let those differences overwhelm you.

I studied several books when I got 98. Any advice on where to start
with Vista - that's up to date?
will supply you with a real installation DVD (not just a recovery
DVD).

I haven't started looking for a computer builder yet, but when I do,
I'll insist on an installation DVD.

I'll be finding this out when I go to a builder, but perhaps you would
clue me in in advance.

Could the builder transfer all the data on my present drive to one in
the new computer and then set it up for dual boots? Is this scheme
reasonable?

Thanks again,

frank
 
Hi Ken,

Thank you for your responce.


It's not that easy. If the hard drive fails completely and my old
programs will not load on a new O.S., how do I continue accessing and
using my dated Quicken or similar programs?


Two possible solutions:

1. Perform your backups by imaging the entire drive.

2. Use an current version of Quicken (or whatever).

How true, Turbo Tax is an example. I had to go to completetax.


That's encouraging.


Planning on one that will climb mountains.


LOL! Then you should be fine. Be especially sure you don't skimp on
RAM. You almost certainly should have at least 2GB.

I studied several books when I got 98. Any advice on where to start
with Vista - that's up to date?



A book that I recommend? To tell the truth, I have very little
experience with Vista books, and haven't seen anything I would
recommend. Perhaps someone else can help with this.

I haven't started looking for a computer builder yet, but when I do,
I'll insist on an installation DVD.


Personally, I would reject any offer that didn't come with one. If I
buy a computer that comes with an operating system, I want
installation media for that operating system. If it doesn't come with
installation media, I wouldn't buy it unless it were so cheap that
it's still a good value if I buy my own installation media.


I'll be finding this out when I go to a builder, but perhaps you would
clue me in in advance.

Could the builder transfer all the data on my present drive to one in
the new computer and then set it up for dual boots? Is this scheme
reasonable?


Yes, you can do that, but if you want specifics on dual-booting, wait
for someone else to provide details on how to do it. I've personally
never seen the need for dual booting and have never done it.
 
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