Photo paper with no logo on the back

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Most Photo quality paper have a logo ("Canon", "HP", etc) on the backside. Can
anyone recommend a brand that does NOT have a logo?
 
DC said:
Most Photo quality paper have a logo ("Canon", "HP", etc) on the backside.
Can
anyone recommend a brand that does NOT have a logo?
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Costco's Kirkland glossy photo paper. If the purpose of finding such a
paper is to print on both sides this paper won't work as the back has a
coating that will not accept inkjet printing. Epson glossy photo paper has
a faint repeat logo on the back that is very subtle. I've used this paper
for annual greeting cards which I printed on both sides. The logo hardly
showed.
 
Most Photo quality paper have a logo ("Canon", "HP", etc) on the backside. Can
anyone recommend a brand that does NOT have a logo?
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Office Depot photo papers don't have logos. I believe they are
microparticle coated. Wait until the 25 or 100 packs of the
Professional Quality ones are on sale, they often put them on
buy-one-get-one-free, making it cheaper than their Everyday or Premium
paper.

If you're using it for business cards, I think it's still a bit thin
for that, though I've seen ones run off a press that are on even
thinner paper. I prefer business cards that are very stiff and heavy.

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DC said:
Most Photo quality paper have a logo ("Canon", "HP", etc) on the backside. Can
anyone recommend a brand that does NOT have a logo?
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If you want gloss or semi-gloss high quality paper, then Ilford Galerie
"Classic" for dye printers or "Smooth" for pigment printers, or for dye
printers if longevity is not an issue. Profiles are available for these
papers for popular printers from the Ilford site.
 
If you want gloss or semi-gloss high quality paper, then Ilford Galerie
"Classic" for dye printers or "Smooth" for pigment printers, or for dye
printers if longevity is not an issue. Profiles are available for these
papers for popular printers from the Ilford site.
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Having liked Ilford papers for film photography I thought I'd check out your
recommendation. Google brought up Amazon as a possible source. They list a
few varieties, but they also show they have "13 new or used" from other
sources. I don't imagine there is much of a market for used photo papers
though.
 
Edwin said:
Having liked Ilford papers for film photography I thought I'd check out your
recommendation. Google brought up Amazon as a possible source. They list a
few varieties, but they also show they have "13 new or used" from other
sources. I don't imagine there is much of a market for used photo papers
though.
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GOTO COSTCO AND BUY KIRKLAND FULL SHEET PHOTO GLOSSY MADE IN
SWITZERLAND. IT MAY BE ILLFORD AND IT IS VERY GOOD AND UNDER $20.00 FOR
125 SHEETS.
 
GOTO COSTCO AND BUY KIRKLAND FULL SHEET PHOTO GLOSSY MADE IN
SWITZERLAND. IT MAY BE ILLFORD AND IT IS VERY GOOD AND UNDER $20.00
FOR 125 SHEETS.
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MEASKITE IS DA IDIOT. IF YOU BUY COSTCO THEY DO NOT TELL YOU WHAT YOU ARE
GETTING. YOU EVEN ADMIT YOU DO NOT KNOW. IT MIGHT BE ILLFORD. IT MIGHT BE
ACME. IT MIGHT BE YOUR BUTT CLOG. THE PRINTER, INK, AND PAPER ARE A SYSTEM
DESIGNED BY THE MANUFACTURER.

WHAT HIGH SCHOOL DID YOU FAIL TO GO TO?
 
Most Photo quality paper have a logo ("Canon", "HP", etc) on the
backside. Can anyone recommend a brand that does NOT have a logo?
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Try Kodak. I have packaged that is actually doublesided. The NCR paper I
have is single sided, no logo on the other side.
 
GOTO COSTCO AND BUY KIRKLAND FULL SHEET PHOTO GLOSSY MADE IN
SWITZERLAND. IT MAY BE ILLFORD AND IT IS VERY GOOD AND UNDER $20.00 FOR
125 SHEETS.
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Strange as it may seem, considering the source, this is true.
But, be aware that "they are in da bizness", not OEM, and are whores and
do not reveal their sources.
 
Irwin said:
Strange as it may seem, considering the source, this is true.
But, be aware that "they are in da bizness", not OEM, and are whores and
do not reveal their sources.
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YA ALL NOW CAN SEE THAT PECKERBLOOMER IS AN IDIOT.
 
YA ALL NOW CAN SEE THAT PECKERBLOOMER IS AN IDIOT.
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HAHAHA! MEASKITE SHOWS HOW STUPID HE IS. QUOTE "THE PRINTER, PAPER, AND
INK ARE A SYSTEM, DESIGNED BY THE MANUFACTURER". THEN HE RECOMMENDS
COSTCO PAPER! YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE GETTING!!! MEASKITE IS DA
IDIOT! WHICH END IS HIS BRAIN REALLY STORED IN?
 
DC said:
Most Photo quality paper have a logo ("Canon", "HP", etc) on the backside. Can
anyone recommend a brand that does NOT have a logo?
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I have two brands on hand at the moment. One, Kodak "Premium Picture
Paper," has a logo. The other, "Staples Picture Paper," does not.

One thing about the Staples paper - the package is over two years old,
and the paper they sell under that brand may be different now.

TJ
 
Fenrir said:
Office Depot photo papers don't have logos. I believe they are
microparticle coated. Wait until the 25 or 100 packs of the
Professional Quality ones are on sale, they often put them on
buy-one-get-one-free, making it cheaper than their Everyday or Premium
paper.

If you're using it for business cards, I think it's still a bit thin
for that, though I've seen ones run off a press that are on even
thinner paper. I prefer business cards that are very stiff and heavy.
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Interesting. I print my own business cards, and I use 65 lb. card stock.
I never thought of using photo paper for that purpose.

TJ
 
TJ said:
Interesting. I print my own business cards, and I use 65 lb. card stock. I
never thought of using photo paper for that purpose.

TJ
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I've used Wausau 80 pound Cover card stock for business cards and print them
on a laser printer. My Canon inkjet also does a good job printing text on
this stock but isn't great for photos that I've included on greeting cards.
For mixed photo and text printing on card stock I've used double sided matte
paper from Epson and Staples. The Staples Photo Supreme double sided matte
paper is a bit stiffer and is the one I prefer for greeting cards. Might
work well for business cards as well.
 
Interesting. I print my own business cards, and I use 65 lb. card stock.
I never thought of using photo paper for that purpose.

TJ
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I always found 65 lb card stock to be too thin for cards, though as I
mentioned before, 'professional' cards are often lightweight. It's
really more of a personal preference. I prefer thicker cards and
whiter paper if they don't have a lot of color (black and white, or
simple non-photo colored cards) which makes them 'stand out' if
they're on a rack with a bunch of other ones. 110lb index is the
absolute thinnest I'll use, but the Wausau and Hammermill ones don't
come in 96 brightness. I've only seen Wausau 'Extra Bright' card in 65
lb stock. For basic business cards (text and logo, no photos) I use
Weyerhauser Cougar Card Stock, which is 80 lb (comes in 60, 80, and
100, 80 was the only one I could get locally) and 96 bright. It's not
carried in most office supply stores, I had to call around - look in
the phone book under paper - and found a Mac Papers in my area that
carried the 80 lb. I've seen the 100 lb available online, but Mac
Papers said it doesn't come that thick in 8.5 x 11, and they'd have to
cut down A1 sheets ($80 worth of paper + $45 cutting fee) in order to
make it. So I use the 80 lb.

It's best to check the gsm (grams per sq meter) weight of the paper,
as it's a better indication of thickness than the
bond/cover/index/whatever lb method by ream, which can vary (80 lb
Weyerhauser cover stock is thicker than 110 lb Wausau index stock).

Short explanation for others reading this who don't know. Paper weight
in lbs is the average weight of 1 ream of paper (500 sheets) at a
certain size. The size can vary from paper to paper, and between
manufacturers, so the lb weight is not a good universal measurement.
Say 500 sheets of 'Dog Stock' at 11 x 17 equals 90 lbs. Then 500
sheets of a paper that's the exact same thickness, but measured as
'Cat Stock' weighs 45 lbs at 8.5 x 11. On the shelf, '90 lb Dog Stock'
would be the exact same thickness as '45 lb Cat Stock', so it's
difficult to compare bond/index/cover stock, unless you know what size
paper the manufacturer is weighing. Fortunately, even in the US now,
most papers also have the gsm weight on it as well.

I have a difficult time recommending an inkjet paper for business
cards. Avery micro-perforated cards look very unprofessional, so if
you use pre-scored cards, make sure you get the clean edge ones. If
someone picks up a card with damp hands, it may smear or melt,
depending on the printer used, and they'll lose your information. You
also want to make sure that your printer can print text nicely, as
feathery text looks unprofessional as well. For simple cards, I print
out one sheet with cutting guides on the highest quality photo paper I
can use with my printer, and then take it to Staples and get it laser
printed onto the Weyerhauser card stock. The Xerox DocuColor 12 makes
the black toner look slightly 'raised' if you set it on the Extra
Heavyweight paper option. However, laser printing for cards that have
a photographic background doesn't give you as good quality as inkjet,
nor do you get a highly glossy image, even if you use glossy paper (as
toner sits on top, and the paper doesn't have as much of a gloss
effect as inkjet paper does). What I've done recently, using the Epson
R series I have, is to use the Epson Ultra Premium Glossy Photo paper,
which is incredibly thick, and then take a 'full sheet' label and
carefully apply it to the back of the paper before cutting the cards
out. This makes it even thicker, and also covers up the Epson logo. So
far, I have not had any 'peel apart'. The ink seems decently
smudge-proof once it's dried for a few hours. I'm sure a C-series
printer would be even more waterproof, if you want to deal with the
hassle of potential clogging.

A lot of the time, it's simply easier, and cheaper, to have a local
print shop run off the cards, as they can do embossed text and
graphics for basic cards, and often run photographic cards on dye-sub
or LED printers that give a better resolution photo than a laser
copier, and more permanence/waterproofness than an inkjet printer.
However, if you don't use many cards at a time, having full photo
color/print to edge (four sided bleed)/more than 2 colors for a
text/logo card/layout different from the 'default' choices, the cost
can be astronomical to print small runs. Cutting up full bleed cards
can be very annoying, so you should look in to having them run off by
a print shop just to get an idea of the price vs inkjet costs and time
to cut them apart.

---

http://www.FenrirOnline.com

Computer services, custom metal etching,
arts, crafts, and much more.
 
Fenrir said:
I always found 65 lb card stock to be too thin for cards, though as I
mentioned before, 'professional' cards are often lightweight. It's
really more of a personal preference. I prefer thicker cards and
whiter paper if they don't have a lot of color (black and white, or
simple non-photo colored cards) which makes them 'stand out' if
they're on a rack with a bunch of other ones. 110lb index is the
absolute thinnest I'll use, but the Wausau and Hammermill ones don't
come in 96 brightness. I've only seen Wausau 'Extra Bright' card in 65
lb stock. For basic business cards (text and logo, no photos) I use
Weyerhauser Cougar Card Stock, which is 80 lb (comes in 60, 80, and
100, 80 was the only one I could get locally) and 96 bright. It's not
carried in most office supply stores, I had to call around - look in
the phone book under paper - and found a Mac Papers in my area that
carried the 80 lb. I've seen the 100 lb available online, but Mac
Papers said it doesn't come that thick in 8.5 x 11, and they'd have to
cut down A1 sheets ($80 worth of paper + $45 cutting fee) in order to
make it. So I use the 80 lb.
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I've been using some Wausau card stock I picked up at Office Max. I use
my busness cards to promote my business, rather than myself, so maybe
that makes a bit of a difference. I use bright yellow paper, as I think
it tends to stand out amongst all those other white cards that everybody
else uses. My cards are almost all text, just a small logo in one
corner. Everything printed in black. Again, visibility is what I'm going
for. Also, since the black ink in my HP is pigmented, it tends to run
less when it gets wet than the colors do. I use one of those
old-fashioned knife-style paper cutters to cut them out, so I don't
print cutting guides.

My cards look nice (IMHO), but they don't look professionally done. That
is actually what I aim for, as it fits into the rest of the image I
like my business to have, a down-to-Earth, common-man type of thing, if
you catch my drift. That probably wouldn't work for many businesses, but
it does for mine. It's important for a business to have a consistant
image, right down to the style of its cards.

TJ
 
TEEE JAY AKA BIRDRAIN IS IN DA BUSINESS
<snip>
I've been using some Wausau card stock I picked up at Office Max. I
use my busness cards to promote my business, rather than myself, so
maybe that makes a bit of a difference. I use bright yellow paper, as
I think it tends to stand out amongst all those other white cards that
everybody else uses. My cards are almost all text, just a small logo
in one corner. Everything printed in black. Again, visibility is what
I'm going for. Also, since the black ink in my HP is pigmented, it
tends to run less when it gets wet than the colors do. I use one of
those old-fashioned knife-style paper cutters to cut them out, so I
don't print cutting guides.

My cards look nice (IMHO), but they don't look professionally done.
That is actually what I aim for, as it fits into the rest of the
image I like my business to have, a down-to-Earth, common-man type of
thing, if you catch my drift. That probably wouldn't work for many
businesses, but it does for mine. It's important for a business to
have a consistant image, right down to the style of its cards.

TJ
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Fenrir said:
I always found 65 lb card stock to be too thin for cards, though as I
mentioned before, 'professional' cards are often lightweight. It's
really more of a personal preference. I prefer thicker cards and
whiter paper if they don't have a lot of color (black and white, or
simple non-photo colored cards) which makes them 'stand out' if
they're on a rack with a bunch of other ones. 110lb index is the
absolute thinnest I'll use, but the Wausau and Hammermill ones don't
come in 96 brightness. I've only seen Wausau 'Extra Bright' card in 65
lb stock. For basic business cards (text and logo, no photos) I use
Weyerhauser Cougar Card Stock, which is 80 lb (comes in 60, 80, and
100, 80 was the only one I could get locally) and 96 bright. It's not
carried in most office supply stores, I had to call around - look in
the phone book under paper - and found a Mac Papers in my area that
carried the 80 lb. I've seen the 100 lb available online, but Mac
Papers said it doesn't come that thick in 8.5 x 11, and they'd have to
cut down A1 sheets ($80 worth of paper + $45 cutting fee) in order to
make it. So I use the 80 lb.

It's best to check the gsm (grams per sq meter) weight of the paper,
as it's a better indication of thickness than the
bond/cover/index/whatever lb method by ream, which can vary (80 lb
Weyerhauser cover stock is thicker than 110 lb Wausau index stock).

Short explanation for others reading this who don't know. Paper weight
in lbs is the average weight of 1 ream of paper (500 sheets) at a
certain size. The size can vary from paper to paper, and between
manufacturers, so the lb weight is not a good universal measurement.
Say 500 sheets of 'Dog Stock' at 11 x 17 equals 90 lbs. Then 500
sheets of a paper that's the exact same thickness, but measured as
'Cat Stock' weighs 45 lbs at 8.5 x 11. On the shelf, '90 lb Dog Stock'
would be the exact same thickness as '45 lb Cat Stock', so it's
difficult to compare bond/index/cover stock, unless you know what size
paper the manufacturer is weighing. Fortunately, even in the US now,
most papers also have the gsm weight on it as well.

I have a difficult time recommending an inkjet paper for business
cards. Avery micro-perforated cards look very unprofessional, so if
you use pre-scored cards, make sure you get the clean edge ones. If
someone picks up a card with damp hands, it may smear or melt,
depending on the printer used, and they'll lose your information. You
also want to make sure that your printer can print text nicely, as
feathery text looks unprofessional as well. For simple cards, I print
out one sheet with cutting guides on the highest quality photo paper I
can use with my printer, and then take it to Staples and get it laser
printed onto the Weyerhauser card stock. The Xerox DocuColor 12 makes
the black toner look slightly 'raised' if you set it on the Extra
Heavyweight paper option. However, laser printing for cards that have
a photographic background doesn't give you as good quality as inkjet,
nor do you get a highly glossy image, even if you use glossy paper (as
toner sits on top, and the paper doesn't have as much of a gloss
effect as inkjet paper does). What I've done recently, using the Epson
R series I have, is to use the Epson Ultra Premium Glossy Photo paper,
which is incredibly thick, and then take a 'full sheet' label and
carefully apply it to the back of the paper before cutting the cards
out. This makes it even thicker, and also covers up the Epson logo. So
far, I have not had any 'peel apart'. The ink seems decently
smudge-proof once it's dried for a few hours. I'm sure a C-series
printer would be even more waterproof, if you want to deal with the
hassle of potential clogging.

A lot of the time, it's simply easier, and cheaper, to have a local
print shop run off the cards, as they can do embossed text and
graphics for basic cards, and often run photographic cards on dye-sub
or LED printers that give a better resolution photo than a laser
copier, and more permanence/waterproofness than an inkjet printer.
However, if you don't use many cards at a time, having full photo
color/print to edge (four sided bleed)/more than 2 colors for a
text/logo card/layout different from the 'default' choices, the cost
can be astronomical to print small runs. Cutting up full bleed cards
can be very annoying, so you should look in to having them run off by
a print shop just to get an idea of the price vs inkjet costs and time
to cut them apart.

---

http://www.FenrirOnline.com

Computer services, custom metal etching,
arts, crafts, and much more.
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