Phising and a swedish bank

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Hi

- A server in Korea. Registered from a Zombie PC (below).

- A hijacked Zombie PC in Wisconsin US. A retired man with no
knowledge about PCs, just was using it.

- One of Swedens biggest bank was phised withhelp from a
lot of spam mail. A new phised link to the bank.

- This bank was not using pincode generators.

- Some customers leave their codes.

But they didnt get any money ;)

http://www.aftonbladet.se/vss/nyheter/story/0,2789,708798,00.html
 
http://www.antiphishing.org/report_phishing.html

Publicize this link.

(Half the coverage on that page is from the wrong country--NYC subway and
the alligator/snake!)

I could tell what those stories were about, but my Swedish is nonexistent.

Intertran did this with the "4 points."

Tune yourself nots deceive - 4 hint from expert 1. Inga bank cravings that
yous via mejl ska issue prevalence duties. Sheep yous one such mejl , reply
nots at that. 2. Provide one anti spamprogram , the stops they most phishing
mejl. 3. Rack in anti spamprogrammet on automatic the updatings so that the
always has it latest blame. 4. Spent till straits reason Each censorious
anti the as am landing in your mejlkorg.

I think I understand the middle two points, but the first and last are lost
on me....Actually--it was a little easier in the original than in the
supposed translations.
 
Hi

No problem, this was just for "fun" .

World wide fraud and phising and a standalone
Windows Zombie PC in Wisconsin is the key for all of this.
The world is small today.

Maybe it´s time for all ISPs to also wake up and track these
Zombies !? Upgrade/Protect your "stinking" PC or connection will be
cut.

The Swedish bank and police have used Symantec experts for this and of
course FBI.
 
Do you know which version of what OS was on the zombie?

I know Microsoft has the intent of stamping this out--but perhaps not back
to, say, Windows 95/98.....
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I was watching Call for Help on G4, and they rcommended a free toolbar that
will help stop phising attacks. The link to the toolbar is
http://toolbar.netcraft.com. Right now the toolbar is only available for IE
and Firefox (extension), but since Netscape has released a new browser it's
likely they will create an extension for Netscape 8.0 once Netscape's
Extensions are available online.

Alan
 
Hi

We cannot blame MS for all of this, ISPs abuse departments can easily
track these Zoombies if they wish. ISPs can also inform better I
believe
that now it´s enough with unprotected PCs in their net.

If also major ISPs goes out and block smaller ISPs mail adresses
beacuse of repeated spamming coming from a ISPs net it´s also good.

The biggest ISP in Sweden was put on a shorter block from AOL last year
beacuse of Zombie spamming. After this their Abuse department now
either
cut Zombie connections or reduce speed to old fashion modem until the
owner fix their ZombiePC.

And of course this can be all from Win95/98 to a w2k3 server ;)
Maybe easier to hijack 95/98 but all of them can be unprotected and
a Zombie.

And these Zombies are a real threat today.........

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plun



Bill Sanderson wrote :
Do you know which version of what OS was on the zombie?

I know Microsoft has the intent of stamping this out--but perhaps not back
to, say, Windows 95/98.....
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Click to expand...
 
Hi

Well, if a user cannot manage to protect or update
his/hers PC it must be removed from Internet, IMHO. ;)

And phising protections is coming with IE7, all security suites from
all vendors and so on.

But the key is how to force these users to update and also to use
security applications ? These users are the biggest threat today for
all of us and this group is also easiest to fraud for the "bad
guys"........

"I know nothing about computers " they all says.

This is not a freedom anymore ! to be free and run a Zombie PC !?
And our ISPs can manage to force these users easily to protect
themselves. But mostly all ISPs just want to sell their security
package instead of pointing out several solutions for a customer
to protect themselves including Windowsupdate.

We can give you Nortons security suite for $90, too much says the
customer and have no other options from the ISP and runs his/hers PC
without protection instead.
 
plun said:
And these Zombies are a real threat today.........
Click to expand...
They are--and I believe that the Malicious Software Removal tool is making a
difference--but it'll take some time, and, of course, it isn't hitting the
older OS versions.
 
Bill Sanderson formulated the question :
They are--and I believe that the Malicious Software Removal tool is making a
difference--but it'll take some time, and, of course, it isn't hitting the
older OS versions.
Click to expand...

Well again, Windows update what´s that ? www.microsoft.com, never
heard of it ! never uses it.

AOL.com, ya my ISP........... ;)

So ISPs are more important for this to catch all users.
 
So--would it be a Good Thing if MSN and AOL got together
(running and hiding under the desk, or at least turning the computer off for
the night!)

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Hi

Nothing to do with security issues, this is a work which a abuse
department (even a small one easily can do).

- Reported IPs for spammers is easy to cut from Internet and also
to first check with a portscanner that this PC is unprotected.
The Customer will directly call support ;)

- Then they can take representative areas and check for unprotected PCs
and also cut some of them. This will rapidly be spread among users that
a user must protect his/hers PC.

Maybe tough but needed..................

About AOL and MSN I really hate these MEGA Giant companys, this is
bad for a us consumer, maybe if MS sells out MSN it´s maybe good :)
Maybe your DOJ also can see this ?

I really like todays short term deals with operators and all
competition between todays players. Cellphones, ISPs, Telephone, Cable
TV.

So let them compete instead.... !
 
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