Peter Huang (an open letter since e-mail bounced)

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Ot

I tried an e-mail, but it bounced. Hence this post. Please don't take
this as a flame. I am truly trying to be helpful.

I know you are trying to participate in the group and be helpful. However,
your responses have a few flaws.

Your repeated use of "Thank you for posting in the community." is just
noise. It contributes nothing.

You seem to find it necessary to post a re-wording of the problem and then
say "I am researching the problem, and I will update you with new
information ASAP." This contributes nothing. Either you have some help
for the poster or you don't.

Sometimes you ignore what others have said and come up with "your"
solution. Seems a bit arrogant.

Sometimes you acknowledge what others have said and then say you agree.
Unnecessary if the others have properly answered the original poster's
problem. This just adds noise.

Sometimes you extend what someone else said with additional information.
Great! However, embedding it with a bunch of needless "Thanks" "Here is
my version of your problem" wordiness doesn't add a thing.

I read every message in this group. I tend to skip yours because of the
noise. Note how Cor, Armin, Herfried and Jay post. Often no greeting,
certainly no "thanks for posting," a brief explanation of the solution to
the problem as they see it without verification. If that didn't help the
original poster will post back.

Regards,
Ot
 
Take a deep breath...... Now.....

Judging by googles archive of peter's post I cant understand your
frustration. His address (which he himself made known) is
(e-mail address removed). You may send him a message by removing the
"online" from the email address. The beautiful thing about newsgroup is
that everyone can contribute in there own way. Not all of us communicate
the same way on the internet or otherwise. While I agree with you about
peters history of "i am checking into it" is non sence and more of a
annoyance than anything this is peters way of letting the OP know someone
cares and is looking into what is happening. Other than that when peter
response with agreement or otherwise this should not be upsetting because it
is up to the OP to use the info given or wait for someone else.
 
Let the flaming begin...


1) Given that Peter appears to be an employee of Microsoft, and the fact
the others that post from MS most of the time use the same, or similar
wording, perhaps it is some sort of standard set by MS or the division these
people work for. I'm not saying it isn't a little annoying, but perhaps you
are misplacing the blame.

2) While a bit wordy, I find Peter's responses to be courteous, if nothing
else. Something that is surely lacking in the US and some other parts of the
world these days. When you can't even get a "Thank you, come again" from the
pimple-faced punk at fu**ing McDonalds anymore, and the manager couldn't
care less, I find the courtesy refreshing.

3) By saying "I'm looking into the problem" at least he's showing he gives
a rat's ass, which is more than you can say about some of the people at MS
and MS (as a company) itself.

4) How is your posting this criticism (and anyone responding, including me)
and less noise then Peter saying he's looking into the problem?

5) While searching the archives, I see you have asked quite a bit from the
people here, and have given, relatively, little in return, who the HELL are
you to criticize ANYONE for offering FREE advise, regardless of the format?
And if you need an answer faster consider paying for answers, otherwise, go
away!

6) You read each and every post to this group? What, you don't have a job,
or a life? Get one, step outside once in a while and get some fresh air. If
Peter's responses bother you that much just add him to your killfile, then
you don't even have to know he posted.

7) More of a suggestion really...Get off your high-horse and shut the F**K
UP!
 
Thank you for your reply, Brian.

I was really trying to be helpful, it was not intended as a flame. I
apparently failed in that attempt.

Perhaps I let my irritation at him not giving a valid e-mail address get to
me. It wasn't clear that one had to remove the "online." from his addy to
reach him.

Your points are by and large valid observations. I take issue with only
two: one regarding the extent of my contributions and the other your final
"suggestion."

I am brand new to VB.NET. I have received wonderful help here (none from
Peter yet, but that may change). I haven't contributed much, because I
don't _know_ much! I _do_ contribute as and when I can.

I have no intention of following your rude suggestion to, as you put it so
eloquently, "shut the F**K UP!"

Peace,
Ot
 
Hi Ot,

I understand what you are saying. However, from the Microsoft contributors
is Peter one of those, who when he sends a message, tries to fulfil the
wishes of the posters in this group. (He does not use that terrible quoting
many Microsoft posters do, just because one of the Tom's has asked him.)

You can say he overdoes it when he writes a message.

Some of his behaviour needs maybe a little bit more experience, but you
cannot get experience by not doing things.

For me is your intention with your message only to make the postings of
Peter better and hope that Peter keeps posting to this newsgroup.

I have seen that he has done a lot of good post. He is always friendly,
although sometimes people are kicking him.

I have nothing more to add, I hope Peter stays with this newsgroup, and in
past I have seen he has learned from this kind of messages.

Cor
 
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