peer to peer dns issues?

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I am experiencing difficulties getting a newly configured
machine to browse my LAN. It sees outside the network
fine, but for some reason won't see its peers. I have set
all the workgroup, password, user, and other network
config settings the same as the other machines. It has a
gigabit network card and SCSI 3 drives. Any thoughts?
 
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wchastings said:
I am experiencing difficulties getting a newly configured
machine to browse my LAN. It sees outside the network
fine, but for some reason won't see its peers. I have set
all the workgroup, password, user, and other network
config settings the same as the other machines. It has a
gigabit network card and SCSI 3 drives. Any thoughts?
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Network Places does not use DNS, it uses NetBIOS broadcasts.

188001 - Description of the Microsoft Computer Browser Service:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;188001&Product=win2000
188305 - Troubleshooting the Microsoft Computer Browser Service:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;188305&Product=win2000
 
Kevin's advice below is excellent.
Consider that password & user have nothing to do with
the INITIAL browsing. (They matter when you try to connect,
and usually when you try to get a "share list" after you select
a server.)

Can you ping? By name? By number?

Do you have more than one (internal) subnet? If so, do you have
WINS server(s)? All all internal machines configured to use that
WINS server if you have it or add one?
Then Kevin replied below:
Network Places does not use DNS, it uses NetBIOS broadcasts.

188001 - Description of the Microsoft Computer Browser Service:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;188001&Product=win2000
188305 - Troubleshooting the Microsoft Computer Browser Service:
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http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;188305&Product=win2000
 
Gentlemen,

Thanks for the helpful hints. To answer:
Hopefully you used a UNIQUE IP address <grin>
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assigned by gateway router (netgear rh348) - It has never
assigned a duplicate yet (whew).
Kevin's advice below is excellent.
Consider that password & user have nothing to do with
the INITIAL browsing. (They matter when you try to connect,
and usually when you try to get a "share list" after you select
a server.)

Can you ping? By name? By number?
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I can ping by number, did not try name but will do. The
behavior is that it will see my workgroup, but not allow
me to see the machines in the workgroup - 2 messages have
been coming up. One is that the workgroup is not
available, and the other I don't remember. I will have to
retry. I can also map to other drives in the workgroup,
just not see them in the browser.

Do you have more than one (internal) subnet? If so, do you have
WINS server(s)?
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no

All all internal machines configured to use that
WINS server if you have it or add one?
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from articles I understand that I need to do more research
on the role of the browser master. I'm guessing that I
need to check my firewall to make sure it's not blocking
the port used by the browsemaster service.
broadcasts.

This I was able to figure out, but unable to see how I
could play with any settings to see if I could configure
it properly. Seems there is only on/off.

Thanks again for your hints, I will let you know what
happens.

Kindest regards,

Wayne
 
wchastings said:
assigned by gateway router (netgear rh348) - It has never
assigned a duplicate yet (whew).
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I was just joking about your claim of using the "exact same"
configuration.
I can ping by number, did not try name but will do.
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If you cannot ping by number then name is irrelevant; the
other way around is key to a DNS problem.
The
behavior is that it will see my workgroup, but not allow
me to see the machines in the workgroup - 2 messages have
been coming up.
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See in the browser? Note this is NOT related to DNS.

DNS might get involved when you click on one of the showing
items and can/cannot resolve the name but "seeing" them is a
NetBIOS and Browser issue.

Workgroups can only "see" same subnet. Domains can see/browse
across multiple subnets IF you set it up right (use WINS mostly.)
from articles I understand that I need to do more research
on the role of the browser master. I'm guessing that I
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Not really; the master browser is just the machine in the
workgroup/domain that won the "election" on that net and
holds the browse list.

Machines ask for this list -- this list is what is displayed
in the browser.
need to check my firewall to make sure it's not blocking
the port used by the browsemaster service.
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If you have a firewall (separate) then it would mean
separate subnets and "workgroup" browsing NEVER works
across subnets (no "domain master browser" in a workgroup.)

If you have "firwall software" on machines then this can
be the cause of the problem; the master browser may not
be able to receive requests for the list.

BTW, you cannot reliably predict the Master Browser
in MOST subnets so usually it means configuring them
ALL to be able to do this.
 
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