Parallel Installation does not recognize the original copy of Windows2000

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Michael Weinert

Hi,

Parallel Installation does not recognize the original copy of Windows 2000:

Due to many changes in hard- and software my W2k is getting on in years.
Hence I want to do a parallel installation of Windows 2000, and I want
to use my old W2k for months in parallel with my old irretrievable
applications.

I am using the Gigabyte motherboard GA-8IK1100 (Rev 2.0) with two serial
ATA connectors and two UltraDMA IDE connectors. The two S-ATA connectors
are set via BIOS to "SATA Portx configue as SATA Portx" (and "On-Chip
SATA Manual", and "SATA RAID Function disabled"). All partitions are
NTFS partitions.

The old system resides on one (of two) S-ATA disk master (Maxtor1) with
3 partitions:

C: (W2k-old) primary partition
D: (Programs-old) logical partition
E: (Data-old) logical partition
F: (Documents-old) logical partition.

I am trying to install the new system (by using the Windows 2000 CD-ROM)
in to G: of a new IDE disk master (Samsung), which I had formated in
advance like this:

G: (W2k-new) primary partition
H: (Programs-new) logical partition.

In addition to a DVD-RW drive and a CD-RW drive my PC is equipped with a
second S-ATA disk master(Maxtor2) formated as

L: (Archive) primary partition

and a second IDE disk slave (IBM) formated as

M: (Test) primary partition.

Thus the BIOS screen shows among others

Standard CMOS Features
IDE Channel 0 Master [SAMSUNG SP2514N]
IDE Channel 0 Slave [IBM-DTLA-305030]
IDE Channel 1 Master [LITE-ON DVDRW LDV-85]
IDE Channel 1 Slave [CD-W54E]
IDE Channel 2 Master [S_ATA1-Maxtor 6Y160M]
IDE Channel 3 Master [S_ATA2-Maxtor 6Y160M].

I tried to perform the parallel installation of Windows 2000 according to
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/266465/en-us?

"Performing a parallel installation of Windows 2000 or Windows Server 2003
Note The Documents and Settings folder is not overwritten by this
procedure.
1. Start your computer by using the Windows 2000 CD-ROM or the Windows
Server 2003 CD-ROM.
2. After the Setup program finishes inspecting the computer's hardware,
press ENTER to set up Windows.
3. Press the F8 key to agree to the Windows Licensing Agreement.
4. Press the ESC key to install a fresh copy of Windows.
5. Press ENTER to set up Windows on the selected partition."

But I never get to see step 4; Immediately after step 3 (Windows
Licensing Agreement) I am lead to step 5, where I am offered the
following partition to install Windows 2000 to:

C: (W2k-new)
G: (Programs-new)

D: (Test)

E: (W2k-old)
H: (Programs-old)
I: (Data-old)
J: (Documents-old)

F: (Archive).

That means, Setup did not regognize my original copy W2k-old of Windows
2000.
How do I proceed?

Can I continue with the Setup installing W2k-new in to C: without making
my W2k-old unbootable/unusable? I want to use W2k-old for several months
in parallel with my old irretrievable applications.

Setup offers different drive letters than W2k-old; I think, because
Setup can not know the drive letters given by W2k-old.

Are my problems related to the mixture of S-ATA und IDE connectors?
Are these problems resolvable in principle?

BTW:
My Windows Boot Disk is working fine with boot.ini like this:

[boot loader]
timeout=20
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(2)partition(1)\WINNT="Microsoft Windows 2000
Professional" /fastdetect

C:\boot.ini on W2k-old looks different, but it does boot, too:

[boot loader]
timeout=20
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT="Microsoft Windows 2000
Professional" /fastdetect

Any helpfull and detailed suggestions are very much appreciated by
 
Michael Weinert said:
Hi,

Parallel Installation does not recognize the original copy of Windows 2000:

Due to many changes in hard- and software my W2k is getting on in years.
Hence I want to do a parallel installation of Windows 2000, and I want
to use my old W2k for months in parallel with my old irretrievable
applications.

I am using the Gigabyte motherboard GA-8IK1100 (Rev 2.0) with two serial
ATA connectors and two UltraDMA IDE connectors. The two S-ATA connectors
are set via BIOS to "SATA Portx configue as SATA Portx" (and "On-Chip
SATA Manual", and "SATA RAID Function disabled"). All partitions are
NTFS partitions.

The old system resides on one (of two) S-ATA disk master (Maxtor1) with
3 partitions:

C: (W2k-old) primary partition
D: (Programs-old) logical partition
E: (Data-old) logical partition
F: (Documents-old) logical partition.

I am trying to install the new system (by using the Windows 2000 CD-ROM)
in to G: of a new IDE disk master (Samsung), which I had formated in
advance like this:

G: (W2k-new) primary partition
H: (Programs-new) logical partition.

In addition to a DVD-RW drive and a CD-RW drive my PC is equipped with a
second S-ATA disk master(Maxtor2) formated as

L: (Archive) primary partition

and a second IDE disk slave (IBM) formated as

M: (Test) primary partition.

Thus the BIOS screen shows among others

Standard CMOS Features
IDE Channel 0 Master [SAMSUNG SP2514N]
IDE Channel 0 Slave [IBM-DTLA-305030]
IDE Channel 1 Master [LITE-ON DVDRW LDV-85]
IDE Channel 1 Slave [CD-W54E]
IDE Channel 2 Master [S_ATA1-Maxtor 6Y160M]
IDE Channel 3 Master [S_ATA2-Maxtor 6Y160M].

I tried to perform the parallel installation of Windows 2000 according to
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/266465/en-us?

"Performing a parallel installation of Windows 2000 or Windows Server 2003
Note The Documents and Settings folder is not overwritten by this
procedure.
1. Start your computer by using the Windows 2000 CD-ROM or the Windows
Server 2003 CD-ROM.
2. After the Setup program finishes inspecting the computer's hardware,
press ENTER to set up Windows.
3. Press the F8 key to agree to the Windows Licensing Agreement.
4. Press the ESC key to install a fresh copy of Windows.
5. Press ENTER to set up Windows on the selected partition."

But I never get to see step 4; Immediately after step 3 (Windows
Licensing Agreement) I am lead to step 5, where I am offered the
following partition to install Windows 2000 to:

C: (W2k-new)
G: (Programs-new)

D: (Test)

E: (W2k-old)
H: (Programs-old)
I: (Data-old)
J: (Documents-old)

F: (Archive).

That means, Setup did not regognize my original copy W2k-old of Windows
2000.
How do I proceed?

Can I continue with the Setup installing W2k-new in to C: without making
my W2k-old unbootable/unusable? I want to use W2k-old for several months
in parallel with my old irretrievable applications.

Setup offers different drive letters than W2k-old; I think, because
Setup can not know the drive letters given by W2k-old.

Are my problems related to the mixture of S-ATA und IDE connectors?
Are these problems resolvable in principle?

BTW:
My Windows Boot Disk is working fine with boot.ini like this:

[boot loader]
timeout=20
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(2)partition(1)\WINNT="Microsoft Windows 2000
Professional" /fastdetect

C:\boot.ini on W2k-old looks different, but it does boot, too:

[boot loader]
timeout=20
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT="Microsoft Windows 2000
Professional" /fastdetect

Any helpfull and detailed suggestions are very much appreciated by
Click to expand...

The path you describe ***will*** give you a parallel
installation of Win2000.

Having as many partitions as yo have is counterproductive
and will cause you grief later on. Your OS should always
be installed on drive C:. If it is not then you will become
dependent on some other drive having to act as a place
holder for drive C:, even if you wish to remove that old
disk at a later stage. A far simpler and flexible approach
would go like this:
C: - OS, programs
D: - Data

If you wish to retain access to your old installation for
some months then you should investigate a third party
boot loader that lets you swap disks on the fly. XOSL
is such a loader, and it's free.
 
First let me commend you for being the author of what I consider to be
one of the best presented Windows installation trouble messages that
I've ever seen on usenet. It's logically presented and includes all
the necessary information to figure out what's happening.

Hi,

Parallel Installation does not recognize the original copy of Windows 2000:

Due to many changes in hard- and software my W2k is getting on in years.
Hence I want to do a parallel installation of Windows 2000, and I want
to use my old W2k for months in parallel with my old irretrievable
applications.

I am using the Gigabyte motherboard GA-8IK1100 (Rev 2.0) with two serial
ATA connectors and two UltraDMA IDE connectors. The two S-ATA connectors
are set via BIOS to "SATA Portx configue as SATA Portx" (and "On-Chip
SATA Manual", and "SATA RAID Function disabled"). All partitions are
NTFS partitions.

The old system resides on one (of two) S-ATA disk master (Maxtor1) with
3 partitions:

C: (W2k-old) primary partition
D: (Programs-old) logical partition
E: (Data-old) logical partition
F: (Documents-old) logical partition.

I am trying to install the new system (by using the Windows 2000 CD-ROM)
in to G: of a new IDE disk master (Samsung), which I had formated in
advance like this:

G: (W2k-new) primary partition
H: (Programs-new) logical partition.

In addition to a DVD-RW drive and a CD-RW drive my PC is equipped with a
second S-ATA disk master(Maxtor2) formated as

L: (Archive) primary partition

and a second IDE disk slave (IBM) formated as

M: (Test) primary partition.

Thus the BIOS screen shows among others

Standard CMOS Features
IDE Channel 0 Master [SAMSUNG SP2514N]
IDE Channel 0 Slave [IBM-DTLA-305030]
IDE Channel 1 Master [LITE-ON DVDRW LDV-85]
IDE Channel 1 Slave [CD-W54E]
IDE Channel 2 Master [S_ATA1-Maxtor 6Y160M]
IDE Channel 3 Master [S_ATA2-Maxtor 6Y160M].

I tried to perform the parallel installation of Windows 2000 according to
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/266465/en-us?

"Performing a parallel installation of Windows 2000 or Windows Server 2003
Note The Documents and Settings folder is not overwritten by this
procedure.
1. Start your computer by using the Windows 2000 CD-ROM or the Windows
Server 2003 CD-ROM.
2. After the Setup program finishes inspecting the computer's hardware,
press ENTER to set up Windows.
3. Press the F8 key to agree to the Windows Licensing Agreement.
4. Press the ESC key to install a fresh copy of Windows.
5. Press ENTER to set up Windows on the selected partition."

But I never get to see step 4;
Click to expand...

This happens because the primary partition on S_ATA1 is no longer the
first primary partition that setup sees. So as far as setup is
concerned, no other Windows installation exists
Immediately after step 3 (Windows
Licensing Agreement) I am lead to step 5, where I am offered the
following partition to install Windows 2000 to:

C: (W2k-new)
Click to expand...
Primary partition on the first IDE drive (1)
G: (Programs-new)
Click to expand...
Logical volume in extended partition on first IDE drive (5)
D: (Test)
Click to expand...
Primary partition on the second IDE drive (2)
E: (W2k-old)
Click to expand...
Primary partiton on the first SATA drive (3)
H: (Programs-old)
I: (Data-old)
J: (Documents-old)
Click to expand...
Logical volumes in extended partition on first SATA drive (6,7,8)
F: (Archive).
Click to expand...
Primary partition on the second SATA drive (4)
That means, Setup did not regognize my original copy W2k-old of Windows
2000.
How do I proceed?
Click to expand...

You can add an entry in boot.ini that should allow you to dual boot to
W2K-old.
Can I continue with the Setup installing W2k-new in to C: without making
my W2k-old unbootable/unusable? I want to use W2k-old for several months
in parallel with my old irretrievable applications.

Setup offers different drive letters than W2k-old; I think, because
Setup can not know the drive letters given by W2k-old.

Are my problems related to the mixture of S-ATA und IDE connectors?
Are these problems resolvable in principle?
Click to expand...

I assume when you installed the old Windows 2000, the two parallel IDE
drives were not connected? With the two parallel IDE drives connected,
the BIOS is enumerating them before enumerating the SATA drives. This
means that setup will start assigning drive letters to the first
primary partition on the IDE drives, followed by the first primary
partition on the SATA drives. Then setup would go back to the first
drive and assign drive letters to any other primary partitions on the
drives. Then setup goes back to the top of the drive list and assign
drive letters to logical volumes in extended partitions.
BTW:
My Windows Boot Disk is working fine with boot.ini like this:

[boot loader]
timeout=20
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(2)partition(1)\WINNT="Microsoft Windows 2000
Professional" /fastdetect
Click to expand...

Was this modified? Both lines should be rdisk(0). Were you trying to
add an entry for the old Windows 2000? I believe the following should
allow dual boot:
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT="New Microsoft Windows 2000
Professional" /fastdetect
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(2)partition(1)\WINNT="Old Microsoft Windows 2000
Professional" /fastdetect
C:\boot.ini on W2k-old looks different, but it does boot, too:

[boot loader]
timeout=20
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT="Microsoft Windows 2000
Professional" /fastdetect

Any helpfull and detailed suggestions are very much appreciated by
Click to expand...
 
Andy, thank you for your encouraging and detailed answer.

Am 07.01.2006 10:32 schrieb Andy:
First let me commend you for being the author of what I consider to be
one of the best presented Windows installation trouble messages that

I assume when you installed the old Windows 2000, the two parallel IDE
drives were not connected? With the two parallel IDE drives connected,
Click to expand...
You are right.
BTW:
My Windows Boot Disk is working fine with boot.ini like this:

[boot loader]
timeout=20
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(2)partition(1)\WINNT="Microsoft Windows 2000
Professional" /fastdetect
Click to expand...

Was this modified? Both lines should be rdisk(0). Were you trying to
Click to expand...
Yes it was modiefied, because otherwise I was not able to boot my system
(...ntoskrnl.exe missing) with the help of that boot *floppy* disk.

But why has the boot.ini on the Windows Boot Floppy Disk to differ from
that on drive C:?
C:\boot.ini on W2k-old looks different, but it does boot, too:

[boot loader]
timeout=20
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT="Microsoft Windows 2000
Professional" /fastdetect
Click to expand...
Click to expand...

Thanks, again
 
It doesn't see the other installation because it doesn't recognize the
driver controller. You must *F6* very early and very important (at setup is
inspecting your system) in the setup to prevent drive controller detection,
and select S to specify additional drivers. Then later you'll be prompted to
insert the manufacturer supplied Windows 2000 driver for your serial ATA
controller (and any other non-natively supported drive controllers) in drive
"A"

There's no advantage to installing programs to a separate partition. You
loose the OS then the programs will need to be reinstalled anyway.

--

Regards,

Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
Microsoft Certified Professional
Microsoft MVP [Windows]
http://www.microsoft.com/protect

:
| Hi,
|
| Parallel Installation does not recognize the original copy of Windows
2000:
|
| Due to many changes in hard- and software my W2k is getting on in years.
| Hence I want to do a parallel installation of Windows 2000, and I want
| to use my old W2k for months in parallel with my old irretrievable
| applications.
|
| I am using the Gigabyte motherboard GA-8IK1100 (Rev 2.0) with two serial
| ATA connectors and two UltraDMA IDE connectors. The two S-ATA connectors
| are set via BIOS to "SATA Portx configue as SATA Portx" (and "On-Chip
| SATA Manual", and "SATA RAID Function disabled"). All partitions are
| NTFS partitions.
|
| The old system resides on one (of two) S-ATA disk master (Maxtor1) with
| 3 partitions:
|
| C: (W2k-old) primary partition
| D: (Programs-old) logical partition
| E: (Data-old) logical partition
| F: (Documents-old) logical partition.
|
| I am trying to install the new system (by using the Windows 2000 CD-ROM)
| in to G: of a new IDE disk master (Samsung), which I had formated in
| advance like this:
|
| G: (W2k-new) primary partition
| H: (Programs-new) logical partition.
|
| In addition to a DVD-RW drive and a CD-RW drive my PC is equipped with a
| second S-ATA disk master(Maxtor2) formated as
|
| L: (Archive) primary partition
|
| and a second IDE disk slave (IBM) formated as
|
| M: (Test) primary partition.
|
| Thus the BIOS screen shows among others
|
| Standard CMOS Features
| IDE Channel 0 Master [SAMSUNG SP2514N]
| IDE Channel 0 Slave [IBM-DTLA-305030]
| IDE Channel 1 Master [LITE-ON DVDRW LDV-85]
| IDE Channel 1 Slave [CD-W54E]
| IDE Channel 2 Master [S_ATA1-Maxtor 6Y160M]
| IDE Channel 3 Master [S_ATA2-Maxtor 6Y160M].
|
| I tried to perform the parallel installation of Windows 2000 according to
| http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/266465/en-us?
|
| "Performing a parallel installation of Windows 2000 or Windows Server 2003
| Note The Documents and Settings folder is not overwritten by this
| procedure.
| 1. Start your computer by using the Windows 2000 CD-ROM or the Windows
| Server 2003 CD-ROM.
| 2. After the Setup program finishes inspecting the computer's hardware,
| press ENTER to set up Windows.
| 3. Press the F8 key to agree to the Windows Licensing Agreement.
| 4. Press the ESC key to install a fresh copy of Windows.
| 5. Press ENTER to set up Windows on the selected partition."
|
| But I never get to see step 4; Immediately after step 3 (Windows
| Licensing Agreement) I am lead to step 5, where I am offered the
| following partition to install Windows 2000 to:
|
| C: (W2k-new)
| G: (Programs-new)
|
| D: (Test)
|
| E: (W2k-old)
| H: (Programs-old)
| I: (Data-old)
| J: (Documents-old)
|
| F: (Archive).
|
| That means, Setup did not regognize my original copy W2k-old of Windows
| 2000.
| How do I proceed?
|
| Can I continue with the Setup installing W2k-new in to C: without making
| my W2k-old unbootable/unusable? I want to use W2k-old for several months
| in parallel with my old irretrievable applications.
|
| Setup offers different drive letters than W2k-old; I think, because
| Setup can not know the drive letters given by W2k-old.
|
| Are my problems related to the mixture of S-ATA und IDE connectors?
| Are these problems resolvable in principle?
|
| BTW:
| My Windows Boot Disk is working fine with boot.ini like this:
|
| [boot loader]
| timeout=20
| default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT
| [operating systems]
| multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(2)partition(1)\WINNT="Microsoft Windows 2000
| Professional" /fastdetect
|
| C:\boot.ini on W2k-old looks different, but it does boot, too:
|
| [boot loader]
| timeout=20
| default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT
| [operating systems]
| multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT="Microsoft Windows 2000
| Professional" /fastdetect
|
| Any helpfull and detailed suggestions are very much appreciated by
| --
| Michael Weinert, D-29633 Munster
 
Thank you, Pegasus

Am 06.01.2006 22:25 schrieb Pegasus (MVP):
The path you describe ***will*** give you a parallel
installation of Win2000.

Having as many partitions as yo have is counterproductive
and will cause you grief later on. Your OS should always
be installed on drive C:. If it is not then you will become
dependent on some other drive having to act as a place
holder for drive C:, even if you wish to remove that old
disk at a later stage. A far simpler and flexible approach
would go like this:
C: - OS, programs
D: - Data
Click to expand...
I agree,
Regards
 
Thank you, Dave.

Am 07.01.2006 18:37 schrieb Dave Patrick:
It doesn't see the other installation because it doesn't recognize the
driver controller. You must *F6* very early and very important (at setup is
inspecting your system) in the setup to prevent drive controller detection,
and select S to specify additional drivers. Then later you'll be prompted to
insert the manufacturer supplied Windows 2000 driver for your serial ATA
controller (and any other non-natively supported drive controllers) in drive
"A"
Click to expand...
There is no S-ATA driver at Gigabyte
There's no advantage to installing programs to a separate partition. You
loose the OS then the programs will need to be reinstalled anyway.
Click to expand...
I agree.

Regards,
 
What board are you using?

--

Regards,

Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
Microsoft Certified Professional
Microsoft MVP [Windows]
http://www.microsoft.com/protect

:
<snip>
| There is no S-ATA driver at Gigabyte
<snip>
 
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