Hi Kirsten,
Yes, my camera is a Canon MV20 from 2000. It still works
great and I am disappointed not to be able to use it with
the "latest" more secure windows. As pointed out by John
there must be a large number of these cameras in use.
I would gladly install SP2 when this flaw is resolved,
until then I stick to SP1.
I hope there will be a solution out for this in the near
future.
Best Regards,
Thomas
-----Original Message-----
Hi All --
John's correct -- some changes were made in components
below MM to enforce
more rigorous adherence to the standard.
In particular, we found some older DV cameras (The Canon
MV20 in particular
comes to mind) that have issues. In this case, the
output signal mode
response is broken (it reports MPEG2TS instead of DV).
Since MPEG2TS is a
format that MSDV does not support, it default to
NTSC/DVSD, causing corrupt
capture in MM.
AFAIK, there is no work around. Yuck.
If you get a chance, please post the make/model of your
device. I can't make
any promises, but I can push up the info to the
appropriate team to give the
issue some visibility.
Cheers!
-Kristen Miller [MS]
This posting is provided "as is" with no warranties, and
confers no rights.
Hello there,
One of the most significant "features" of SP2 was
to rigorously enforce
the standards it tried to set in the bare bones
version of XP. This has
caught a lot of manufacturers out. These manufacturers
used certain
weakness' in XP in order to achieve their particular
aims. In addition to
this certain attempts were made to make Movie Maker
more reliable.
With regard to capturing DV video, I was going to
tell you that your
description was wrong....then though I had better
check anyway and came up
with the following result......
I plugged in my DV camera and went straight to the
Capture option and
sure enough it DID say PAL....so...I unplugged the
camera and set the
options under tools to NTSC...I then plugged in the
camera and went
straight to capture again, and it still says PAL.
So, it seems that Movie Maker 2.1 detects the
camera type when you plug
it in (as expected) and the settings for PAL/NTSC in
Options are to do
with the format you eventually create. All of that was
expected.
So, if Movie Maker now considers your camera to be
NTSC when it is
clearly PAL then there must be an error with the
firewire card or your
camera or the software (result of installing SP2)
Its your guess as to which is the problem (tongue
in cheek) If your
Firewire card is removable my first action would be to
remove it making
sure it no longer exists in the device manager as well
then reboot a
couple of times so as to ensure XP forgets it and then
go through the
normal install of hardware procedure. It might work if
you are lucky.
Best Wishes.....John Kelly
www.the-kellys.org
www.the-kellys.co.uk
"John E. Jr." <
[email protected]>
wrote in message
(e-mail address removed)...
Problem: After "upgrading" to SP", I can no longer
capture from my PAL DV
camera. Before Service Pack 2, I could plug n' play -
now, the captured
video
is distorted. I believe that MM2.1 assumes that the
source is NTSC DV.
Sound
plays fine.
I have tried using MM 1.0 and 1.1, they both produce
the same, distorted
picture. All of the options for saving in other
formats (save for Pocket
PC,
for example) produce the same results. Where a video
standard is named,
it's
NTSC. Not a mention of PAL anywhere.
I'd like to capture using MM, it used to be so easy -
before SP2.
PS- Just how many guys in this group are named John?
:
Hello there,
Not that this helps you ... I capture fine using
PAL with Firewire
and
Analog ... no problems at all, I have even captured
from a dual mode DVD
deck in NTSC without problem. If I remember
correctly, the NTSC/PAL
switch
found in options only matters when creating a movie
which you send
either to
hard drive or back to a DV camera, I believe it has
no impact on the
capture
process at all...the "devcap" is dealt with
internally by the program
during
the capture process.
The language and region settings will have no
effect except when
doing
an automatic update of the system and of course when
you are using the
OS.
What is your actual problem...I don't seem to
have your original
message.
Best Wishes.....John Kelly
"John E. Jr." <John E.
(e-mail address removed)> wrote in message
(e-mail address removed)...
Ditto. I now have a fine collection of MovieMaker
versions, NONE of
which
will capture. I have tried changing the options as
suggested by Rehan,
but
to
no avail. I changed my XP Language and Regional
settings in Contol
Panel
too.... it doesn't seem to care if I'm in Belgium,
Germany, Denmark,
or
the
United States - All it will capture is NTSC. Makes
my PAL stuff come
out
kinda funny....
Suggestions, PLEASE. (Going back to XP SP1 is not
an option - it's the
company's computer)
:
Hi,
I have the same problem. Capturing(Firewire) with
Win Xp
SP1 is no problem, I have done it many times,
however
after installing SP2 the PAL option disappeared
from the
capturing menu. I addition the video is distorted.
It does not matter if you go into the options
menu and
select PAL, it still only give the NTSC option.
I have been trying to search for a solution on
internet,
but no success to far. The only solution that
works for
the moment is to uninstall SP2. I have done that
twice
now with the same results, back to SP1 and
moviemaker
works again.
.