pagefile.sys problem 2Megs only

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dcdon

My pagefile can not be changed from 2 megs. After attemting to change, I get
a restart with no change.

Please, will someone tell me how to correct this problem or point me. I've
been looking for a while and can not find this particular problem and fix.

thx,

don
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Thanks Dave, but I already had full control of the %systemdrive% in
Administrator and my user account I normally use.
The second litle tidbit seems to be the sticking point. Using the "change"
applet to change is the problem. At the OK prompt, boot takes place, and the
"set" to change is not completed. I do not have any restoration console
installed. When I have tried to delete the pagefile.sys access is denied due
to it being in use. Just lost at this point without installing the console.
Is there any other way to nuke the file?

tia,

don
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Make sure that the System account (NT Authority) has full control of the
%systemdrive% and or the drive your trying to put the pagefile on. My
Computer|Drive|File|Properties|Security|Permissions

Control Panel|System|Performance|Change
 
Recovery console - sorry

Make sure that the System account (NT Authority) has full control of the
%systemdrive% and or the drive your trying to put the pagefile on. My
Computer|Drive|File|Properties|Security|Permissions

Control Panel|System|Performance|Change
 
Nothing to do with your account. The system account (NT authority) is the
operating system's account.
 
Dave,
I followed your intructions, and added SYSTEM and gave full control. Tried
changing pagefile size using my user and Administrator, but pooter still
reboots at OK prompt.
Any other suggestions very much appreciated.

thanks,
don
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thx,, thanx, thanks
I'll give it a whirl...

don
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Sounds like the account you're using may not have permissions. This may also
help.

How to Restore the Default NTFS Permissions for Windows 2000
http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q266/1/18.ASP
 
You might also want to run regedt32.exe and have a look at the Reg_Multi_Sz
value
"PagingFiles"
found at
HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager\Memory Management

1.) What is the value?
2.) Is it a type Reg_Multi_Sz
 
I've no idea really why it would blue screen at setting the pagefile size.
Perhaps one of these hits home.

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;228888


http://support.microsoft.com/search...e=PHRASE&maxResults=150&Titles=false&numDays=

I don't know if this is a fairly new install or what, and how the pagefile
got to it's current setting. If you feel adventurous, you can try setting
it's size through registry edit. Be sure your sufficiently backed up file
wise and registry wise. (in other words be prepared to reinstall the
operating system) You can set the pagefile through regedt32.exe by setting
the Reg_Multi_Sz value of "PagingFiles" an example;
C:\pagefile.sys 1000 2000
would set the pagefile on the "C" drive with an initial size of 1000 mB and
a maximum size of 2000 mB
( the System account (NT Authority) must have full control the drive you
choose)
 
Thanks, I'll study a while...
and will try the registry edit.
I did add SYSTEM to users and gave it full control, if that is what you
mean.

I'll study, get enlightened, try the registry edit, and the scream HELP
DAVE.... (hehe)

thanks again,
don
---------

I've no idea really why it would blue screen at setting the pagefile size.
Perhaps one of these hits home.

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;228888


http://support.microsoft.com/search/default.aspx?Catalog=LCID=1033&CDID%
3DEN-US-KB%26PRODLISTSRC%3DON&withinResults=&QuerySource=gASr_Query&Product=
win2000&Queryc=CLASSPNP.SYS&Query=CLASSPNP.SYS&KeywordType=PHRASE&maxResults
=150&Titles=false&numDays=

I don't know if this is a fairly new install or what, and how the pagefile
got to it's current setting. If you feel adventurous, you can try setting
it's size through registry edit. Be sure your sufficiently backed up file
wise and registry wise. (in other words be prepared to reinstall the
operating system) You can set the pagefile through regedt32.exe by setting
the Reg_Multi_Sz value of "PagingFiles" an example;
C:\pagefile.sys 1000 2000
would set the pagefile on the "C" drive with an initial size of 1000 mB and
a maximum size of 2000 mB
( the System account (NT Authority) must have full control the drive you
choose)
 
Still working on it.
Made ERD, Full Backup, edited regedt32 to change pagefile.sys size to 200Meg
for now, booted, varified that is what it shows now. Have not tried to
change again, and will not probably until I understand more about the errors
from Blue Screen. FYI, this box has 2ea. 1gig sticks of DDR2700, if that
could mean anything.

Found this:
Source:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/TechNet/prodtechn
ol/windows2000serv/reskit/serverop/part4/sopch16.asp
Stop 0x00000024 or NTFS_FILE_SYSTEM
This Stop message, also known as Stop 0x24, indicates that a problem
occurred within Ntfs.sys (the driver file that allows the system to read and
write to NTFS drives).



going to bed

thx again,

don

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I've no idea really why it would blue screen at setting the pagefile size.
Perhaps one of these hits home.

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;228888


http://support.microsoft.com/search/default.aspx?Catalog=LCID=1033&CDID%
3DEN-US-KB%26PRODLISTSRC%3DON&withinResults=&QuerySource=gASr_Query&Product=
win2000&Queryc=CLASSPNP.SYS&Query=CLASSPNP.SYS&KeywordType=PHRASE&maxResults
=150&Titles=false&numDays=

I don't know if this is a fairly new install or what, and how the pagefile
got to it's current setting. If you feel adventurous, you can try setting
it's size through registry edit. Be sure your sufficiently backed up file
wise and registry wise. (in other words be prepared to reinstall the
operating system) You can set the pagefile through regedt32.exe by setting
the Reg_Multi_Sz value of "PagingFiles" an example;
C:\pagefile.sys 1000 2000
would set the pagefile on the "C" drive with an initial size of 1000 mB and
a maximum size of 2000 mB
( the System account (NT Authority) must have full control the drive you
choose)
 
Dave,

Just a report. After an ERD and a full backup, with just a short time to
kill, I tried reducing the size of both initial and max settings one at a
time and both together, because I remembered when this first happened, I had
tried to increase the size and got the blue screen, but when I reduced the
size, everything worked as normal. And blue screen again showed up when I
tried to increase the sizes, either or both. Went back to the registry,
increased both to 1000M, and that's where it is now. Ran a chkdsk /f and
nada. Something it's not looking for. I plan to look up each of the codes
next to see where that leads and read the articles and other great info you
pointed me at. Will let you knoe how it's goin'.

thanks again,
don
--------

I've no idea really why it would blue screen at setting the pagefile size.
Perhaps one of these hits home.

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;228888


http://support.microsoft.com/search/default.aspx?Catalog=LCID=1033&CDID%
3DEN-US-KB%26PRODLISTSRC%3DON&withinResults=&QuerySource=gASr_Query&Product=
win2000&Queryc=CLASSPNP.SYS&Query=CLASSPNP.SYS&KeywordType=PHRASE&maxResults
=150&Titles=false&numDays=

I don't know if this is a fairly new install or what, and how the pagefile
got to it's current setting. If you feel adventurous, you can try setting
it's size through registry edit. Be sure your sufficiently backed up file
wise and registry wise. (in other words be prepared to reinstall the
operating system) You can set the pagefile through regedt32.exe by setting
the Reg_Multi_Sz value of "PagingFiles" an example;
C:\pagefile.sys 1000 2000
would set the pagefile on the "C" drive with an initial size of 1000 mB and
a maximum size of 2000 mB
( the System account (NT Authority) must have full control the drive you
choose)
 
Sorry that was chkdsk /r


I've no idea really why it would blue screen at setting the pagefile size.
Perhaps one of these hits home.

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;228888


http://support.microsoft.com/search/default.aspx?Catalog=LCID=1033&CDID%
3DEN-US-KB%26PRODLISTSRC%3DON&withinResults=&QuerySource=gASr_Query&Product=
win2000&Queryc=CLASSPNP.SYS&Query=CLASSPNP.SYS&KeywordType=PHRASE&maxResults
=150&Titles=false&numDays=

I don't know if this is a fairly new install or what, and how the pagefile
got to it's current setting. If you feel adventurous, you can try setting
it's size through registry edit. Be sure your sufficiently backed up file
wise and registry wise. (in other words be prepared to reinstall the
operating system) You can set the pagefile through regedt32.exe by setting
the Reg_Multi_Sz value of "PagingFiles" an example;
C:\pagefile.sys 1000 2000
would set the pagefile on the "C" drive with an initial size of 1000 mB and
a maximum size of 2000 mB
( the System account (NT Authority) must have full control the drive you
choose)
 
You might get lucky and find something. If it were me I don't think I would
spend much time with it. I'd backup, blow it away and start a new install.

--
Regards,

Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
Microsoft MVP [Windows NT/2000 Operating Systems]

dcdon said:
Dave,

Just a report. After an ERD and a full backup, with just a short time to
kill, I tried reducing the size of both initial and max settings one at a
time and both together, because I remembered when this first happened, I had
tried to increase the size and got the blue screen, but when I reduced the
size, everything worked as normal. And blue screen again showed up when I
tried to increase the sizes, either or both. Went back to the registry,
increased both to 1000M, and that's where it is now. Ran a chkdsk /f and
nada. Something it's not looking for. I plan to look up each of the codes
next to see where that leads and read the articles and other great info you
pointed me at. Will let you knoe how it's goin'.

thanks again,
don
--------

I've no idea really why it would blue screen at setting the pagefile size.
Perhaps one of these hits home.

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;228888


http://support.microsoft.com/search...ry=CLASSPNP.SYS&KeywordType=PHRASE&maxResults
=150&Titles=false&numDays=

I don't know if this is a fairly new install or what, and how the pagefile
got to it's current setting. If you feel adventurous, you can try setting
it's size through registry edit. Be sure your sufficiently backed up file
wise and registry wise. (in other words be prepared to reinstall the
operating system) You can set the pagefile through regedt32.exe by setting
the Reg_Multi_Sz value of "PagingFiles" an example;
C:\pagefile.sys 1000 2000
would set the pagefile on the "C" drive with an initial size of 1000 mB and
a maximum size of 2000 mB
( the System account (NT Authority) must have full control the drive you
choose)

--
Regards,

Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
Microsoft MVP [Windows NT/2000 Operating Systems]

dcdon said:
Your absolutely right again.
I did have Auto reboot checked and I did uncheck it, booted, tried teh
change, and got this blue screen:

Blue screen:
====
***STOP: 0x00000024 (0x001925E, 0xBAB8DBC5C, 0xBA8D88B4, 0xF6440BB1)
***Adress F64400BB1 base at F64000, DateStamp 3e25b9bb - CLASSPNP.SYS
Beginning dump of physical memory
Physical memory dump complete. Contact your system administrator or
technical support group.
====

I checked regedt32.
The right pane Memory Management has "PagingFiles : REG_MULTI_SZ :
C:\pagefile.sys 2 2 ..."
and the Multi-String Editor has "pagefile.sys 2 2" (without the "three
dots")

Where do we go from here?

thanks,
don
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Thanks Dave,

I'm curious and right now don't seem to have any adverse conditions. Curious
and think your right about backing up. Gonnna do it. Working on another box
to load and gonna wait to do a fresh install. Guess curiosity has me too.

Need to fess up, though. All of us have done an "oh, dammit", one time or
another. Well, I read on a board when looking for something completely
different, if the pagefile was changed to "zero", before defragging, and
then rebooting, it would help speed.Wasn't even there for that reason at
all. Figured it couldn't hurt; WRONG. A 10M pagefile showed up, I tried to
change it to 200, and got a reboot (blue screen auto reboot), and afterward
did get it to change to 20M the next time, but reboot everytime I tried to
increase afterward. I did lower the pagefile size, and got done to a 2M
pagefile and started getting "low memory" messages and the system was
incresing the pagefile, but it never actually increased the file size. It
was after your help, I realized it could be lowered, but only increased with
a registry edit (thanks to your help). Just wanted you know what happened,
and didn't figure you would mind reading this. Thanks, so much for being
such a great guy and helping all these poor lost souls (pointing to myself
too). Folks are lucky to have caregivers that are not generally repleat of
accolades, but keep on truckin' like a timex. Enougha that., thank you very
much sir. And I hope you don't mind my letting you know what happens later.
(BTW I have done a 'chkdsk /f 'and 'chkdisk /r' both and "no joy")

don
---------

You might get lucky and find something. If it were me I don't think I would
spend much time with it. I'd backup, blow it away and start a new install.

--
Regards,

Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
Microsoft MVP [Windows NT/2000 Operating Systems]

dcdon said:
Dave,

Just a report. After an ERD and a full backup, with just a short time to
kill, I tried reducing the size of both initial and max settings one at a
time and both together, because I remembered when this first happened, I had
tried to increase the size and got the blue screen, but when I reduced the
size, everything worked as normal. And blue screen again showed up when I
tried to increase the sizes, either or both. Went back to the registry,
increased both to 1000M, and that's where it is now. Ran a chkdsk /f and
nada. Something it's not looking for. I plan to look up each of the codes
next to see where that leads and read the articles and other great info you
pointed me at. Will let you knoe how it's goin'.

thanks again,
don
--------

I've no idea really why it would blue screen at setting the pagefile size.
Perhaps one of these hits home.

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;228888


http://support.microsoft.com/search...ry=CLASSPNP.SYS&KeywordType=PHRASE&maxResults
=150&Titles=false&numDays=

I don't know if this is a fairly new install or what, and how the pagefile
got to it's current setting. If you feel adventurous, you can try setting
it's size through registry edit. Be sure your sufficiently backed up file
wise and registry wise. (in other words be prepared to reinstall the
operating system) You can set the pagefile through regedt32.exe by setting
the Reg_Multi_Sz value of "PagingFiles" an example;
C:\pagefile.sys 1000 2000
would set the pagefile on the "C" drive with an initial size of 1000 mB and
a maximum size of 2000 mB
( the System account (NT Authority) must have full control the drive you
choose)

--
Regards,

Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
Microsoft MVP [Windows NT/2000 Operating Systems]

dcdon said:
Your absolutely right again.
I did have Auto reboot checked and I did uncheck it, booted, tried teh
change, and got this blue screen:

Blue screen:
====
***STOP: 0x00000024 (0x001925E, 0xBAB8DBC5C, 0xBA8D88B4, 0xF6440BB1)
***Adress F64400BB1 base at F64000, DateStamp 3e25b9bb - CLASSPNP.SYS
Beginning dump of physical memory
Physical memory dump complete. Contact your system administrator or
technical support group.
====

I checked regedt32.
The right pane Memory Management has "PagingFiles : REG_MULTI_SZ :
C:\pagefile.sys 2 2 ..."
and the Multi-String Editor has "pagefile.sys 2 2" (without the "three
dots")

Where do we go from here?

thanks,
don
--------
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Click to expand...
 
Don,
Thanks for the feedback, and yes always glad to hear what happens later. I
usually keep a watch on threads for a couple of weeks or more just for that
reason.
 
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