P4T533C and All-in-wonder 9700Pro

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Are you aware of any problems with P4T533C and the ATI All-in-wonder
9700Pro? I understand there are problems with some mboards and power
supply units. I have an Antec True 430 in my system and have just
ordered one of the ATI cards. Any idears pleas ?

Thanks.
 
We have P4T533's (not the "-C" model) and 9700 Pro's working together
with no problems. I would not expect any problem with the P4T533-C.
Your post suggests power supply concerns (which are valid) rather than
motherboard concerns.
 
Thanks Barry. What type of PSU do you have with the system ? Did
you install any additional cooling for the 9700Pro ? I am looking at
the All-In-Wonder version which is the same specs + the TV Capture.

Thanks.

Malam
 
Malam said:
Are you aware of any problems with P4T533C and the ATI All-in-wonder
9700Pro? I understand there are problems with some mboards and power
supply units. I have an Antec True 430 in my system and have just
ordered one of the ATI cards. Any idears pleas ?
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Not using this MB, but we've got one of these cards (the AIWP aswell)
running off an Antec 400w unit.
Just remember to plug in the additional power connector directly into
the graphics card!!!

And get a spare power supply ready for when that piece of shit Antec
blows up...... I'm really not happy, had another one blow up in my face
last night. That's three Antec PSU units gone in the last three months.
Really, really not happy :-(


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Not using this MB, but we've got one of these cards (the AIWP aswell)
running off an Antec 400w unit.
Just remember to plug in the additional power connector directly into
the graphics card!!!

And get a spare power supply ready for when that piece of shit Antec
blows up...... I'm really not happy, had another one blow up in my face
last night. That's three Antec PSU units gone in the last three months.
Really, really not happy :-(
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You need bigger PSU! Antec True Power 550W.
People in general use to small PSUs.
 
Gareth Jones said:
Not using this MB, but we've got one of these cards (the AIWP aswell)
running off an Antec 400w unit.
Just remember to plug in the additional power connector directly into
the graphics card!!!

And get a spare power supply ready for when that piece of shit Antec
blows up...... I'm really not happy, had another one blow up in my face
last night. That's three Antec PSU units gone in the last three months.
Really, really not happy :-(
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What do you do to them ? There must be something unique about
what you are doing, because I don't see a lot of posts
about failed units here. Does the thing run hot while you
are using it - a lot of heat thrown off ? Can you hear
"coil noise", where sound comes from the PSU while a
100% CPU loading program is running ? There has to be something
about what you are doing that is different. How about
your mains - are mains abnormally high or low ? Do you have
large inductive loads running nearby (putting spikes into
the mains) ? If so, you might want to use a surge protector
of some sort.

How about any large motors connected to it (like a pump for
a water cooling system) or perhaps a Peltier cooler ?

There was one report from a poster here, who owned a PSU
that ran so hot, you couldn't touch the metal on the PSU
case. He never did post back with a resolution of why that
was happening.

Just curious,
Paul
 
Paul said:
What do you do to them ? There must be something unique about
what you are doing, because I don't see a lot of posts
about failed units here.
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I did a bit of searching last night. There are a lot (and I mean a lot)
of reports of Antec power supplies blowing up on other forums.
You might be right that you won't find many posts about a dud power
supply on a motherboard forum though......

And I'm not doing anything wrong.
The first two were in very different machines I built.
About 20 miles apart. I've got about 8 machines running here 24/7 (the
house is 2 years old and I did the wiring myself!) and the other place
has about 40. No crashes, no instability, just BANG after a couple of
months. And incidentally, in both places, they took out the main 32A
fuse at the board !?!?

The one last night was a brand new case, out of the box on the bench
being built up. All I had connected was the MB, one stick of ram and a
low power graphics card. Not even a hard disk.
Power applied, the MB LED came on, press the power button......
FLASH...BANG......
And before anyone says anything about shorting motherboard standoffs, I
fortunately have spare PSU's here and everything is fine now (I actually
had TWO of these antec cases and I've just swapped the PSUs this morning
and all is still fine)

Its a pity because I quite like the cases and the power supplies are
really quiet and stable for a non specialised item...... but if the
frigging things are blowing up like this!?!
Note, I've not had ONE other make of PSU fail on me personally EVER
apart from fans slowing down and becoming noisy due to YEARS of use!!!


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Gareth Jones said:
I did a bit of searching last night. There are a lot (and I mean a lot)
of reports of Antec power supplies blowing up on other forums.
You might be right that you won't find many posts about a dud power
supply on a motherboard forum though......

And I'm not doing anything wrong.
The first two were in very different machines I built.
About 20 miles apart. I've got about 8 machines running here 24/7 (the
house is 2 years old and I did the wiring myself!) and the other place
has about 40. No crashes, no instability, just BANG after a couple of
months. And incidentally, in both places, they took out the main 32A
fuse at the board !?!?

The one last night was a brand new case, out of the box on the bench
being built up. All I had connected was the MB, one stick of ram and a
low power graphics card. Not even a hard disk.
Power applied, the MB LED came on, press the power button......
FLASH...BANG......
And before anyone says anything about shorting motherboard standoffs, I
fortunately have spare PSU's here and everything is fine now (I actually
had TWO of these antec cases and I've just swapped the PSUs this morning
and all is still fine)

Its a pity because I quite like the cases and the power supplies are
really quiet and stable for a non specialised item...... but if the
frigging things are blowing up like this!?!
Note, I've not had ONE other make of PSU fail on me personally EVER
apart from fans slowing down and becoming noisy due to YEARS of use!!!
Click to expand...

No, that doesn't sound like user error. One difference between our
usages, is you probably run at 230V and I run at 115V. The flash and
bang sounds like one of the main caps is flashing over or something.
That is a dead short across the mains, and that is why your 32A fuse
is blowing.

I think when it runs at 230, the two main caps are put in
series, and they are supposed to divide the voltage. Now,
assume they didn't for a moment - one would end up with more
voltage across it than the other. I presume they think of
these things when they design them. Based on running at 230
or 115, could account for a difference in observed failure rate.
It would be interesting to see if all the failures are in
Europe, as higher voltages seem to be prevalent there.

Have you ever measured the mains, to see if they are
consistent? I am amazed at how stable my voltage is, but
I am only one block from a major substation. (It'll be
stable until the heat of summer comes, and we run out
of power.)

Paul
 
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