P4C800E- Deluxe: & 2 SATA WD 36Raptors:F6 to floppy from what: iaa35r?

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ASUS P4C800E- Deluxe

2.6C cpu

OCZ EL4200 (2x256) RAM

2x WD Raptor 36.7GB HDDs (OS and apps only)

IBM 30GB Ultra ATA-100 HDD (long term storage/usage only)

Pioneer DVD-116 (player only)

floppy

ATI Radeon 64MB DDR AGP4X VIVO

SoundBlaster Live 5.1 pci

3com 2976 FD voice modem pci



I'm trying to get used to WinXP, and my next move is to install 2 Raptors in
RAID0 for performance.



For the above components I know this much for sure:

I have the non-Ultra DVD on the secondary IDE channel (as recommended by
ASUS). I am using a short single round 80-conductor cable.

I will have the Ultra ATA-100 HDD on the primary IDE channel because it is
Ultra as recommended by ASUS. I am using a single short round 80-conductor
cable.

What do I need to have on floppy when I press F6 during the OS WinXP
install? The files from iaa35r?



These are the software options regarding RAID (or SATA) from asus.com, and
what I can deduce about them:

378ATA100130.zip I do not know whether this is needed for a dual SATA
RAID0 boot drive, or my system, or how to install it (while
running windows, or not?)

378raid_100137.zip I believe this is installed after(and in addition
to(while running windows)) the WinXP/F6 install

iaa35r.zip Is this the file from which to make the F6
floppy. I have instructions. I just don't see the Intel® 82801ER I/O
Controller Hub mentioned in the readme, anywhere in device manager, or in a
quick look-through of my
P4C800E- Deluxe manual. If so, is this not the file from which to make the
F6 floppy? And if so, what is? Do I
have this component?

PAM_2.zip Is this only for systems on a network or
something?
 
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Okay, if the Windows XP CD you have has SP1a (version 2002 on CD) or you
have slipstreamed your drivers, you dont need to make a floppy.

This method is far less hassle than the floppy method, trust me.


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Boot Meyers wrote:
| Yes. I concur.
Ack the BOOT! :)

hehe
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BoB wrote:

| I wouldn't count on any windows cd, they still don't find promise or
| highpoint
| controllers.

A properly slipstreamed disc has drivers for ALL of your hardware setup.

Mine for instance, has my chipset drivers, as well as sound card, video
card as well as the WIA driver for my digital camcorder.

Given the right amount of effort, you can do a lot more with that CD
than boot off it to 'Repair'

| |
| Okay, if the Windows XP CD you have has SP1a (version 2002 on CD) or you
| have slipstreamed your drivers, you dont need to make a floppy.
|
| This method is far less hassle than the floppy method, trust me.
|
|
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Mine doesn't! XP/pro/sp1a
I slipstreamed sp1 over a year ago from an administrative install point.
Will do sp2 this summer, joker!
BTW w2k2003 ain't finding a whole lot either!
Maxblast3 cd sees drives on a highpoint controller!
 
I must say this invaluable information is indispensable in guiding me
through what might otherwise be a precarious situation.
 
First I'll connect two sata raptors, and no other HDD. one new, one
formatted shortly using a 4th HDD-wish me luck)

Then I'll enable the onboard controller, and set it to RAID

Then I'l see all about what is what in regards to boot sequence, etc.(just
for fun)

then i'll save and exit

then that will the detect the 2 raptors attached to SATA_RAID1 and
SATA_RAID2

then will it automatically enter the already installed and supplied utility
to allow me to set up the array?
IS THIS UTILITY INCLUDED, WILL IT RUN, DO I NEED TO INSTALL IT FIRST, ARE
THERE ANY NEWER VERSIONS?

this will allow me to startup the windows install and it will want me to
push F6, and i have decided to go with the promise fasttrak F6 floopy route
(the makedisk.exe unzipped from the 378raid_100137 file).


THIS WILL AT LEAST GET ME (CORRECTLY) TO THE POINT OF HAVING INSTALLED THE
os (IN ITS MOST PRIMAITIVE FORM) ON A RAID0 (Y/N)?
 
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BoB wrote:

| Mine doesn't! XP/pro/sp1a
| I slipstreamed sp1 over a year ago from an administrative install point.
| Will do sp2 this summer, joker!
| BTW w2k2003 ain't finding a whole lot either!
| Maxblast3 cd sees drives on a highpoint controller!


Great, you slipstreamed SP1, good for you, the process of
'slipstreaming' is not just adding service packs, you can 'slip' almost
any driver package into the 'stream'

I do not know why you seem to take offense at my suggestion, your not
the original poster, and my suggestion is valid, slipstreaming these
drivers into his Win XP CD *WILL* save him any trouble in the long run.

So, if you think all you can slipstream is the service packs, *you* are
the joker.

And I really couldnt give a flying fig as to what 'w2k2003 (WTF is that,
Windows 2000 2003? dumbass.) ' will support as it is a SERVER OS, and
only wanna-be's will run it on a home machine, while they wait for XP
reloaded.

Because we all know what Gartner et al have to say about deploying
Windows SERVER 2003 this early in the game in mission-critical (hint:
DONT) enviroments.

I've been slipstreaming everything on a regular basis ever since Windows
~ 2000 Professional released SP2, I think I know a little bit more about
the process than you do.
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"Okay, if the Windows XP CD you have has SP1a (version 2002 on CD) or you
have slipstreamed your drivers, you dont need to make a floppy."

was this staement you made correct or not!
 
for the record I have no idea what slipstreaming is.

Apparently abxzone.com has a great forum, Drives and Controllers, for this
topic. Forums e-mail a password in seconds that you can enter to allow you
to post.

I have a detailed post(s) there by me, kgs, on this subject Feb 27, and I
believe I have ironed out the kinks in my questions, points.

I have not yet tried any other sites regarding THIS topic specifically, any
suggestions?
 
kgs,

I think the other two are a little lost on the topic of the OP (you).

Follow the instructions to make driver install floppies for the drivers you
suspect are needed. Typically a driver floppy will have 4 small files - the
files for the Intel ICH5R are (as an example):

iastor.cat - a "catalog" file
iastor.inf - driver information file
iastor.sys - the driver itself
txtsetup.oem - needed for install

I have found that the correct driver to use can be vague, so if you find you
can create 4 different driver floppies, then create 4 and feed all 4 in
during boot (I suspect 2 at most actually). Recently I was goind a recovery
for someone and found that there were 2 sets of drivers, but only 1 would
work in the raid config - in that case the drivers were the IAA3.5 version
drviers.

The total size of the driver files is ~ 315kb. If you go to the asus
downloads site, you should be able to download these drivers by themselves.

Included for you to install will be Intel Application Accelerator version
3.5.0.2568 (?) or perhaps later / earlier.

IAA is the Windows management interface for the RAID config.

To begin setup, use the SATA boot bios to create the RAID 0 config - Control
I during boot i think.

You may have to go into the bios to enable raid, perhaps set boot to (CD
initially while installing) SCSI and have a ferret around there - sorry
can't help too much, I don't have one in front of me. The key things are:
enable the sata controller, enable raid, check you boot device, check, and
read the manual.

If you then boot off CD, and feed in the drivers by f6 you should be then in
windows setup be able to see the striped raid 0 volume for install. If you
can see that then you should be ok.

As for "MAM" - again I don't have one of these in front of me. Excuse the
other two they seem lost in their own little world :)

Slipstreaming? this is where you take a XP install CD, copy it to disc and
apply the service pack (SP1a) to the the CD image on disc (add in extra
drivers such as your raid drivers) and then write a new XP install CD. Voila
a custom CD with SP1a and your own custom set of drivers installed and no
more need for f6 during setup.

HTH
- Tim
 
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