p3b-f processor support

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I have a P3B-F rev1.03. I am running rev 1008.004 bios. The Asus website
shows that the rev 1.03 board can not run anything more than a 600 MHz
processor. Has anyone tried running a 1.1 Tualatin processor with a slot
adapter on this board. I've looked at the Powerleap, but if I going to
spend that kind of money, I would rather upgrade to a newer board.

Thanks,

Tab
 
"Tab" <[email protected]> said:
I have a P3B-F rev1.03. I am running rev 1008.004 bios. The Asus website
shows that the rev 1.03 board can not run anything more than a 600 MHz
processor. Has anyone tried running a 1.1 Tualatin processor with a slot
adapter on this board. I've looked at the Powerleap, but if I going to
spend that kind of money, I would rather upgrade to a newer board.

Thanks,

Tab
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The prices for the Powerleap are:

"1.0 GHz now only $99.95
1.4 GHz now only $119.95"

With an upgrade, the RAM type will change, so you will need a new
CPU, new RAM, a new motherboard (and likely a new power supply, to
give enough power and also to give you a 2x2 +12V power connector).
An upgrade would be much more expensive.

Your motherboard options are the last entry in the table on this
page:

http://homepage.hispeed.ch/rscheidegger/p2b_procupgrade_faq.html

If I'm reading that table correctly, your motherboard can produce
Vcore voltages below 1.8V, and that will be suitable for powering
the 1.5V the Tualatin requires. A cheap Upgradeware Slot-T and a
Tualatin is then a viable option.

The main problem now, will be finding a vendor who is still
selling these processors. That is one advantage of the Powerleap
solution - as time passes, the Powerleap is an easier way to
get a processor chip.

HTH,
Paul
 
I have a P3B-F rev1.03. I am running rev 1008.004 bios. The Asus website
shows that the rev 1.03 board can not run anything more than a 600 MHz
processor. Has anyone tried running a 1.1 Tualatin processor with a slot
adapter on this board. I've looked at the Powerleap, but if I going to
spend that kind of money, I would rather upgrade to a newer board.

Thanks,

Tab
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Yeah, you can still do things with them, but now is the time to jump
to an athlon cpu and nforce2 motherboard cheap. For the money you
spend on the cubx, you can do much better with a new cpu/motherboard.
Good, fast, mature, and cheap.

http://www.anandtech.com/guides/showdoc.html?i=2001&p=2

I wouldn't bother spending any more money on a BX motherboard. Frankly
there isn't THAT much difference between a 600mhz and a 1Ghz BX. If
you get it up to 1.4G tualatin, the performance starts to impress, but
it's an expensive and minimal dead end with NO AGP 8x, USB2,
firewire, SATA, 400Mhz FSB, sound, and LAN thrown in for free.
 
Tab said:
I have a P3B-F rev1.03. I am running rev 1008.004 bios. The Asus website
shows that the rev 1.03 board can not run anything more than a 600 MHz
processor.
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In most cases, however, a P3B-F rev. 1.01 or higher will run Coppermines
just fine, just as a Tualatin Celeron with Slot-T or similar.

Stephan
 
Yeah, you can still do things with them, but now is the time to jump
to an athlon cpu and nforce2 motherboard cheap. For the money you
spend on the cubx, you can do much better with a new cpu/motherboard.
Good, fast, mature, and cheap.

http://www.anandtech.com/guides/showdoc.html?i=2001&p=2

I wouldn't bother spending any more money on a BX motherboard. Frankly
there isn't THAT much difference between a 600mhz and a 1Ghz BX. If
you get it up to 1.4G tualatin, the performance starts to impress, but
it's an expensive and minimal dead end with NO AGP 8x, USB2,
firewire, SATA, 400Mhz FSB, sound, and LAN thrown in for free.
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On a purely price/performance/functionality basis, I completely agree.

However, if you place a high value on stability and don't need the added
functionality now or in the medium term, upgrading a BX to Tualatin is
still a reasonable investment - especially if you can get to 133Mhz FSB
without replacing the RAM or video. IMHO now is not the time to buy a
new ATX mobo if there's an upgrade path for your existing board which
provides the required attributes - BTX is here.

It really depends on your computing needs - all my P2Bs have one or two
Tualatins @ 1.5Ghz, 60MB/s SCSI disks, and GF4 video. I probably won't
*need* to upgrade for a year or more, but it's going to be expensive
when the time comes...

P2B
 
im running a PIII 800 on that board but its my understanding thats as high
as it will go.
using an adapter for voltage purposes.
 
Jake said:
im running a PIII 800 on that board but its my understanding thats as high
as it will go.
using an adapter for voltage purposes.
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I have a (dead) P3B-F 1.03. here. The voltage regulator chip is a
HIP6020ACB, which can supply the lower voltages required by Tualatin
processors. The clock chip must have been an ICS9250-08 (150Mhz capable)
because it's gone, and I wouldn't have bothered to transplant a slow
clock chip :-)

Assuming your 1.03. board has the same voltage regulator, you can run
any Tualatin Celeron (or P3, but they are expensive) on a cheap Slot-T
adapter, no need for a Powerleap - but then SDRAM becomes the bottleneck
so you want to maximise FSB.

Almost all BX chipsets are stable at 140Mhz FSB, and many will do 150Mhz
- especially the later steppings. My favourite Tualatin for BX boards is
the Celeron 1.0AGhz because it's cheap and usually overclocks to 1.5Ghz
on default voltage (but you need PC150 SDRAM), and always overclocks to
1.4Ghz with good quality PC133. Needless to say 140Mhz x 10 performs
much better than 100Mhz x 14 (1.4 Ghz Celeron at stock speed).

P2B
 
They did make and sold, a Slot1 1GHz P3 @ 100MHz. I had no problems running
it on my P3B-F. I gave that PC away 2 years ago, with the CPU still kicking
strong in it.

But good luck finding one now.
 
Sept1967 said:
They did make and sold, a Slot1 1GHz P3 @ 100MHz. I had no problems running
it on my P3B-F. I gave that PC away 2 years ago, with the CPU still kicking
strong in it.

But good luck finding one now.
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No problem, http://www.starmicro.net

Only $399 each!

A Tualatin Celeron and Slot-T would give better performance for 20% of
that price.
 
Thanks for all the great advice. I ordered a Slot-T and a 1.1GHz Tualatin
processor. $70 total. I really was wanting a new MoBo and processor, but
wasn't thrilled with what I could get for what I could afford. If I can
squeeze a few more years out of my P3B-F, I'll then be in a position where I
can build my dream machine. I think this upgrade will do the trick.

Again thanks,

Tab
 
Tab said:
Thanks for all the great advice. I ordered a Slot-T and a 1.1GHz Tualatin
processor. $70 total. I really was wanting a new MoBo and processor, but
wasn't thrilled with what I could get for what I could afford. If I can
squeeze a few more years out of my P3B-F, I'll then be in a position where I
can build my dream machine. I think this upgrade will do the trick.

Again thanks,

Tab
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Glad to help. I'm sure you'll be pleased with the price/performance of
that upgrade - and you know where to come if any issues arise during
installation.

P2B
 
This is exactly what I got a while ago. Running fine (thanks to P2B) on my
P2B rev.1.10
with 2 sticks of 256 Crucial PC133.
No problem at all.
Very nice and stable machine.
 
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