Outlook SMTP server problem

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Up until I moved to college I used outlook to send and receive email
from my att/yahoo account. Now that I have moved into my dorm and am
on the dormnet network I can no longer use the att smtp server. The IT
people here say that they do not have an SMTP server. So does this
mean that I can't send email through outlook while I am here?
 
Does the Yahoo SMTP server allow you to do authenicated sending? My ISP
allows me to use their SMTP server off-network as long as I authenticate.
 
Up until I moved to college I used outlook to send and receive email
from my att/yahoo account. Now that I have moved into my dorm and am
on the dormnet network I can no longer use the att smtp server. The
IT
people here say that they do not have an SMTP server. So does this
mean that I can't send email through outlook while I am here?
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You are attempting to access an SMTP server from off their domain;
i.e., to the network with the SMTP server, you are off-domain. You
have not proven that you have rights to use their resources because
you are not authenticated on their domain. The owner of the SMTP
server requires you prove you are allowed to use their resources to
prevent abuse by spammers. In the SMTP setup in your e-mail client,
authenticate to the SMTP server.

For info on off-domain port 25 (SMTP) traffic blocked to thwart spam
from spamming or infected customers, read:

http://www.commercestreet.com/Blocking_Port_25.htm
http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/mail/pop/pop-38.html

http://www.postcastserver.com/help/Port_25_Blocking.aspx
http://www.aota.net/Troubleshooting/port25.php4
http://www.spamhaus.org/faq/answers.lasso?section=ISP Spam Issues...
http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_zdewk/is_200406/ai_ziff129473

http://www.google.com/search?q=+block++"port+25"++SMTP++spam
 
Does the Yahoo SMTP server allow you to do authenicated sending? My ISP
allows me to use their SMTP server off-network as long as I authenticate.






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No, it all ready has authenticated checked...
 
You are attempting to access an SMTP server from off their domain;
i.e., to the network with the SMTP server, you are off-domain. You
have not proven that you have rights to use their resources because
you are not authenticated on their domain. The owner of the SMTP
server requires you prove you are allowed to use their resources to
prevent abuse by spammers. In the SMTP setup in your e-mail client,
authenticate to the SMTP server.

For info on off-domain port 25 (SMTP) traffic blocked to thwart spam
from spamming or infected customers, read:

http://www.commercestreet.com/Blocking_Port_25.htmhttp://help.yahoo.com/help/us/mail/pop/pop-38.html

http://www.postcastserver.com/help/...m/p/articles/mi_zdewk/is_200406/ai_ziff129473

http://www.google.com/search?q=+block++"port+25"++SMTP++spam
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I understand that they don't want me using their server because I am
not connected to their network. Is there any way around this? Is there
another server that is public use? I don't really know, I am just
throwing ideas out.

Thanks for all of your help
 
In case you can't pull up the article, here's a copy (look at the SMTP port
trick near the end). If that still doesn't work, I think your college
network is preventing the connection.

The AT&T Yahoo! Mail SMTP server requires authentication. To learn how to
configure your email application, please choose from the following supported
applications:

* Outlook 2002 (XP) and 2003
* Outlook 98 and 2000
* Microsoft Outlook Express
* Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh
* Entourage 2001 and higher
* Eudora 5.1 and higher
* IncrediMail build 618 and higher
* Netscape Mail - All Versions

Please make sure that you've entered your AT&T Yahoo! Mail address as the
"From" address in your email client. You won't be able to send mail if
you've entered another address.

If you have the Norton AntiVirus email feature enabled, you might have to do
additional configuration to use Outlook or Outlook Express. For more
information, please visit the Symantec web site.

If you've tried the above steps and continue to have problems, your ISP
might not allow its users to send messages with other companies' SMTP
outgoing mail servers.

If you're unable to send email, try using port 587 when sending via Yahoo!'s
SMTP server. Here's how to make this change:

1. From the "Tools" menu, select "Accounts."
2. Select your Yahoo! POP account and click the "Properties" button.
3. Click the "Advanced" tab.
4. Next to "Outgoing server (SMTP"), change port 25 to 587.
5. Click "Apply." Then click "OK" and "Close."
 
I understand that they don't want me using their server because I am
not connected to their network. Is there any way around this? Is there
another server that is public use? I don't really know, I am just
throwing ideas out.
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These days it has become completely impractical to run an MTA (mail transfer
authority) that permits the public free use as a relay. To publically
advertise one even minimally would be tantamount to donating a server along
with a ton of bandwidth to spammers, they use-up open realys like there's no
tomorrow!

Even if you found one, the ant-spam vigilantes would blacklist it before
long. (Sometimes I can't decide whether it's the spammers, or the anti-spam
vigilantes that are the biggest bunch of a-holes... they both suck!)

In any case, the registrar I use (www.domainsmadeeasy.com) offers free email
service with every domain registration (or they'll sell it to you for
$9.99/year, but it costs less to register a domain.) The free email
includes a 25MB POP3 plus a login to their SMTP server that allows 250
outbound emails per day. Their SMTP servers listen to the standard port 25,
as well as a few other non-standard ports, so people on networks with port
25 firewalled (e.g., Cox residential Internet service) can still use it.
There may be other lower cost options out there... this one works for me
though.

-Mark
 
mhartley101 wrote in message
I understand that they don't want me using their server because I am
not connected to their network. Is there any way around this?
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You've been told how by both me and Vince, which was authenticate to
their SMTP server. Try not using the option to reuse the POP3 login
credentials and instead specify them separately (but specify the same
ones as for the POP3 login).

Also check with your IT dept. to ensure they are not blocking port 25
(SMTP) traffic from crossing and leaving their domain. They may not
provide their own SMTP server but maybe they still block access to an
off-domain SMTP server.

If Yahoo permits a port other than 25 to connect to their SMTP server,
try that. If off-domain port 25 traffic is blocked by your network,
maybe they don't block it on other ports supported by Yahoo's SMTP
server.
 
mhartley101 wrote in message










You've been told how by both me and Vince, which was authenticate to
their SMTP server. Try not using the option to reuse the POP3 login
credentials and instead specify them separately (but specify the same
ones as for the POP3 login).

Also check with your IT dept. to ensure they are not blocking port 25
(SMTP) traffic from crossing and leaving their domain. They may not
provide their own SMTP server but maybe they still block access to an
off-domain SMTP server.

If Yahoo permits a port other than 25 to connect to their SMTP server,
try that. If off-domain port 25 traffic is blocked by your network,
maybe they don't block it on other ports supported by Yahoo's SMTP
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Yahoo says to use port 465 w/ssl. I have tried that, 25 and 587 w/ no
luck.
 
Yahoo says to use port 465 w/ssl. I have tried that, 25 and 587 w/
no
luck.
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Time to show us the actual error message you get when attempting to
send an e-mail. Don't describe it. Show it.

Do you still have an account with AT&T (so you still are authorized to
use their e-mail service)?
 
Time to show us the actual error message you get when attempting to
send an e-mail. Don't describe it. Show it.

Do you still have an account with AT&T (so you still are authorized to
use their e-mail service)?- Hide quoted text -

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i40.photobucket.com/albums/e207/MrRoboto7575/errormessage.jpg"
border="0" alt="Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket"></a>

Yes, I am still an ATT Yahoo subscriber.
 
<a href="http://photobucket.com" target="_blank"><img src="http://
i40.photobucket.com/albums/e207/MrRoboto7575/errormessage.jpg"
border="0" alt="Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket"></a>
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Had to guess that what you meant to show was the URL buried the HTML
code that you copied, so I looked at:

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e207/MrRoboto7575/errormessage.jpg

You are trying to send a test message. I've never relied on Outlook's
test message since it doesn't fully exercise the POP3/SMTP setup under
a legitimate environment. Send yourself a real message; i.e., send an
e-mail to your own e-mail address and then use the webmail interface
to your account to check that it arrived (unless Outlook yanked it
already).

"Server not found" in the test message means you are not using the
valid IP name or IP address for the SMTP mail host. Since you didn't
send yourself a real message to then show the error dialog and its
message, I don't know to which mail host your Outlook tried to
connect.

The e-mail account defined in Outlook defines to which mail hosts for
POP3 and SMTP that Outlook will connect. Looks like you do not have
valid names specified for the mail hosts.
 
Had to guess that what you meant to show was the URL buried the HTML
code that you copied, so I looked at:

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e207/MrRoboto7575/errormessage.jpg

You are trying to send a test message. I've never relied on Outlook's
test message since it doesn't fully exercise the POP3/SMTP setup under
a legitimate environment. Send yourself a real message; i.e., send an
e-mail to your own e-mail address and then use the webmail interface
to your account to check that it arrived (unless Outlook yanked it
already).

"Server not found" in the test message means you are not using the
valid IP name or IP address for the SMTP mail host. Since you didn't
send yourself a real message to then show the error dialog and its
message, I don't know to which mail host your Outlook tried to
connect.

The e-mail account defined in Outlook defines to which mail hosts for
POP3 and SMTP that Outlook will connect. Looks like you do not have
valid names specified for the mail hosts.
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http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e207/MrRoboto7575/error.jpg
 
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