outlook email headers

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Is there a way we could edit the outlook (xp) email
headers just before an email is sent?
Or, is there a way to make changes to these headers
permanently?
Is there a way of always getting a full header view in
the preview window?
 
You want to change the header before a message is send??? The header is
created WHEN you send.

Planning to SPAM? :-S
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Actually it doesn't occur only when spamming. The sender might like to
insert, say, an X header. If someone ever complains about their
message, the X header might indicate if that sender did indeed send it
(for example, Hotmail looks for the X-Originating-IP header to determine
if an e-mail actually came from a Hotmail account). It may be more
convenient to use a non-standard special-use header so the recipient can
identify your e-mails on which they can use rules to identify and
process rather than using something like a passcode in the name portion
of the To header or in the Subject or body.

Normally it is the mail server that inserts any additional headers into
the DATA sent to it. Even if the spammer is stupid enough to think that
they can edit or insert bogus Received headers, the mail server will
still insert its own Received headers. So when tracing through the
Received header, you skip the bogus one when walking through the "by"
and "from" servers. Any need to insert special-use headers into the
outbound e-mails is usually handled by the mail server.

Since anonymous is posting in an Outlook newsgroup, no, Outlook will not
let you modify the headers included in the user's data sent in the DATA
command to the mail server. If you are using Outlook as your e-mail
client then you really have no need to be modifying the headers. And
since anonymous didn't even bother to give themself a personal handle
under which to post his/her message and since anonymous never bothered
to reveal what their intent was, Roady's assumption that anonymous is a
spammer is probably right on. Sneak around like a spammer and that's
how you get perceived.
 
Hé Vanguard,

Thanks for the added info!

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Planning to SPAM? :-S
If you think that control over your system is spamming,
YES!
What i want is to get rid of some headers actually used
only by outlook!
Have you ever seen what you can do on a simple linux
system with a simple email client?
Anyways, thanks for answering
 
Additionaly,
what is wrong in having the whole package of headers
displayed in the header-area of the preview window??
I think this should be a choice for the user...
 
And since anonymous didn't even bother to give themself
a personal handle
under which to post his/her message and since anonymous never bothered
to reveal what their intent was, Roady's assumption that anonymous is a
spammer is probably right on. Sneak around like a spammer and that's
how you get perceived.
Click to expand...

Hey people, hold your horses!!!
The question was simple enough and nothing else should
arise. But since i have to make myself clear let me add a
few words. My problem is with every piece of software
taking decisions for me without asking! I am a windows,
office and outlook user since their birth! But i am also
a pre-windows user and programmer and would never
sacrifise real control over my system for its usability
(the user-friendly term often walks wrong paths).
Anyway, what i realised is that outlook adds a few
headers for its own personal use. You want an example?:
One of my friends is using a linux system and sents
emails using a standard linux email client. He is able to
add the following line in the headers (between quotes):
"X-message-flag: Dear Outlook user: Please remove me from
your address book"
When i receive his email, in the gray-header-area of the
preview window, i get this very phrase as a highlighted
message.
This is how it all started... A linux user can send my
outlook client a message and a cannot even block it. Seen
from the opposite side, a linux user can edit outlook-
readable headers and i cannot!!!

So, what if i (as you pointed out) want to add a standard
X-type proprietory header. What the various involved
servers would do to that header is really not a subject
of my question.
Since anonymous is posting in an Outlook newsgroup, no, Outlook will not
let you modify the headers included in the user's data sent in the DATA
command to the mail server.
Click to expand...

Ok. Thank you. This answer would be enough!!!!!!!!!!!!

PS. And since you people seem to have problems with
anonymous posting, well, my name is George and i could
give you my email to contact me personally!
 
Outlook is really geared to be an end-user tool, not a low-level mail
programming, debugging, or techie's tool. Similarly, Word is geared to
the user creating the document rather than letting them edit the
proprietary raw code. Products oriented to end-users will have a
different and more limited feature set than those oriented to
programmability or alteration. Do Eudora or Pegasus e-mail clients let
the user modify what headers get included and their values? Unix
programs often get thwarted and misused because often the code is
provided and you're not considered a power *nixie unless you know how to
script or code. Any product distributed with source code can be
modified for abuse. Apparently that is what you friend has done (or
simply used someone else's effort to use a MUA that allow them to edit
the headers placed in the data sent during DATA command for SMTP).
 
Actually there are many Outlook users that would like an option to
easily include the list of headers, but in a Preview pane the problem is
that you wouldn't get to see the message until you scrolled all the way
past the headers and most end-users aren't going to understand all the
headers, anyway. Outlook is oriented towards an end-user market whose
primary interest in e-mails is the messages they contain, not how they
were routed. You can see the headers (View -> Options or right-click on
the e-mail item and choose Options), it's just not a toggle button.
Power users are not the majority of users and the feature set reflects
that. You should send your request to
http://register.microsoft.com/contactus30/contactus.asp?domain=generic
so you become one more voice to those requesting such a feature.
Microsoft won't heed nor even know about requests for enhancements
posted in newsgroups.
 
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