Outlook and Newgroups

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Sam Bench

I am using Outlook 2003. It works great for email. However, when I tried
to set it up for newsgroups I encountered a strange problem. The help
screen told me to do the following:
1.. On the Standard toolbar (toolbar: A bar with buttons and options that
you use to carry out commands. To display a toolbar, press ALT and then
SHIFT+F10.), click the Toolbar Options arrow .
2.. Point to Add or Remove Buttons, and then click Customize.
3.. Click the Commands tab.
4.. In the Categories list, click Go.
5.. In the Commands list, click News, and drag it, without releasing the
mouse, until it rests over the Go menu. When the menu displays a list of
commands, point to where you want the command to appear, and then release
the mouse.
In the Commands list the News option is not there!! Anyone know what to do
now!

Thanks.
 
Sam Bench said:
I am using Outlook 2003. It works great for email. However, when I tried
to set it up for newsgroups I encountered a strange problem. The help
screen told me to do the following:
1.. On the Standard toolbar (toolbar: A bar with buttons and options that
you use to carry out commands. To display a toolbar, press ALT and then
SHIFT+F10.), click the Toolbar Options arrow .
2.. Point to Add or Remove Buttons, and then click Customize.
3.. Click the Commands tab.
4.. In the Categories list, click Go.
5.. In the Commands list, click News, and drag it, without releasing the
mouse, until it rests over the Go menu. When the menu displays a list of
commands, point to where you want the command to appear, and then release
the mouse.
In the Commands list the News option is not there!! Anyone know what to
do now!

Thanks.
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Hi Sam

As far as I know you can only use outlook express for news groups

Steve
 
As far as I know you can only use outlook express for news groups
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There are *many* programs you can use for Newsgroups. Outlook Express
is one of them. Outlook, as you point out, is not.
 
To get the News command back, go back to the Programs tab in Control Panel |
Internet Options and change the default newsreader to Outlook Express. If
OE prompts you to make it your default newsreader the next time you launch
it, clear the "Always perform this check..." box and then click the No
button.

You may need to reset the Menu Bar and/or restart Outlook and/or reboot your
machine in order to complete the process. Not everyone is reporting success
with this method, but try it and see what happens. If all else fails, you
can always create a desktop shortcut to Outlook Express and include the
/outnews switch -- that gives you the same result as accessing the
newsreader via the News command in Outlook.


--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
reading.

After furious head scratching, Sam Bench asked:

| I am using Outlook 2003. It works great for email. However, when I
| tried to set it up for newsgroups I encountered a strange problem.
| The help screen told me to do the following:
| 1.. On the Standard toolbar (toolbar: A bar with buttons and options
| that you use to carry out commands. To display a toolbar, press ALT
| and then SHIFT+F10.), click the Toolbar Options arrow .
| 2.. Point to Add or Remove Buttons, and then click Customize.
| 3.. Click the Commands tab.
| 4.. In the Categories list, click Go.
| 5.. In the Commands list, click News, and drag it, without releasing
| the mouse, until it rests over the Go menu. When the menu displays a
| list of commands, point to where you want the command to appear, and
| then release the mouse.
| In the Commands list the News option is not there!! Anyone know what
| to do now!
|
| Thanks.
 
To get the News command back, go back to the Programs tab in Control Panel |
Internet Options and change the default newsreader to Outlook Express. If
OE prompts you to make it your default newsreader the next time you launch
it, clear the "Always perform this check..." box and then click the No
button.

You may need to reset the Menu Bar and/or restart Outlook and/or reboot your
machine in order to complete the process. Not everyone is reporting success
with this method, but try it and see what happens. If all else fails, you
can always create a desktop shortcut to Outlook Express and include the
/outnews switch -- that gives you the same result as accessing the
newsreader via the News command in Outlook.

--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
reading.

After furious head scratching, Sam Bench asked:

| I am using Outlook 2003. It works great for email. However, when I
| tried to set it up for newsgroups I encountered a strange problem.
| The help screen told me to do the following:
| 1.. On the Standard toolbar (toolbar: A bar with buttons and options
| that you use to carry out commands. To display a toolbar, press ALT
| and then SHIFT+F10.), click the Toolbar Options arrow .
| 2.. Point to Add or Remove Buttons, and then click Customize.
| 3.. Click the Commands tab.
| 4.. In the Categories list, click Go.
| 5.. In the Commands list, click News, and drag it, without releasing
| the mouse, until it rests over the Go menu. When the menu displays a
| list of commands, point to where you want the command to appear, and
| then release the mouse.
| In the Commands list the News option is not there!! Anyone know what
| to do now!
|
| Thanks.
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why outlook 2003 is not for newsgroups??
v--------------
http://www.myonlinedream.net
 
Outlook has never been and never will be a news reader. For reasons, search
the group. The topic has been beaten to death.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
Elakbar said:
To get the News command back, go back to the Programs tab in Control
Panel |
Internet Options and change the default newsreader to Outlook Express.
If
OE prompts you to make it your default newsreader the next time you
launch
it, clear the "Always perform this check..." box and then click the No
button.

You may need to reset the Menu Bar and/or restart Outlook and/or reboot
your
machine in order to complete the process. Not everyone is reporting
success
with this method, but try it and see what happens. If all else fails,
you
can always create a desktop shortcut to Outlook Express and include the
/outnews switch -- that gives you the same result as accessing the
newsreader via the News command in Outlook.

--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
reading.

After furious head scratching, Sam Bench asked:

| I am using Outlook 2003. It works great for email. However, when I
| tried to set it up for newsgroups I encountered a strange problem.
| The help screen told me to do the following:
| 1.. On the Standard toolbar (toolbar: A bar with buttons and options
| that you use to carry out commands. To display a toolbar, press ALT
| and then SHIFT+F10.), click the Toolbar Options arrow .
| 2.. Point to Add or Remove Buttons, and then click Customize.
| 3.. Click the Commands tab.
| 4.. In the Categories list, click Go.
| 5.. In the Commands list, click News, and drag it, without releasing
| the mouse, until it rests over the Go menu. When the menu displays a
| list of commands, point to where you want the command to appear, and
| then release the mouse.
| In the Commands list the News option is not there!! Anyone know what
| to do now!
|
| Thanks.
Click to expand...

why outlook 2003 is not for newsgroups??
v--------------
http://www.myonlinedream.net
Click to expand...
 
Kind of interesting, Milly.

I did what you suggested and sure enough News suddenly appeared as an
option. I moved it to the Go button and it appeared in the Go menu. I
thought I was home free. I clicked News in the Go menu and sure enough the
news viewer opened. Once!! After a single use it disappeared again.

You would think that the richest man in the world would produce software
that wasn't this buggy. I would be embarrassed if any software I wrote had
a flaw like this. I guess I will have to use something other than Outlook
as my news viewer.


"Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]"
To get the News command back, go back to the Programs tab in Control Panel |
Internet Options and change the default newsreader to Outlook Express. If
OE prompts you to make it your default newsreader the next time you launch
it, clear the "Always perform this check..." box and then click the No
button.

You may need to reset the Menu Bar and/or restart Outlook and/or reboot your
machine in order to complete the process. Not everyone is reporting success
with this method, but try it and see what happens. If all else fails, you
can always create a desktop shortcut to Outlook Express and include the
/outnews switch -- that gives you the same result as accessing the
newsreader via the News command in Outlook.


--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
reading.

After furious head scratching, Sam Bench asked:

| I am using Outlook 2003. It works great for email. However, when I
| tried to set it up for newsgroups I encountered a strange problem.
| The help screen told me to do the following:
| 1.. On the Standard toolbar (toolbar: A bar with buttons and options
| that you use to carry out commands. To display a toolbar, press ALT
| and then SHIFT+F10.), click the Toolbar Options arrow .
| 2.. Point to Add or Remove Buttons, and then click Customize.
| 3.. Click the Commands tab.
| 4.. In the Categories list, click Go.
| 5.. In the Commands list, click News, and drag it, without releasing
| the mouse, until it rests over the Go menu. When the menu displays a
| list of commands, point to where you want the command to appear, and
| then release the mouse.
| In the Commands list the News option is not there!! Anyone know what
| to do now!
|
| Thanks.
 
You are using Outlook Express called from Outlook to read news. As for Mr. Gates, I doubt he has programmed anything since Altair Basic. He is a businessman, not a programmer.

As to your problem, did you make the default programs as instructed in the Internet Options of IE?

--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
reading.

After furious head scratching, Sam Bench asked:

| Kind of interesting, Milly.
|
| I did what you suggested and sure enough News suddenly appeared as an
| option. I moved it to the Go button and it appeared in the Go menu.
| I thought I was home free. I clicked News in the Go menu and sure
| enough the news viewer opened. Once!! After a single use it
| disappeared again.
|
| You would think that the richest man in the world would produce
| software that wasn't this buggy. I would be embarrassed if any
| software I wrote had a flaw like this. I guess I will have to use
| something other than Outlook as my news viewer.
|
|
| "Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]"
| | To get the News command back, go back to the Programs tab in Control
| Panel | Internet Options and change the default newsreader to Outlook
| Express. If OE prompts you to make it your default newsreader the
| next time you launch it, clear the "Always perform this check..." box
| and then click the No button.
|
| You may need to reset the Menu Bar and/or restart Outlook and/or
| reboot your machine in order to complete the process. Not everyone
| is reporting success with this method, but try it and see what
| happens. If all else fails, you can always create a desktop shortcut
| to Outlook Express and include the /outnews switch -- that gives you
| the same result as accessing the newsreader via the News command in
| Outlook.
|
|
| --
| Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
|
| Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
| unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
| reading.
|
| After furious head scratching, Sam Bench asked:
|
|| I am using Outlook 2003. It works great for email. However, when I
|| tried to set it up for newsgroups I encountered a strange problem.
|| The help screen told me to do the following:
|| 1.. On the Standard toolbar (toolbar: A bar with buttons and options
|| that you use to carry out commands. To display a toolbar, press ALT
|| and then SHIFT+F10.), click the Toolbar Options arrow .
|| 2.. Point to Add or Remove Buttons, and then click Customize.
|| 3.. Click the Commands tab.
|| 4.. In the Categories list, click Go.
|| 5.. In the Commands list, click News, and drag it, without releasing
|| the mouse, until it rests over the Go menu. When the menu displays a
|| list of commands, point to where you want the command to appear, and
|| then release the mouse.
|| In the Commands list the News option is not there!! Anyone know what
|| to do now!
||
|| Thanks.
 
I did what you suggested and sure enough News suddenly appeared as an
option. I moved it to the Go button and it appeared in the Go menu. I
thought I was home free. I clicked News in the Go menu and sure enough the
news viewer opened. Once!! After a single use it disappeared again.

You would think that the richest man in the world would produce software
that wasn't this buggy. I would be embarrassed if any software I wrote had
a flaw like this. I guess I will have to use something other than Outlook
as my news viewer.
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What program you use to read newsgroups is of course up to you, but
the lack of a news button in Outlook seems like a very silly way to
make the choice.

If you choose Agent as your newsreader, for example, instead of
Outlook Express (which is what the Outlook News button gives you), you
*still* won't have the news button.
 
Ken,

I recently started to use Outlook at home. I have used it for years at
work. I am used to Outlook Express at home. It has the news and email
integrated so that I have both readily at hand. I was hoping to configure
Outlook in a similar way so that I don't have to open another program when I
want to look at newsgroups.

Thanks for your input.
 
Sam Bench said:
I recently started to use Outlook at home. I have used it for years
at work. I am used to Outlook Express at home. It has the news and
email integrated so that I have both readily at hand. I was hoping
to configure Outlook in a similar way so that I don't have to open
another program when I want to look at newsgroups.
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There are NNTP transports you can buy that integrate with Outlook to make
newsgroups available directly. See this, for example:
http://www.mapilab.com/outlook/nntp/
 
You also have this

http://www.shorelinesoftware.com/screenshots.htm

--
Peter

Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others
Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged.

Sam Bench said:
Ken,

I recently started to use Outlook at home. I have used it for years at
work. I am used to Outlook Express at home. It has the news and email
integrated so that I have both readily at hand. I was hoping to configure
Outlook in a similar way so that I don't have to open another program when I
want to look at newsgroups.

Thanks for your input.
Click to expand...
 
Ken,

I recently started to use Outlook at home. I have used it for years at
work. I am used to Outlook Express at home. It has the news and email
integrated so that I have both readily at hand. I was hoping to configure
Outlook in a similar way so that I don't have to open another program when I
want to look at newsgroups.

Thanks for your input.
Click to expand...


Two points:

1. As I intimated below, Outlook does *not* do newsgroups. What
reports itself as the Outlook Newsreader is nothing but Outlook
Express running in newsonly mode. If your E-mail client is Outlook,
there is no way you can avoid opening a second program to do
newsgroups.

2. Although it's a common point of view, I've never understood the
desire to have a single program do both mail and news. To me they are
completely separate functions, and there's no particular reason why
one should expect, or want, Outlook to be a newsreader. To me it's no
different from expecting Word or Excel to read news.

 
here is a list of the available apps that will allow news in outlook:
http://www.outlook-tips.net/howto/news.htm










** Please include your Outlook version, Account type, and Windows Version
when requesting assistance **

Sam Bench said:
Ken,

I recently started to use Outlook at home. I have used it for years at
work. I am used to Outlook Express at home. It has the news and email
integrated so that I have both readily at hand. I was hoping to configure
Outlook in a similar way so that I don't have to open another program when
I want to look at newsgroups.

Thanks for your input.
Click to expand...
 
2. Although it's a common point of view, I've never understood the
desire to have a single program do both mail and news. To me they are
completely separate functions, and there's no particular reason why
one should expect, or want, Outlook to be a newsreader. To me it's no
different from expecting Word or Excel to read news.
Click to expand...

I don't agree. Newsgroups have the same feel and usage as email. I very
much prefer to have one program to handle email and news. I don't think
your analogy is correct. It'd be like someone wanting two different
programs to handle .DOC and .RTF files.
 
I don't agree. Newsgroups have the same feel and usage as email. I very
much prefer to have one program to handle email and news. I don't think
your analogy is correct. It'd be like someone wanting two different
programs to handle .DOC and .RTF files.
Click to expand...


As I said, that's the way *I* feel about. I'm well aware that many
people disagree.
 
I use newsgator in OL 2007 and with Vista and 2 gigs ram it works great.

Windows XP and 512 megs was a little sluggish. Also just an opinion, however it is backed by a lot of daily usage.

nntp://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.outlook/<[email protected]>

I don't agree. Newsgroups have the same feel and usage as email. I very
much prefer to have one program to handle email and news. I don't think
your analogy is correct. It'd be like someone wanting two different
programs to handle .DOC and .RTF files.
Click to expand...

--
John Mayson <[email protected]>
Austin, Texas, USA


[microsoft.public.outlook]
 
The thing that I like about Using Outlook for e-mail and Outlook Express,
sorry I'm now using Windows Mail. You can jump back and forth without
loosing your place. Such a time saver...
Ken Blake said:
Ken,

I recently started to use Outlook at home. I have used it for years at
work. I am used to Outlook Express at home. It has the news and email
integrated so that I have both readily at hand. I was hoping to configure
Outlook in a similar way so that I don't have to open another program when
I
want to look at newsgroups.

Thanks for your input.
Click to expand...


Two points:

1. As I intimated below, Outlook does *not* do newsgroups. What
reports itself as the Outlook Newsreader is nothing but Outlook
Express running in newsonly mode. If your E-mail client is Outlook,
there is no way you can avoid opening a second program to do
newsgroups.

2. Although it's a common point of view, I've never understood the
desire to have a single program do both mail and news. To me they are
completely separate functions, and there's no particular reason why
one should expect, or want, Outlook to be a newsreader. To me it's no
different from expecting Word or Excel to read news.
Click to expand...
 
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