Outlook 2003 Issues

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David Boles

Hi there --

I have had Outlook 2003 hooked up for a day now and there are several issues
that leap out at me.

1). With JUNK EMAIL set to HIGH or RESTRICTED settings the first message
that is highlighted when I click on the INBOX or the JUNK folder is
automatically deleted when using IMAP before I click on it. Any idea why?
It's annyoing! SMILE!

2). Why can't I CTRL+A my INBOX (or any folder!) and then RIGHT CLICK and
choose to mark it all JUNK? It seems I need to RIGHT CLICK on each message
to send it to Junk and that takes forever.

3). Is there a way to force Outlook to delete the deleted IMAP messages
from the server when exiting? I hate having to pull down FILE|DELETE
messagaes every time when live in the folder. Why can't DELETE deleted
messages be a right click sticky menu option?

I thank you.

db
 
1) The selection automatically goes to the top item in the folder. Once it's selected, Outlook downloads the item. If Outlook thinks it's spam, Outlook then moves it to your Junk E-mail folder. Which selects the next message ... which downloads ... etc.

2) Because the messages are not all downloaded yet. Just delete them. You don't need to send them to junk.

3) No, unfortunately. Send your suggestions to (e-mail address removed). I don't think they hear from enough IMAP users.
--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Outlook and Exchange solutions at http://www.slipstick.com
Author of
Microsoft Outlook Programming: Jumpstart
for Administrators, Power Users, and Developers
 
Hi Sue --

Thanks for the information.

So Outlook 2003 downloads messages into my IMAP inbox. Then it decides it
is Junk and deletes the message AND THEN MOVES IT TO THE JUNK FOLDER which
means I ultimately have to choose EDIT|DELETE messages for my Inbox and my
Junk folder for the same message? I don't understand the rational behind
the repetition of the acts.

mswish is a lovely idea but I've never had a response from them in 7 years
of suggesting. I'm sure you have real live MSFT contacts who could better
address the issue. SMILE!

The Junk filter seems feeble. Any ideas for boosting it? Does it learn
what junk is and what it isn't in a Baysean way? If not, are there any
add-ons you might suggest for managing the SPAM beast for IMAP email?

Thanks!

Best,

db


1) The selection automatically goes to the top item in the folder. Once it's
selected, Outlook downloads the item. If Outlook thinks it's spam, Outlook
then moves it to your Junk E-mail folder. Which selects the next message ...
which downloads ... etc.

2) Because the messages are not all downloaded yet. Just delete them. You
don't need to send them to junk.

3) No, unfortunately. Send your suggestions to (e-mail address removed). I don't
think they hear from enough IMAP users.
--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Outlook and Exchange solutions at http://www.slipstick.com
Author of
Microsoft Outlook Programming: Jumpstart
for Administrators, Power Users, and Developers
 
If it were possible to get IMAP folders to empty automatically, it would work great. But alas, that's not a feature in Outlook.

MSwish won't produce a response, but they really do tally the requests.

The junk filter works very well, especially on High, and is based on Microsoft Research's Bayesian work and analysis of of the huge amount of junk coming into Hotmail. There is no learning component.

For IMAP, I've been playing with a bunch of different things, but since the real issue is that Outlook can't work with the message until it's downloaded, you may want to look at service agencies that will filter your mail for you on the server.
--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Outlook and Exchange solutions at http://www.slipstick.com
Author of
Microsoft Outlook Programming: Jumpstart
for Administrators, Power Users, and Developers
 
Hello Sue!

You're always fast and right here and I hope MSFT is sweetening your MVP pot
monthly for all the chits you do for them daily.

1. I want a feature request added for the Outlook MSFTies who read this
that all deleted IMAP mail be deleted upon exit just like you delete the
Deleted Items folder.

2. MSWish should respond to people to take the time to write! It's like
falling into a black hole with no return when you write to them. I wish I
could get away with asking people for feedback and then never responding to
the feedback they give me.

3. The Junk Filter for IMAP is awful. It doesn't work. It puts duplicate
copies of the same message Spam in your Inbox AND your Spam box! So you
actually have to read it twice and delete it twice and, as we've discussed
here before, there is not easy way to delete it with a hotkey combo... you
have to take your hands off the keyboard, grab a mouse and pull down the
EDIT menu to delete the messages. Ugh! Not user friendly! Why it's as if
monkeys programmed the Junk filter! And you know it's monkeys because when
you click to read the Junk in your Inbox, Outlook 2003 deletes it (but
doesn't remove it from your server!) Monkeys at work, I say! Barrelsfull
of monkeys!

4. I am now with lunarpages.com for all my domains and they offer IMAP
email for hosted sites as well as Spam Assassin for all email. I turned on
Spam Assassin, TURNED OFF the Outlook 2003 Junk filter and life is good
again. Spam Assassin works, the Junk Filter does not for IMAP. I don't
think the PR people at WaggEd should be touting the Junk filter as the new
great thing. It isn't.

5. Am I going a bit bonkers or did hitting F5 on Outlook XP and before
force a SEND/RECEIVE mail for all accounts? Now F5 does nothing and it
looks like F9 is what F5 used to be. Any idea what happened and why?

Thanks,

db


If it were possible to get IMAP folders to empty automatically, it would
work great. But alas, that's not a feature in Outlook.

MSwish won't produce a response, but they really do tally the requests.

The junk filter works very well, especially on High, and is based on
Microsoft Research's Bayesian work and analysis of of the huge amount of
junk coming into Hotmail. There is no learning component.

For IMAP, I've been playing with a bunch of different things, but since the
real issue is that Outlook can't work with the message until it's
downloaded, you may want to look at service agencies that will filter your
mail for you on the server.
--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Outlook and Exchange solutions at http://www.slipstick.com
Author of
Microsoft Outlook Programming: Jumpstart
for Administrators, Power Users, and Developers
 
F5 was retained for backward compatibility through Outlook 2002, but in Outlook 2003 it's gone and permanently replaced with F9. Probably has something to do with F5 being used in many places for Refresh.
--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Outlook and Exchange solutions at http://www.slipstick.com
Author of
Microsoft Outlook Programming: Jumpstart
for Administrators, Power Users, and Developers
 
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