OT Req. free email server

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Softhome is selling out, may close down.

Fastmail- free is IMAP, configuration issues with Thunderbird.

Recommend a free US POP3 email server, DUN, that is not too much spam?

Or a link to a discussion of free email servers.

TIA

Mike Sa
 
ms said:
Softhome is selling out, may close down.

Fastmail- free is IMAP, configuration issues with Thunderbird.

Recommend a free US POP3 email server, DUN, that is not too much spam?

Or a link to a discussion of free email servers.

TIA

Mike Sa
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i use unix and VMS shell accounts. some free providers like hotpop are
blackholed by AOL. the unix shells are a pain to setup but often offer
webmail or IMAP4/POP3. i love them.

michael
 
If you are looking for a POP3 email account, as opposed to a server,
Gankaku posted this list recently on the emaildiscussions.com forum:

I've decided to be the keeper of a list of regularly discussed pop
providers. Bluebottle's been having some ups and downs lately just so
you know to expect that. VFEmail/clovermail.net is having a lifetime
special right now. The bandwidth is very limited for their free
account, but the life account for $9 will hold out better for you.
Don't forget to consider Fastmail - it's an IMAP provider, but IMAP
is flexible in the way that items are synced between machines.

Bluebottle.com - 250mb POP/IMAP/SMTP/Web
Fastmail.FM - 10mb IMAP (did you know IMAP is more flexible than
POP?); can change from address; 250kb file storage
Gawab.com - 15mb POP/SMTP/Web
Hotpop.com - 10mb POP/SMTP
Nerdshack.com - 100mb POP/SMTP/Web; not accepting new users

Networld.com - 10 mb POP/IMAP/SMTP/Web;
pop/imap/smtp server : mail.networld.com
account name : account
smtp requires authentication

Promptpost.com - 130mb POP/IMAP/Web; 30mb can be used for file space
SAFe-mail.net - 3mb POP/IMAP/SMTP/web
Swissinfo.org - POP/SMTP/Web; can change from address (but receiver
sees from "real address on behalf of from address")
VFEMail.com or clovermail.net - 15mb POP/IMAP/SMTP/Web; low monthly
15mb bandwidth limit
Xmail.us - 100mb POP/IMAP/SMTP/web; still working on reliability

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stonecypher said:
Hotpop.com - 10mb POP/SMTP
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hotpop is blocked by AOL and may be blocked by other ISPs. this is
likely due to spamming or abuse from that domain. good luck finding a
service that's not on blackhole lists.

i ran a server (FTP/WWW/SMTP/POP3) at home once, but residential ip
addresses are often blocked as well. the solution is expensive
commercial DSL or using someone else's business line as a gateway.

whatever you use, test it against an AOL email address. they have some
of the tightest filters out there.

michael
 
Setting your SMTP server to your ISP's server works...unless you have some
crap ISP that's also being blacklisted.
 
Setting your SMTP server to your ISP's >server works...unless you have some
crap ISP that's also being blacklisted.
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no, i use Earthlink and AOL, which are generally not blackholed. in any event,
relaying off ISP mail servers is often prohibited. so to preserve your email
addy and domain name, you must relay off a T1-type commercial line or like you
said, use the ISP's server which demands using your ISP login name and domain
name. often ISP SMTP servers don't allow arbitrary addys, however Netzero
allowed this a few years ago (you could send fake mail).

believe me i know what i'm talking about. i've configured Ability, Postfix,
and Sendmail among others. Blackhole lists are due the dynamic / residential
nature of the IP address and not to some sub-standard characteristic of the
internet service provider.

anyway, AOL is a good acid test, cause they have strict ACLs. like i said i
use unix shell account so i can use IMAP, webmail, or console to check mail
i.e. any computer from DOS to Windows to Solaris can easily check my boxes.

one other idea is to relay off a commercial SOCKS5 proxy, something i will have
to look into.

michael
 
SchroedingerzKatwrote:
[quote:d5ee1f0238]Setting your SMTP server to your ISP's >server
works...unless you have some
crap ISP that's also being blacklisted.
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/snip
like i said i use unix shell account so i can use IMAP, webmail, or
console to check maili.e. any computer from DOS to Windows to Solaris
can easily check my boxes.
michael[/quote:d5ee1f0238]

Any suggestions for getting started with this approach?

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SchroedingerzKat said:
no, i use Earthlink and AOL
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Unless AOL has been completely revamped it was never an ISP, it was always
an OSP. Also, you're correct in that some of these "connections" to the web
won't allow you to use their SMTP server unless you're sending email with a
FROM: the same as your login although many ISP's that I've used do require
you to use their SMTP servers.
 
Unless AOL has been completely revamped it was never an ISP, it was always
an OSP.
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i have no idea what OSP means. historically AOL was a Content Provider, not an
ISP. several years ago it became a true ISP, although there is content-only
service for broadband similar to MSN's program. a dialup connect through AOL
is, for all intents and purposes, equivalent to Earthlink. yes, it has bulky
dialer but that's been superceded by some lighter-weight dialers. it also
works just fine with linux. The NNTP servers, unlike Classic Compuserve, are
proprietary interface, but AOL has IMAP4, SMTP, etc now. about the only
non-standard protocol is the P3/FLAP used for dialup instead of PPP. that's
not a problem if you know what you're doing (netconnect, penggy, et al.).

in it's simplest form, an ISP provides internet service. if you have PPP,
PPPoE, bridged ethernet, whatever, and are assigned an IP address, have access
to sockets, and can generally use TCP/IP protocol suite (ACL's notwithstanding)
to communicate with other boxes on the inet, then it's an ISP. it's not even a
debateable issue. anyway, AOL is not my ISP, earthlink is.
Also, you're correct in that some of >these "connections" to the web
won't allow you to use their SMTP server >unless you're sending email with a
FROM: the same as your login although >many ISP's that I've used do require
you to use their SMTP servers.
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just FYI, the web refers traditionally to HTTP and related protocols. in this
case it's the unrelated SMTP. yes it's blocked by some dialup ISP's, but
broadband often has unfettered outbound TCP 25.

regards,

michael
 
OSP - Other Service Provider

Seems AOL has gone through alot of changes. I used to volunteer on
AOL...did Rainman scripting. I left when they did away with Rainman and
went to html pages instead.
 
stonecypher said:
/snip
like i said i use unix shell account so i can use IMAP, webmail, or
console to check maili.e. any computer from DOS to Windows to Solaris
can easily check my boxes.
michael[/quote:d5ee1f0238]

Any suggestions for getting started with this approach?

* Posted via http://www.sixfiles.com/forum
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good luck with public POP/IMAP if you go that route. i didn't have much
luck with HotPop, maybe my experiences were just bad luck.

as far as unix shell accounts, you can telnet to m-net.arbornet.org,
cyberspace.org, metawire.org, sdf.lonestar.org, nyx.nyx.net and try them
out. they usually use "newuser" or something as initial login. sdf and
nyx require verification, usually $1 or $2 via mail. m-net, cyberspace,
and metawire don't require this. you'd have to check for POP/IMAP
servers on each of these because they vary.

metawire.org appears to have POP and IMAP. the webmail doesn't work for
me because it times out. i think this is due to me having dialup
instead of broadband.

michael
 
Chrissy said:
I don't have any problem. What is yours with TBird?
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yeah that is wierd. if it's RFC-compliant IMAP, then Thunderbird (or
almost any mail client) should work. i suspect it's an errant SSL or
authentication setting.

michael
 
Chrissy said:
I don't have any problem. What is yours with TBird?
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There are some pages devoted to TB configuration changes for Fastmail IMAP. I
don't want to get into lots of changes just for a free IMAP server, when I still
use POP3 in TB for other email. From what that data says, TB does not do IMAP out
of the box.

Mike Sa
 
From what that data says, TB does not do IMAP out
of the box.

Mike Sa
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I believe you may be mistaken. Tbird does IMAP out of the box very
well; in fact some regard IMAP handling as Tbird's best feature, and
Tbird is usually ranked among the best IMAP clients.

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stonecypher said:
I believe you may be mistaken. Tbird does IMAP out of the box very
well; in fact some regard IMAP handling as Tbird's best feature, and
Tbird is usually ranked among the best IMAP clients.

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6 months ago, I got data from 2 web pages, one from Fastmail and one from a TB
forum, both describe necessary changes to TB in order to use IMAP. A puzzle.

Since you and Chrissy report it works OK, I started to sign up. The Accept step
did not work, stating "your present email address is incorrect". Well, it is correct.

Is there some typical parameter in another server (Softhome) to cause the Fastmail
server to read my address as incorrect?

Mike Sa
 
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