[OT] Ratio RAM to Swap File Size

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Having just upgraded RAM I was doing a search for the ratio of RAM to
Swap File size. I've read 1:1 and 1:2.
I have 256m RAM and have set the maximum and minimum swap file size to
256m so it stays the same. Since I've changed the swap file to a fixed
size I don't seem to have the memory "leaks" like I had before.
I use memory intensive programs like AutoCAD, a commercial anti-virus
program and a webcam among others at the same time.
Anyone have any ideas or opinions on the subject in the first sentence?
Win98FE PII 366 processor.
 
dszady said:
Having just upgraded RAM I was doing a search for the ratio of RAM to
Swap File size. I've read 1:1 and 1:2.
I have 256m RAM and have set the maximum and minimum swap file size to
256m so it stays the same. Since I've changed the swap file to a fixed
size I don't seem to have the memory "leaks" like I had before.
I use memory intensive programs like AutoCAD, a commercial anti-virus
program and a webcam among others at the same time.
Anyone have any ideas or opinions on the subject in the first sentence?
Win98FE PII 366 processor.
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You may find this page to be very helpful:
http://aumha.org/win4/a/memmgmt.htm A couple of tweaks are discussed, but
the recurring recommendation is "let Windows handle it."

HTH,
Ian.
 
Having just upgraded RAM I was doing a search for the ratio of RAM to
Swap File size. I've read 1:1 and 1:2.
I have 256m RAM and have set the maximum and minimum swap file size to
256m so it stays the same. Since I've changed the swap file to a fixed
size I don't seem to have the memory "leaks" like I had before.
I use memory intensive programs like AutoCAD, a commercial anti-virus
program and a webcam among others at the same time.
Anyone have any ideas or opinions on the subject in the first sentence?
Win98FE PII 366 processor.
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Standard procedure is to set Windows to manage the swap file, then run
your machine for a day with all the usual apps going. Check the size
of the swapfile from time to time, then set it as a static swap file
at the maximum size you saw, plus a bit extra for luck.

You may find it advantageous to either move the swap file to the front
of the drive, or - if running big graphics apps, use a secondary hard
drive for it.
Looking at your system specs you'd get most benefit from upgrading the
CPU - which you should be able to do for beer money these days.

Regards,
 
dszady said:
Having just upgraded RAM I was doing a search for the ratio of RAM to
Swap File size. I've read 1:1 and 1:2.
I have 256m RAM and have set the maximum and minimum swap file size to
256m so it stays the same. Since I've changed the swap file to a fixed
size I don't seem to have the memory "leaks" like I had before.
I use memory intensive programs like AutoCAD, a commercial anti-virus
program and a webcam among others at the same time.
Anyone have any ideas or opinions on the subject in the first sentence?
Win98FE PII 366 processor.
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Check out this page:

http://www.altf1.org/Technical/DfWTech/Windows_Settings/WinSetSwapFile/body_winsetswapfile.html

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Having just upgraded RAM I was doing a search for the ratio of RAM to
Swap File size. I've read 1:1 and 1:2.
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The others have already suggested good method of determining the optimum swap
file setting.
I too like to set a static size which helps to minmize defragmentation, also
when running defrag I set my software to move the swap file to the front of
the drive for faster access.

You may also consider using a program like Cacheman, it can work wonders
solving "memory leaks" that you mentioned by making permanent settings
instead of allowing windows to use what it wants.
I hace the same amount of ram as you just upgraded too and these settings
were placed in my system.ini file:

[vcache]
minfilecache=2048
maxfilecache=16384
chunksize=512

It's easy to change and remove if you decide you don't like it, so no harm,
no foul.

Get Cacheman 3.51 here:
http://boyer203.millersv.edu/www/cacheman/cacheman.htm
See more freeware here:
http://boyer203.millersv.edu/www/freeware/freeware.htm
 
Having just upgraded RAM I was doing a search for the ratio of RAM to
Swap File size. I've read 1:1 and 1:2.
I have 256m RAM and have set the maximum and minimum swap file size to
256m so it stays the same. Since I've changed the swap file to a fixed
size I don't seem to have the memory "leaks" like I had before.
I use memory intensive programs like AutoCAD, a commercial anti-virus
program and a webcam among others at the same time.
Anyone have any ideas or opinions on the subject in the first sentence?
Win98FE PII 366 processor.
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Revert back to letting windows manage your swapfile then..
Use your system monitor (type sysmon.exe in start >run).Under edit tab> add
item>memory manager add the "swapfile in use" and see how high your swap
file usage goes when you do what you do.Add a small safety margin for
minimum swap and thats about it.I have similar setup to 256 meg ram w98 p3
733.Ive set my swap to 300 min and no max.Using the system monitor the way i
described ive never actually used more than 220 meg of swap.It doesnt hurt
not to set the maximum and its still a permanent swapfile.
me
 
The others have already suggested good method of determining the optimum swap
file setting.
I too like to set a static size which helps to minmize defragmentation, also
when running defrag I set my software to move the swap file to the front of
the drive for faster access.

You may also consider using a program like Cacheman, it can work wonders
solving "memory leaks"
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You must be smoking weed, it cannot solve memory leaks.
that you mentioned by making permanent settings
instead of allowing windows to use what it wants.
I hace the same amount of ram as you just upgraded too and these settings
were placed in my system.ini file:

[vcache]
minfilecache=2048
maxfilecache=16384
chunksize=512
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Your setting are of no use to anybody else.
 
Having just upgraded RAM I was doing a search for the ratio of RAM to
Swap File size. I've read 1:1 and 1:2.
I have 256m RAM and have set the maximum and minimum swap file size to
256m so it stays the same. Since I've changed the swap file to a fixed
size I don't seem to have the memory "leaks" like I had before.
I use memory intensive programs like AutoCAD, a commercial anti-virus
program and a webcam among others at the same time.
Anyone have any ideas or opinions on the subject in the first sentence?
Win98FE PII 366 processor.
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The more ram the less swapfile should be required. There is no hard and fast
rule as it depends a lot on the applications YOU run. Note it is STRONGLY
recommended to NEVER define a maximum for your swapfile. Windows will come
to a halt if more swapfile is required than the maximum you have defined.

I am a big fan of Cacheman as it will help you tweak memory and disk related
options. It can be found here:

http://www.outertech.com/index.php?_charisma_page=product&id=2

It's has very useful help and wizards. I do not recommend using it's memory
recovery module but otherwise it's very useful to set and monitor how your
system is using memory and the swap file. Technically it's shareware but
nothing is disabled if you don't register. Did wonders on my Win98SE machine
when I went from 128MB to 512MB.
 
Cacheman said:
Having just upgraded RAM I was doing a search for the ratio of RAM to
Swap File size. I've read 1:1 and 1:2.
Click to expand...

The others have already suggested good method of determining the optimum
swap file setting.
I too like to set a static size which helps to minmize defragmentation,
also
when running defrag I set my software to move the swap file to the front
of the drive for faster access.

You may also consider using a program like Cacheman, it can work wonders
solving "memory leaks" that you mentioned by making permanent settings
instead of allowing windows to use what it wants.
I hace the same amount of ram as you just upgraded too and these
settings were placed in my system.ini file:

[vcache]
minfilecache=2048
maxfilecache=16384
chunksize=512

It's easy to change and remove if you decide you don't like it, so no
harm, no foul.

Get Cacheman 3.51 here:
http://boyer203.millersv.edu/www/cacheman/cacheman.htm
See more freeware here:
http://boyer203.millersv.edu/www/freeware/freeware.htm
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See my followup to the original poster. Cacheman is up to version 5.50

http://www.outertech.com/index.php?_charisma_page=product&id=2

There is also a version specifically designed for Windows XP

http://www.outertech.com/index.php?_charisma_page=product&id=7

Note both are shareware. The non-XP version has nothing disabled if you
don't register. There is a fair bit disabled in the XP version unless you
register.
 
I am a big fan of Cacheman as it will help you tweak memory and disk
related options. It can be found here:

http://www.outertech.com/index.php?_charisma_page=product&id=2

It's has very useful help and wizards. I do not recommend using it's
memory recovery module but otherwise it's very useful to set and
monitor how your system is using memory and the swap file. Technically
it's shareware but nothing is disabled if you don't register. Did
wonders on my Win98SE machine when I went from 128MB to 512MB.
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I think I agree; I'vee only just tried Cacheman, as I followed the lte
winders98 handle it church.

But one very obvious way it improves performance is in releasing resources
(memory?) quickly after closing programs- other progs are instantly up to
full speed.

mike r
 
Having just upgraded RAM I was doing a search for the ratio of RAM to
Swap File size. I've read 1:1 and 1:2.
I have 256m RAM and have set the maximum and minimum swap file size to
256m so it stays the same. Since I've changed the swap file to a fixed
size I don't seem to have the memory "leaks" like I had before.
I use memory intensive programs like AutoCAD, a commercial anti-virus
program and a webcam among others at the same time.
Anyone have any ideas or opinions on the subject in the first sentence?
Win98FE PII 366 processor.
Click to expand...

Thanks for all the ideas and resources Guys.
Ok... I've used Cacheman when I have had less memory-intensive apps with
the 64m config. Worked great. When I installed 128 more - 192 total -
with larger programs it = BSOD. Obviously a conflict somewhere. (me?)
Now by replacing the 64m with another 128m I wanted to optimize the
system as a whole - 256m, swap file usage and video mem.
After reading the articles referred to in this thread I realized I had
gone to the wrong resources to do so and there are many.
The Windows "Dudes" reiterated in the three or four articles I have read
this afternoon a couple of things.
Don't just go anywhere to get advice to "screw" with the swap file in
the hope of fine-tuning your system. You know, the techie tips type of
thing.
Let Windows do the memory management. Ok.
Change one digit in the system.ini from zero to one.
"ConservativeSwapfileUsage=0" to
"ConservativeSwapfileUsage=1"
My physical swap file right now reads "0". So I guess they are right in
saying, to paraphrase, "tit for tat". RAM to .swp - .swp to RAM.
I don't see any increase or decrease in performance as of yet and that's
cool.
I don't know if any problems will pop up in the future. WIN98! never ;)
But it shall suffice for now.
Here are those links again in case anyone didn't get to see them.
From Ionizer: http://aumha.org/win4/a/memmgmt.htm
From John Corliss:
http://www.altf1.org/Technical/DfWTech/Windows_Settings/WinSetSwapFile/body_winsetswapfile.html
 
Here are those links again in case anyone didn't get to see them.
From Ionizer: http://aumha.org/win4/a/memmgmt.htm
From John Corliss:
http://www.altf1.org/Technical/DfWTech/Windows_Settings/WinSetSwapFile/
body_winsetswapfile.html
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I didn't look up the John Corliss reference, having been well drilled in
"let 98SE handle it"

Hoewver on looking, it refers to a tweak Cacheman does; so that may be the
reason for the marked improvement in my 98SE box after installing it.

mike r
 
You must be smoking weed, it cannot solve memory leaks.
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I hace the same amount of ram as you just upgraded too and these
settings were placed in my system.ini file:

[vcache]
minfilecache=2048
maxfilecache=16384
chunksize=512
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Your setting are of no use to anybody else.
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Certainly they are, as long as the persons system is similarly configured,
and as they have the same amount of ram as I do, they will get the same or
similar numbers as I, depending on which version of Cacheman they use.

Speaking of which, I did a quick test and got different suggested settings on
the same system using different versions of Cacheman, and they all work fine,
so in this case doing anything is better than doing nothing.

And speaking of nothing, what have you contributed to this thread so far?
 
Can't you stick to the subject?
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Sure, what were we discussing?, oh yeah, you took something I said out of
context and said I was on drugs, so I provided an explanation for what I
said, with an example, with a link to a site where you can go to verify this,
and you still don't get it!
Cacheman cannot fix memory leaks, but it does a good job of covering
them up in 98
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I never actually said it did, perhaps if you print out the posts and show
tham to your teacher, he/she can explain it to you.
Bye.
 
Sure, what were we discussing?, oh yeah, you took something I said out of
context and said I was on drugs, so I provided an explanation for what I
said, with an example, with a link to a site where you can go to verify this,
and you still don't get it!


I never actually said it did,
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Thats good, thats what I wanted to hear.

Cacheman cannot fix memory leaks.
perhaps if you print out the posts and show
tham to your teacher, he/she can explain it to you.
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I am not sure that is what is required.

I have the information that I need, thanks
 
Andy12437 typed:
Dszarsehole, yeah [OT] in your case means Overall Tosser.
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ker plinkety plinkety PLONK
dszady said:
Oh, so it's ok for YOU to post [OT] then, is it ????
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No, it isn't. But I labeled mine [OT]
Stop top-posting. Do you read a book upside down?

http://clients.net2000.com.au/~johnf/faq.html#(15)
Having just upgraded RAM I was doing a search for the ratio of RAM
to Swap File size. I've read 1:1 and 1:2.
I have 256m RAM and have set the maximum and minimum swap file
size to 256m so it stays the same. Since I've changed the swap
file to a fixed size I don't seem to have the memory "leaks" like
I had before.
I use memory intensive programs like AutoCAD, a commercial
anti-virus program and a webcam among others at the same time.
Anyone have any ideas or opinions on the subject in the first
sentence? Win98FE PII 366 processor.
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