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tomek gomek

Hi.
I started read this group recently.
I have one stupid question :)
Why reply is almost always above message with question instead of under it?
Is this a rule for this group? I want to be (accord)[1] ....

[1] i don't know how to write it in English ;)

regards
tomek
 
Because it reads better that way, regardless of what bottom-posters may
shriek.

--
HTH

Bob

(there's no email, no snail mail, but somewhere should be gmail in my addy)
 
Most people tend to top-post (i.e. put their post above the previous
ones), though I'm not sure that this is a rule, as other people bottom-
post (which makes more sense when you are reading it, but for long
threads it can take some time to scroll down to the latest posting
with this approach).

[1] I think you want the word comply, or to be in compliance.

As another poster (Earl?) says: "When in Rome ..." (do as the Romans
do)

Hope this helps.

Pete
 
thanks.
"comply" is that word :)
ok, i'll do as the Romans do if i'll be able to help someone

tomek

ps. on pl.* groups top-posting is not (good looking ???) that's what i ask
for it

Uzytkownik "Pete_UK said:
Most people tend to top-post (i.e. put their post above the previous
ones), though I'm not sure that this is a rule, as other people bottom-
post (which makes more sense when you are reading it, but for long
threads it can take some time to scroll down to the latest posting
with this approach).

[1] I think you want the word comply, or to be in compliance.

As another poster (Earl?) says: "When in Rome ..." (do as the Romans
do)

Hope this helps.

Pete

Hi.
I started read this group recently.
I have one stupid question :)
Why reply is almost always above message with question instead of under
it?
Is this a rule for this group? I want to be (accord)[1] ....

[1] i don't know how to write it in English ;)

regards
tomek
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I had to access this site via Google groups a while back and found that it
defaults to bottom posting. I generally post via the microsoft.com site and
it defaults to top posting.

Bob Phillips said:
Because it reads better that way, regardless of what bottom-posters may
shriek.

--
HTH

Bob

(there's no email, no snail mail, but somewhere should be gmail in my addy)

tomek gomek said:
Hi.
I started read this group recently.
I have one stupid question :)
Why reply is almost always above message with question instead of under
it?
Is this a rule for this group? I want to be (accord)[1] ....

[1] i don't know how to write it in English ;)
regards
tomek
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Bob Phillips said:
Because it reads better that way, regardless of what bottom-posters may
shriek.
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....

Only if one could assume (1) top posters just weren't so darn lazy, and (2)
top posters really understood how newsgroups should work.

Since Outlook Express and most of the web-based newsgroup portals default to
top posting, that's pretty much the reason why it's so common in microsoft.*
newsgroups. Occam's razor: laziness is the reason.
 
Pete_UK said:
. . . but for long
threads it can take some time to scroll down to the latest posting
with this approach).
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....


Only because too many people are ignorant of the nettiquette REQUIREMENT for
quoting only previous text relevant to their response. The implied message
is their time/convenience is much more valuable than anyone else's.
 
At least one person in these news groups will not respond to your post if it is
bottom posted.

If you do bottom post, try to snip off any irrelevant bits above your post but
maintain enough for clarity.


Gord Dibben MS Excel MVP


thanks.
"comply" is that word :)
ok, i'll do as the Romans do if i'll be able to help someone

tomek

ps. on pl.* groups top-posting is not (good looking ???) that's what i ask
for it

Uzytkownik "Pete_UK said:
Most people tend to top-post (i.e. put their post above the previous
ones), though I'm not sure that this is a rule, as other people bottom-
post (which makes more sense when you are reading it, but for long
threads it can take some time to scroll down to the latest posting
with this approach).

[1] I think you want the word comply, or to be in compliance.

As another poster (Earl?) says: "When in Rome ..." (do as the Romans
do)

Hope this helps.

Pete

Hi.
I started read this group recently.
I have one stupid question :)
Why reply is almost always above message with question instead of under
it?
Is this a rule for this group? I want to be (accord)[1] ....

[1] i don't know how to write it in English ;)

regards
tomek
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It doesn't matter to me one way or the other but it gets real ugly when one
top posts a reply and then the OP bottom posts their reply.

--
Biff
Microsoft Excel MVP


Bob Phillips said:
Because it reads better that way, regardless of what bottom-posters may
shriek.

--
HTH

Bob

(there's no email, no snail mail, but somewhere should be gmail in my
addy)

tomek gomek said:
Hi.
I started read this group recently.
I have one stupid question :)
Why reply is almost always above message with question instead of under
it?
Is this a rule for this group? I want to be (accord)[1] ....

[1] i don't know how to write it in English ;)
regards
tomek
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Gord Dibben said:
At least one person in these news groups will not respond to your
post if it is bottom posted.
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Probably no great loss.
If you do bottom post, try to snip off any irrelevant bits above
your post but maintain enough for clarity.
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Whereas top posters will continue to leave the entire preceding thread
quoted in their responses like grossly overgrown signatures. I
ventured a guess a few years ago that about 75% of the aggregate text
posted in the Excel newsgroups is unsnipped quotes. It's probably more
by now. No one cares because it the ISPs problem to store it all, and
fast internet connections means it's painless to download so much
cruft.
 
Harlan Grove said:
Gord Dibben <gorddibbATshawDOTca> wrote...
...

Whereas top posters will continue to leave the entire preceding thread
quoted in their responses like grossly overgrown signatures. I
ventured a guess a few years ago that about 75% of the aggregate text
posted in the Excel newsgroups is unsnipped quotes. It's probably more
by now. No one cares because it the ISPs problem to store it all, and
fast internet connections means it's painless to download so much
cruft.
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Exactly ... no great problem.
 
Top-posting is no lazy per se Harlan.

As I keep pointing out to bottom-poster evangelists, my experience of people
who use NGs regularly (and let's be honest, to those that don't, the
argument is immaterial) is that they follow a thread by monitoring it,
reading responses as they come in, just as you are doing here. As such, when
a response comes in, I don't want to have to scroll through a whole heap of
responses, counter responses etc. that I have already read. I want to get to
the meat of what is being said, and by top-posting, that aids me enormously.
If I do need to refer back, I can easily scroll down, or read the previous
postings. I see no merits in bottom posting at all.

As far as I can tell, most of your argument relates to not snipping posts,
just adding a response to the responses already accumulated in the thread to
date. This is not a peculiarity of a top-posting, it is just as easy to do
in bottom posting. I agree with your dismay at this, but I own up to doing
it myself, and quite honestly top-posting makes it almost irrelevant (even
helpful if you do want to look back in the thread). But guess what, you do
it yourself, nobody is perfect.


--
HTH

Bob

(there's no email, no snail mail, but somewhere should be gmail in my addy)
 
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