[OT] MS Java

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Yesterday I got around to removing the MS Java VM from my w98se system.
(Not, btw, to replace with Sun. Simply that I haven't used Java since
somewhere around 1999, nor have any future plans to use it.) The first
step (the one that gets out the largest part of the bulk), it was to
make a call to the hidden uninstall command:

Run: RunDll32 advpack.dll,LaunchINFSection java.inf,UnInstall

That produced a true prize of a warning prompt from Redmond:

http://www.redshift.com/~omega/clips/var/msjava.png

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For offliners: The MSFT warning said that if one uninstalls MS Java,
then Internet Explorer will "not be able to download files from the
World Wide Web."
 
Yesterday I got around to removing the MS Java VM from my w98se system.
(Not, btw, to replace with Sun. Simply that I haven't used Java since
somewhere around 1999, nor have any future plans to use it.) The first
step (the one that gets out the largest part of the bulk), it was to
make a call to the hidden uninstall command:

Run: RunDll32 advpack.dll,LaunchINFSection java.inf,UnInstall

That produced a true prize of a warning prompt from Redmond:

http://www.redshift.com/~omega/clips/var/msjava.png

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For offliners: The MSFT warning said that if one uninstalls MS Java,
then Internet Explorer will "not be able to download files from the
World Wide Web."
Click to expand...

Poor poor (in spirit, not in ca$h <g>) Microsoft. So many people "losing" their
products (in whole or in part). What will they do, oh what will they do.....
 
omega said:
Yesterday I got around to removing the MS Java VM from my w98se system.
(Not, btw, to replace with Sun. Simply that I haven't used Java since
somewhere around 1999, nor have any future plans to use it.) The first
step (the one that gets out the largest part of the bulk), it was to
make a call to the hidden uninstall command:

Run: RunDll32 advpack.dll,LaunchINFSection java.inf,UnInstall

That produced a true prize of a warning prompt from Redmond:

http://www.redshift.com/~omega/clips/var/msjava.png
For offliners: The MSFT warning said that if one uninstalls MS Java,
then Internet Explorer will "not be able to download files from the
World Wide Web."
Click to expand...
I also rarely need the default Java in W98SE, but the other day I had to go to my
investment's website (Firefox) to do something. Technology has progressed so they
will not accept a letter, it can only be done on the website. It is a secure site,
and the only way I could access my account was to enable everything, even Java, to
finally get in. Without Java, it would not work. Afterward, for my normal
browsing, I disabled everything again. YMMV with your financial stuff.

HTH

Mike Sa
 
ms said:
I also rarely need the default Java in W98SE, but the other day I had to go to my
investment's website (Firefox) to do something. Technology has progressed so they
will not accept a letter, it can only be done on the website. It is a secure site,
and the only way I could access my account was to enable everything, even Java, to
finally get in. Without Java, it would not work. Afterward, for my normal
browsing, I disabled everything again. YMMV with your financial stuff.
Click to expand...

The last time I needed java was for realtime stock quotes. For some years
now, however, can get that without java. I prefer to use a basic, simple
realtime display from finance.yahoo.com. No need to turn on even javascript
permission there, and can just use a local utility to auto-reload the page
at preferred intervals.

My bank (WAMU), it doesn't require java anywhere. It's compatible with
all browsers I've used, and the only thing needed is enabling javascript.

My brokerage (Ameritrade, who ate Datek), I don't need to use java to
do the things I do there. Which is basically only to buy/sell; transfer
funds in/out; and get historical records. They have various stuff on
their sites, "features," related to presenting information & graphs on
stocks, and etc, and I don't know, it's possible they might use java for
some of that. I've never checked all last corners of their site, as I
basically don't enjoy hanging out there anyway, and whatever superfluous
features that have did not capture my interest.

There have been several other financial institutions, for bank & CC,
that I've used online in recent years (mainly for relatives), and none
of those, either, happened to require java. Of course, as you say, YMMV.

If for some reason I did get stuck with a financial service that required
java, then at that point I would go Sun. I do not know of a single argument
in favor of choosing MS Java...
 
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