Open Office: resources and file sizes

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Frank Delamarre

Some date about the handling of 6 Kb rtf and 52 Kb (between brackets)
documents, made with Atlantis Nova, by two office packages (W2K, 384
Mb):

RAM use:
Open Office: 47 Mb !!!!!
MS-Word 2000: 19 Mb

Saved unaltered document as .rtf:
Open Office: 27.2 (88.5) Kb
MS-Word 2000: 12.4 (58) Kb

Saved unaltered document as .doc:
Open Office: 19 (110.6) Kb
MS-Word 2000: 28.7 (121.9) Kb

I presume Open Office loads the whole office package into memory,
which is a very bad thing, whereas MS-Office doesn't. I wonder why
..rtf files get so bloated by OO. Then there is the .doc bloat
mystery...

Frank
 
Frank Delamarre scribebat:
I wonder why .rtf files get so bloated by OO.

Just open a RTF in a text editor and see the differences: OOo adds much
more meta information about the document than WordPad, WordPad is somehow
limited in its capabilities compared to the possibilities of RTF -- for
example, it cannot display and save footnotes, while the RTF-standard
itself supports them.
 
I presume Open Office loads the whole office package into memory,
which is a very bad thing, whereas MS-Office doesn't. I wonder why
.rtf files get so bloated by OO. Then there is the .doc bloat
mystery...
Actually, MS-Office already has half the libraries it uses pre-loaded
when Windows fires up as alot of what it uses is what the OS is already
using. OpenOffice doesn't have this advantage.
 
Actually, MS-Office already has half the libraries it uses pre-loaded
when Windows fires up as alot of what it uses is what the OS is already
using. OpenOffice doesn't have this advantage.

You can choose to load or not load the MS or OOo startup modules.

-- Bob
 
Some date about the handling of 6 Kb rtf and 52 Kb (between brackets)
documents, made with Atlantis Nova, by two office packages (W2K, 384
Mb):

RAM use:
Open Office: 47 Mb !!!!!
MS-Word 2000: 19 Mb

Saved unaltered document as .rtf:
Open Office: 27.2 (88.5) Kb
MS-Word 2000: 12.4 (58) Kb

Saved unaltered document as .doc:
Open Office: 19 (110.6) Kb
MS-Word 2000: 28.7 (121.9) Kb

I presume Open Office loads the whole office package into memory,
which is a very bad thing, whereas MS-Office doesn't. I wonder why
.rtf files get so bloated by OO. Then there is the .doc bloat
mystery...

Hi Frank,

Interesting. Confirms what I can "feel" when using both programs.

Did you purge the documents? This can make them quite a bit more compact.

-- Bob
 
Onno Tasler said:
Frank Delamarre scribebat:

Just open a RTF in a text editor and see the differences: OOo adds much
more meta information about the document than WordPad, WordPad is somehow
limited in its capabilities compared to the possibilities of RTF -- for
example, it cannot display and save footnotes, while the RTF-standard
itself supports them.

He didn't use Wordpad.
 
Onno Tasler said:
Just open a RTF in a text editor and see the differences: OOo adds much
more meta information about the document than WordPad,

Read again and you'll see that I did not mention WordPad at all (I
never use it!).

Frank
 
Bob Adkins said:
You can choose to not save (or imbed) TT fonts internally. This makes the
DOC smaller.

-- Bob

You can often reduce file size by creating a new document containing just one blank line
(carriage return), importing the old file into the new, and then deleting the blank line and saving
(under a new name, just to be safe).

As for the RTF issue (discussed in thread above), the same basic point applies to the
comparison of OOo to Win Office as does to the comparison of OOo to Wordpad (or any
basic RTF editor (such as Wordtabs); OOo saves more metadata. The question is, who
needs all that crap?
 
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