One more try to get help on 8.3 filenames in XP

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Ernie

I did a poating abour 2 weeks ago about a problem I'm tryein to resolve and
received no responses. One of my legacy programs displays long filenamse in
win 98 but 8.3 filenamse in XP. I assume the program is finding a newer
version of whatever file displays the filebox. I tried searching what was
running in task manager but couldn't isolate any particular file by that
method. I'm hoping someone will find time to suggest other ways to solve this
problem. Short filemanes are useless in a direcrory with over 3500 files.
Thanks in advance
 
Ernie said:
I did a poating abour 2 weeks ago about a problem I'm tryein to resolve and
received no responses. One of my legacy programs displays long filenamse
in
win 98 but 8.3 filenamse in XP. I assume the program is finding a newer
version of whatever file displays the filebox. I tried searching what was
running in task manager but couldn't isolate any particular file by that
method. I'm hoping someone will find time to suggest other ways to solve
this
problem. Short filemanes are useless in a direcrory with over 3500 files.
Thanks in advance
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What is the legacy program? Are filenames displayed properly (long)
outside of that application?
 
First Thanks to all who replied. Second I appologize for all the Typos. Third
I failed to mention I am running XP on a FAT32x partition.
Raoul I haven't yet checked the Google page you refer to. Will get back on
that one.
Thanks again
 
Raoul
I found about all those references in my search from Yahoo.
Patrick
The program is Voyetra Digital Orchestrator. If you aren't familiar, it is a
midi composing program. It came with my Turtle Beach Santa Cruz card. I don't
have a midi capable keyboard but I enjoy hearing/seeing the work of others
and how the get the sounds they do. I've accumulated over 3500 files that are
in the main table of an Access db to which I added VBA code to atart the
files directly in DO. That's of course if the filebox displays long filenames
as it does when running in win 98.
Hope to hear more from you all
Thanks
Ernie
 
Ernie said:
Raoul
I found about all those references in my search from Yahoo.
Patrick
The program is Voyetra Digital Orchestrator. If you aren't familiar, it is
a
midi composing program. It came with my Turtle Beach Santa Cruz card. I
don't
have a midi capable keyboard but I enjoy hearing/seeing the work of others
and how the get the sounds they do. I've accumulated over 3500 files that
are
in the main table of an Access db to which I added VBA code to atart the
files directly in DO. That's of course if the filebox displays long
filenames
as it does when running in win 98.
Hope to hear more from you all
Thanks
Ernie
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Thanks. No, I don't know that app.

One of the key questions is, if you look at those files in Explorer, do the
long filenames appear, or are they rendered as 8.3?

Does this effect *only* occur in DO?

-pk
 
Patrick
Sorry I missed answering that one. Yes they display long names if I view
them in My Computer or any other file list.
Thanks again
 
Ernie said:
Patrick
Sorry I missed answering that one. Yes they display long names if I view
them in My Computer or any other file list.
Thanks again
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OK, thanks, because that indicates that it's not XP that is doing this
directly. The next question is whether they are appearing as 8.3 in the
Access app / table or in DO.

If they aren't appearing properly in your Access tables, you might need to
update its code (or the Access version).

Or, while the version of DO that you have seems to run on XP, it isn't
completely compatible. Win9x and XP don't handle filesystems the same way
and DO is probably just requesting incorrectly.

I understand that DO is discontinued, but you might look for a final update
of it or another comparable and compatible app. There are plenty of MIDI
control and manipulation apps out there.

HTH
-pk
 
Hi Patrick

I tried to respond earlier but MS apparently had to take the newsgroup off
line while I was composing.

Access does display the filenme in long form. I populate the table with a
query and some code. I can also rename files and delete files from the Access
app.

The app plays the file by opening Digital Orchestrator or setting focus if
it is already open, selecting the file menu, selecting Open, Pasting the file
name from the appropriate field (Long filename with extension) and sending
ENIER. then waits 2 seconds and sends F5 which is the play command in DO. In
win 98 the file plays in XP I get a (File not Found.) error as the file list
is geting short filenames.(If I send a file that happens to have a short name
it does find and play it.)

Getting the new version of DO may not help. I noted that one of my favorite
sequencers who is using Digital Orchestrator Pro is now posting files on her
website with short filenames. This may indicatethat she is having the same
problem with the current version,

Thenks for your interest
 
Hi Patrick

I found some of my problem description is invalid. The actual error message
I am getting is "The above filename is invalid." Also filenames longer than
eight characters work if they contain no spaces. I did a search for this
error on line and found several references that applied to earlier versions
of windows but none so far for XP. Also none of those descriptions disallowed
spaces (just several punctuation marks)
thanks again
 
Ernie said:
Hi Patrick

I found some of my problem description is invalid. The actual error
message
I am getting is "The above filename is invalid." Also filenames longer
than
eight characters work if they contain no spaces. I did a search for this
error on line and found several references that applied to earlier
versions
of windows but none so far for XP. Also none of those descriptions
disallowed
spaces (just several punctuation marks)
thanks again
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In that case, try using quotes around a filename - "Long file name.mid"

If that works, you'd be adding code to the Access app to add the quotes just
before it passes the name to DO.

HTH
-pk
 
Hi Patrick

I tried Qoutes but still no go. Tried adding quotes to a filename that would
load and they made that filename illegal also. I'm starting to think Digital
Orchestrator is accessing some ancient version of common dialog dll. I had a
similar problem with VB5 in that it never loaded DAO 3.1. After I manually
forced loaded that file , many of my old VB programs worked in XP.
Thanks
 
Hi Ernie,

DO & DOP never had support for long file names on any of the NT platforms.
I still run it on Win2k an WinXP with no problems, outside of the long file
name issue.

I believe there is a utility out there that will present the 8.3 equivilent
of the long file name, if that's any help.

Ken
 
Ken

Thanks for the response.

I've been peeking in the files that install DO from the CD and it appears
Voyetra wrote everything from scratch so no window file version change is
going to help. Fortunately I still have a good install of win 98 on a
separate partition so I can continue to use my Access db app with DO after a
quick reboot.
 
Thank you to all who have responded. Your suggestions gave me some different
approaches to trying to solve the problem. I will check for new responses for
another couple of days before I give up on this one.
 
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