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Hi,
I have just started a new job at a hostel for kids. They had some computers
in the cupboard that the staff told me were useless because they were
password protected and the XP administater left the job and couldent be
contacted. He also took with him all the hardware and software disks.

I took it upon my self to fix the puters. So first i was able to get into
them by using safe mode.
I have deleted and uninstalled as much of the old crap as possible but there
seem to be a few game orphans that i cant uninstall. How do i get rid of
orphans in the registery when i do not have access to the internet with these
particular machines.

i was thinking of formating the drive....but as i said i have no software
disks and i do not have the XP home disk to start again.

A challange i know!!! but im sure i can do something with your help. They
are basically good machines with 1.68 ghz prosessers and 512 MB RAM.

Any ideas will be helpful as the poor kids should be using these machines
Thank s
Beachlover
 
You'll need to purchase a "Full Version" of Windows XP
for each computer and perform a "clean install".

Clean Install Windows XP
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/cleanxpinstall.html

Example:

Microsoft Windows XP HOME Edition With Service Pack 2 - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16837102151

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows XP - Shell/User
Microsoft Newsgroups

Get Windows XP Service Pack 2 with Advanced Security Technologies:
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/windowsxp/choose.mspx

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| Hi,
| I have just started a new job at a hostel for kids. They had some computers
| in the cupboard that the staff told me were useless because they were
| password protected and the XP administater left the job and couldent be
| contacted. He also took with him all the hardware and software disks.
|
| I took it upon my self to fix the puters. So first i was able to get into
| them by using safe mode.
| I have deleted and uninstalled as much of the old crap as possible but there
| seem to be a few game orphans that i cant uninstall. How do i get rid of
| orphans in the registery when i do not have access to the internet with these
| particular machines.
|
| i was thinking of formating the drive....but as i said i have no software
| disks and i do not have the XP home disk to start again.
|
| A challange i know!!! but im sure i can do something with your help. They
| are basically good machines with 1.68 ghz prosessers and 512 MB RAM.
|
| Any ideas will be helpful as the poor kids should be using these machines
| Thank s
| Beachlover
 
Not necessarily-- If their is a tag (sticker) attached to the machine with
the windows XP license number, you do not need to buy the software again.
If their is no proof of license, however, you will. If the machines are
band name (Dell, HP) you can contact them for replacement OEM Windows CD's.
 
Beachlover said:
Hi,
I have just started a new job at a hostel for kids. They had some
computers
in the cupboard that the staff told me were useless because they were
password protected and the XP administater left the job and couldent be
contacted. He also took with him all the hardware and software disks.

I took it upon my self to fix the puters. So first i was able to get into
them by using safe mode.
I have deleted and uninstalled as much of the old crap as possible but
there
seem to be a few game orphans that i cant uninstall. How do i get rid of
orphans in the registery when i do not have access to the internet with
these
particular machines.

i was thinking of formating the drive....but as i said i have no software
disks and i do not have the XP home disk to start again.

A challange i know!!! but im sure i can do something with your help. They
are basically good machines with 1.68 ghz prosessers and 512 MB RAM.

Any ideas will be helpful as the poor kids should be using these machines
Thank s
Beachlover

If they're brand-name computers, you may be able to get replacement disks
from the oem at a reasonable price. Even better, if they're the same brand
and model, you can get one disk and just use it with the proper key (should
be affixed to the side of the computer) to do the reinstalls.

If the XP installs were from retail CDs, you may be able to get replacements
from Microsoft. It wouldn't hurt to ask. Just make sure you have the cd keys
before you wipe the drives.

Some oem computers don't come with disks, but have the reinstallation
software in a hidden partition on the hard drive. Since you didn't mention
what kind of computers you have, it's hard to say what you're going to need
to do, exactly.

As far as orphans in the registry, if that's the only issue, leave it alone.
Things like that aren't going to cause problems if they're just leftovers
and they aren't running. As far as "hardware disks," if you're talking about
drivers, you can download whatever you need, burn that to a disk, and then
install it on the computers you are working on. It shouldn't be a problem.
More difficult may be any applications you plan on running on these
computers. A bare machine with no Internet connection and nothing installed
except Windows may not be very appealing to kids.

If this place you're working for is some sort of nonprofit or charity or
similar, you might be able to get some donations/price reductions on the
software you need if you ask around. Try the manufacturers of the computers,
and see if they'd be willing to do something. Try larger companies in the
area. Try local computer stores. Try Microsoft.

If nothing else, maybe you could trade one of the computers for the
parts/labor you need on the rest of them. You'd have to give up one
computer, but at least the rest would be working, and that's better than
what you have now. If there's a local mom-and-pop type of shop, they might
have some suggestions as well.

And although this isn't part of what you asked, you might want to suggest to
your employers that they get their property back from that previous
employee. If he took things without permission, it's theft. If they don't
want to deal with criminal prosecution, they could try small claims court.
 
Hi and thanks to everyone for your advice.

Firstly,
Buying a full copy of XP is out of the question. The organization is a
charity and we have limited funding and I don’t think our petty cash will
stretch to buying a new copy of anything.

However, when I first fired the machines up….I noticed that whoever had
installed XP (in 2003) had not registered it. I registered it and it all went
fine so I’m assuming they are legit copies. We do have the little sticker on
the machine so I might try to get hold of a second copy as you suggested.
However, as I said money is a major problem.

I also might try the business that built the machines but I have a feeling
thay have gone bust or changed hands. But as you say it is worth a try.

The other thing I was wondering about. Could I bring in my own copies of XP
and intall them on the work computers but put in the key that is on the
little stickers.
Do you think that would work??

And as you say it will be easy enough to download all the driver and such at
home and burn them to use at work.

Finally, I don’t think my manager will allow the kids internet access as in
the past they have used it inappropriately. (teenagers huh) I think one of
the computers will be used as an office machine just for word processing,
accounts and such.

Anyway I would like to thank you all. I’m going to work later and I will try
to clean load my own copy of XP. I will let you all know how I get on.

Thanks again
Beachlover

PS I agree we should chase the member off staff who took all the disks.
However, this could be a bad political move on my account as I have only just
got the job and just fitting in with my new staff team. I think some off them
liked him!! So I need to tred carefully.
 
Q: "Could I bring in my own copies of XP and install them on the work computers
but put in the key that is on the little stickers. Do you think that would work??"

A: No. You need to contact the manufacturer of the PCs and request a
replacement Restore CD. The Product Keys affixed to the PCs will only
work with the manufacturer's Restore or Recovery CD.

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows XP - Shell/User
Microsoft Newsgroups

Get Windows XP Service Pack 2 with Advanced Security Technologies:
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/windowsxp/choose.mspx

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| Hi and thanks to everyone for your advice.
|
| Firstly,
| Buying a full copy of XP is out of the question. The organization is a
| charity and we have limited funding and I don’t think our petty cash will
| stretch to buying a new copy of anything.
|
| However, when I first fired the machines up….I noticed that whoever had
| installed XP (in 2003) had not registered it. I registered it and it all went
| fine so I’m assuming they are legit copies. We do have the little sticker on
| the machine so I might try to get hold of a second copy as you suggested.
| However, as I said money is a major problem.
|
| I also might try the business that built the machines but I have a feeling
| thay have gone bust or changed hands. But as you say it is worth a try.
|
| The other thing I was wondering about. Could I bring in my own copies of XP
| and intall them on the work computers but put in the key that is on the
| little stickers.
| Do you think that would work??
|
| And as you say it will be easy enough to download all the driver and such at
| home and burn them to use at work.
|
| Finally, I don’t think my manager will allow the kids internet access as in
| the past they have used it inappropriately. (teenagers huh) I think one of
| the computers will be used as an office machine just for word processing,
| accounts and such.
|
| Anyway I would like to thank you all. I’m going to work later and I will try
| to clean load my own copy of XP. I will let you all know how I get on.
|
| Thanks again
| Beachlover
|
| PS I agree we should chase the member off staff who took all the disks.
| However, this could be a bad political move on my account as I have only just
| got the job and just fitting in with my new staff team. I think some off them
| liked him!! So I need to tred carefully.
 
Unless of course, the installs were generic M$ windows XP (not
OEM versions) in which case you should be able to install from a
regular XP disk, just making sure you use the correct key from the
machine. By "stickers" it is not clear if they are an OEM sticker
or a regular install. If OEM, then as Carey says, you need to get
the OEM disk from the mfgr (or find someone that has one).

mikey
 
Hi Again,
I have just found all the software drivers for the computers at work.
And guess what there is a WinXp disc too so i can begin a recvory or a
clean install ....i hope.

The trouble now is that the machine has a password on the bios so i
cant change it to boot from cd.
I seem to be stuck again.
Any advise on how to get by the bios password would be very welcome.

Thanks again
Beachlover <at work>
 
beachlover said:
I have just found all the software drivers for the computers at work.
And guess what there is a WinXp disc too so i can begin a recvory or a
clean install ....i hope.

The trouble now is that the machine has a password on the bios so i
cant change it to boot from cd.
I seem to be stuck again.
Any advise on how to get by the bios password would be very welcome.

Try to remove the battery on the motherboard for 24 hours. Barring that
look for the manual on the motherboard if you can find identifying marks to
look for it on the internet. There may be a jumper to reset the BIOS
password. Barring that, look for one of the many BIOS Password Reset
utilities on the Internet for the type of BIOS you have.

Know that formatting is your best bet - unless you don't have all of the
software that you need to reinstall.

For example - if these machines have Office XP or something installed and
you do not have the reinstall CDs - it may be best to use something like
Belarc Advisor to get the keys for each machine for that and Windows and
keep that in a safe place - find someone's copies of said software and copy
the CDs... use your keys only though for reinstalls. Then - if not doing a
clean install for whatever reason, go through the tip list at the bottom of
this post to clean and better secure the machines for all users.

Anyway - if reformatting truly is an option - do the Belarc Advisor thing
and reinstall. Make sure you lock the machines down and update/patch them
as well as you can. Create different users on it - password protect the
ones with administrative power and give no power to the users who will be
logging into them most.

HOW TO: Create a Custom Default User Profile
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/319974

HOW TO: Create and Configure User Accounts in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/279783

HOW TO: Set, View, Change, or Remove Special Permissions for Files
and Folders in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308419

Some tips on maintenance can be found below - although meant for the
individual - many things in it could be used in your case.

Microsoft has these suggestions for Protecting your computer from the
various things that could happen to you/it:

Protect your PC
http://www.microsoft.com/security/protect/


Although those tips are fantastic, there are many things you should
know above and beyond what is there. Below I have detailed
out many steps that can not only help you clean-up a problem PC but
keep it clean ,secure and running at its top performance mark.

I know this text can seem intimidating - it is quite long and a lot
to take in for a novice - but I assure you that one trip through this
list and you will understand your computer and the options available
to you for protecting your data much better - and that the next time
you review these steps, the time it takes will be greatly reduced.

Let's take the cleanup of your computer step-by-step. Yes, it will take
up some of your time - but consider what you use your computer
for and how much you would dislike it if all of your stuff on your
computer went away because you did not "feel like" performing some
simple maintenance tasks - think of it like taking out your garbage,
collecting and sorting your postal mail, paying your bills on time,
etc.

I'll mainly work around Windows XP, as that is what the bulk of this
document is about; however, here is a place for you poor souls still
stuck in Windows 98/ME where you can get information on maintaining
your system:

Windows 98 and 'Maintaining Your Computer':
http://www.microsoft.com/windows98/usingwindows/maintaining/

Windows ME Computer Health:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsME/using/computerhealth/articles/

Pay close attention to the sections:
(in order)
- Clean up your hard disk
- Check for errors by running ScanDisk
- Defragment your hard disk
- Roll back the clock with System Restore


Also - now is a good time to point you to one of the easiest ways to find
information on problems you may be having and solutions others have found:

Search using Google!
http://www.google.com/
(How-to: http://www.google.com/intl/en/help/basics.html )


Now, let's go through some maintenance first that should only have to be
done once (mostly):

Tip (1):
Locate all of the software you have installed on your computer.
(the installation media - CDs, downloaded files, etc)
Collect these CDs and files together in a central and safe
place along with their CD keys and such. Make backups of these
installation media sets using your favorite copying method (CD/DVD Burner
and application, Disk copier, etc.) You'll be glad to know that if you
have a CD/DVD burner, you may be able to use a free application to make a
duplicate copy of your CDs. One such application is ISORecorder:

ISORecorder page (with general instructions on use):
http://isorecorder.alexfeinman.com/beta.htm

Yes - it is BETA software - but very useful and well tested.

More full function applications (free) for CD/DVD burning would be:

DeepBurner Free
http://www.deepburner.com/

CDBurnerXP Pro
http://www.cdburnerxp.se/

Another Option would be to search the web with Pricewatch.com or
Dealsites.net and find deals on Products like Ahead Nero and/or Roxio.


Tip (2):
Empty your Temporary Internet Files and shrink the size it stores to a
size between 128MB and 512MB..

- Open ONE copy of Internet Explorer.
- Select TOOLS -> Internet Options.
- Under the General tab in the "Temporary Internet Files" section, do the
following:
- Click on "Delete Cookies" (click OK)
- Click on "Settings" and change the "Amount of disk space to use:" to
something between 128MB and 512MB. (Betting it is MUCH larger right
now.)
- Click OK.
- Click on "Delete Files" and select to "Delete all offline contents"
(the checkbox) and click OK. (If you had a LOT, this could take 2-10
minutes or more.)
- Once it is done, click OK, close Internet Explorer, re-open Internet
Explorer.


Tip (3):
If things are running a bit sluggish and/or you have an older system
(1.5GHz or less and 256MB RAM or less) then you may want to look into
tweaking the performance by turning off some of the 'resource hogging'
Windows XP "prettifications". The fastest method is:

Control Panel --> System --> Advanced tab --> Performance section,
Settings button. Then choose "adjust for best performance" and you
now have a Windows 2000/98 look which turned off most of the annoying
"prettifications" in one swift action. You can play with the last
three checkboxes to get more of an XP look without many of the
other annoyances. You could also grab and install/use one
(or more) of the Microsoft Powertoys - TweakUI in particular:

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloads/powertoys/xppowertoys.mspx


Tip (4):
Understanding what a good password might be is vital to your
personal and system security. You may think you do not need to password
your home computer, as you may have it in a locked area (your home) where
no one else has access to it. Remember, however, you aren't always
"in that locked area" when using your computer online - meaning you likely
have usernames and passwords associated with web sites and the likes that
you would prefer other people do not discover/use. This is why you should
understand and utilize good passwords.

Good passwords are those that meet these general rules
(mileage may vary):

Passwords should contain at least six characters, and the character
string should contain at least three of these four character types:
- uppercase letters
- lowercase letters
- numerals
- nonalphanumeric characters (e.g., *, %, &, !, :)

Passwords should not contain your name/username.
Passwords should be unique to you and easy to remember.

One method many people are using today is to make up a phrase that
describes a point in their life and then turning that phrase into their
password by using only certain letters out of each word in that phrase.
It's much better than using your birthday month/year or your anniversary
in a pure sense. For example, let's say my phrase is:
'Moved to new home in 2004'
I could come up with this password from that:
'Mv2n3whmN04'

The password tip is in the one time section, but I highly
recommend you periodically change your passwords. The suggested time
varies, but I will throw out a 'once in every 3 to 6 months for
every account you have.'


Tip (5):
This tip is also 'questionable' in the one time section; however -
if properly setup - this one can be pretty well ignored for most people
after the initial 'fiddle-with' time.

Why you should use a computer firewall..
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/viruses/fwbenefits.mspx

You should, in some way, use a firewall. Hardware (like a nice
Cable Modem/DSL router) or software is up to you. Many use both of
these. The simplest one to use is the hardware one, as most people
don't do anything that they will need to configure their NAT device
for and those who do certainly will not mind fiddling with the equipment
to make things work for them. Next in the line of simplicity would
have to be the built-in Windows Firewall of Windows XP. In SP2 it
is turned on by default. It is not difficult to turn on in any
case, however:

Enable/Disable the Internet Connection Firewall (Pre-SP2):
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/283673

More information on the Internet Connection Firewall (Pre-SP2):
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/320855

Post-SP2 Windows Firewall Information/guidance:
http://snipurl.com/atal

The trouble with the Windows Firewall is that it only keeps things
out. For most people who maintain their system in other ways, this is
MORE than sufficient. However, you may feel otherwise. If you want to
know when one of your applications is trying to obtain access to the
outside world so you can stop it, then you will have to install a
third-party application and configure/maintain it. I have compiled a
list with links of some of the better known/free firewalls you can choose
from:

BlackICE PC Protection (~$39.95 and up)
http://blackice.iss.net/

Jetico Personal Firewall (Free)
http://www.jetico.com/index.htm#/jpfirewall.htm

Kerio Personal Firewall (KPF) (Free and up)
http://www.kerio.com/kpf_download.html

Outpost Firewall from Agnitum (Free and up)
http://www.agnitum.com/download/

Sygate Personal Firewall (Free and up)
http://smb.sygate.com/buy/download_buy.htm

Symantec's Norton Personal Firewall (~$25 and up)
http://www.symantec.com/sabu/nis/npf/

ZoneAlarm (Free and up)
http://snipurl.com/6ohg

You should find the right firewall for your situation in that
list and set it up.

Every firewall WILL require some maintenance. Essentially checking for
patches or upgrades (this goes for hardware and software solutions) is
the extent of this maintenance - you may also have to configure your
firewall to allow some traffic depending on your needs.

** Don't stack the software firewalls! Running more than one software
firewall will not make you safer - it would possibly negate some
protection you gleamed from one or the other firewall you run.


Now that you have some of the more basic things down..
Let's go through some of the steps you should take periodically to
maintain a healthy and stable windows computer. If you have not
done some of these things in the past, they may seem tedious - however,
they will become routine and some can even be automatically scheduled.


Tip (6):
The system restore feature is a new one - first appearing in Windows
ME and then sticking around for Windows XP. It is a useful feature
if you keep it maintained and use it to your advantage. Remember that
the system restore pretty much tells you in the name what it protects
which is 'system' files. Your documents, your pictures, your stuff is
NOT system files - so you should also look into some backup solution.

I have seen the automatic system restore go wrong too many times not
to suggest the following.. Whenever you think about it (after doing a
once-over on your machine once a month or so would be optimal) - clear
out your System Restore and create a manual restoration point.

'Why?'

Too many times have I seen the system restore files go corrupt or get
a virus in them, meaning you could not or did not want to restore from
them. By clearing it out periodically you help prevent any corruption
from happening and you make sure you have at least one good "snapshot".
(*This, of course, will erase any previous restore point you have.*)

- Turn off System Restore.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310405
- Reboot the Computer.
- Review the first bullet to turn on System Restore
- Make a Manual Restoration Point.
http://snipurl.com/68nx

That covers your system files, but doesn't do anything for the files
that you are REALLY worried about - yours! For that you need to look
into backups. You can either manually copy your important files, folders,
documents, spreadsheets, emails, contacts, pictures, drawings and so on
to an external location (CD/DVD - any disk of some sort, etc) or you can
use the backup tool that comes with Windows XP:

How To Use Backup to Back Up Files and Folders on Your Computer
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308422

Yes - you still need some sort of external media to store the results
on, but you could schedule the backup to occur when you are not around,
then burn the resultant data onto CD or DVD or something when you are
(while you do other things!)

A lot of people have wondered about how to completely backup their system
so that they would not have to go through the trouble of a reinstall..
I'm going to voice my opinion here and say that it would be worthless to
do for MOST people. Unless you plan on periodically updating the image
backup of your system (remaking it) - then by the time you use it
(something goes wrong) - it will be so outdated as to be more trouble than
performing a full install of the operating system and all applications.

Having said my part against it, you can clone/backup your hard drive
completely using many methods - by far the simplest are using disk cloning
applications:

Symantec/Norton Ghost
http://www.symantec.com/sabu/ghost/

Acronis True Image
http://www.acronis.com/homecomputing/products/trueimage


Tip (7):
You should sometimes look through the list of applications that are
installed on your computer. The list may surprise you. There are more
than likely things in there you know you never use - so why have them
there? There may even be things you know you did *not* install and
certainly do not use (maybe don't WANT to use.)

This web site should help you get started at looking through this list:

How to Uninstall Programs
http://snipurl.com/8v6b

A word of warning - Do NOT uninstall anything you think you MIGHT need
in the future unless you have completed Tip (1) and have the installation
media and proper keys for use backed up somewhere safe!


Tip (8):
Patches and Updates!

This one cannot be stressed enough. It is SO simple, yet so neglected
by many people. It is especially simple for the critical Windows patches!
Microsoft put in an AUTOMATED feature for you to utilize so that you do
NOT have to worry yourself about the patching of the Operating System:

How to configure and use Automatic Updates in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/306525

However, not everyone wants to be a slave to automation, and that is
fine. Admittedly, I prefer this method on some of my more critical
systems.

Windows Update
http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/

Go there and scan your machine for updates. Always get the critical ones
as you see them. Write down the KB###### or Q###### you see when
selecting the updates and if you have trouble over the next few days,
go into your control panel (Add/Remove Programs), insure that the
'Show Updates' checkbox is checked and match up the latest numbers you
downloaded recently (since you started noticing an issue) and uninstall
them. If there was more than one (usually is), uninstall them one by one
with a few hours of use in between, to see if the problem returns.
Yes - the process is not perfect (updating) and can cause trouble like I
mentioned - but as you can see, the solution isn't that bad - and is
MUCH better than the alternatives.

Windows is not the only product you likely have on your PC. The
manufacturers of the other products usually have updates. New versions
of almost everything come out all the time - some are free, some are pay
and some you can only download if you are registered - but it is best
to check. Just go to their web pages and look under their support and
download sections. For example, for Microsoft Office you should visit:

Microsoft Office Updates
http://office.microsoft.com/
(and select 'Check for Updates' and/or 'Downloads' for more)

You also have hardware on your machine that requires drivers to interface
with the operating system. You have a video card that allows you to see on
your screen, a sound card that allows you to hear your PCs sound output and
so on. Visit those manufacturer web sites for the latest downloadable
drivers for your hardware/operating system. Always get the manufacturers'
hardware driver over any Microsoft offers. On the Windows Update site I
mentioned earlier, I suggest NOT getting their hardware drivers - no matter
how tempting.

How do you know what hardware you have in your computer? Break out the
invoice or if it is up and working now - take inventory:

Belarc Advisor
http://belarc.com/free_download.html

EVEREST Home Edition
http://www.lavalys.com/products/download.php?pid=1&lang=en

Once you know what you have, what next? Go get the latest driver for your
hardware/OS from the manufacturer's web page. For example, let's say you
have an NVidia chipset video card or ATI video card, perhaps a Creative
Labs sound card or C-Media chipset sound card...

NVidia Video Card Drivers
http://www.nvidia.com/content/drivers/drivers.asp

ATI Video Card Drivers
http://www.atitech.com/support/driver.html

Creative Labs Sound Device
http://us.creative.com/support/downloads/

C-Media Sound Device
http://www.cmedia.com.tw/e_download_01.htm

Then install these drivers. Updated drivers are usually more stable and
may provide extra benefits/features that you really wished you had before.

As for Service Pack 2 (SP2) for Windows XP, Microsoft has made this
particular patch available in a number of ways. First, there is the
Windows Update web page above. Then there is a direct download site
and finally, you can order the FREE CD from Microsoft.

Direct Download of Service Pack 2 (SP2) for Windows XP
http://snipurl.com/8bqy

Order the Free Windows XP SP2 CD
http://snipurl.com/8umo

If all else fails - grab the full download above and try to use that.
In this case - consider yourself a 'IT professional or developer'.


Tip (9):
What about the dreaded word in the computer world, VIRUS?

Well, there are many products to choose from that will help you prevent
infections from these horrid little applications. Many are FREE to the
home user and which you choose is a matter of taste, really. Many people
have emotional attachments or performance issues with one or another
AntiVirus software. Try some out, read reviews and decide for yourself
which you like more:

( Good Comparison Page for AV software: http://www.av-comparatives.org/ )

AntiVir (Free and up)
http://www.free-av.com/

avast! (Free and up)
http://www.avast.com/

AVG Anti-Virus System (Free and up)
http://free.grisoft.com/

eset NOD32 (~$39.00 and up)
http://www.eset.com/products/products.htm

eTrust EZ Antivirus (~$29.95 and up)
http://ca.com/store/home/us/hp2/

Kaspersky Anti-Virus (~$49.95 and up)
http://www.kaspersky.com/products.html

McAfee VirusScan (~$11 and up)
http://www.mcafee.com/

Panda Antivirus Titanium (~$39.95 and up)
http://www.pandasoftware.com/
(Free Online Scanner: http://www.pandasoftware.com/activescan/)

RAV AntiVirus Online Virus Scan (Free!)
http://www.ravantivirus.com/scan/

Symantec (Norton) AntiVirus (~$11 and up)
http://www.symantec.com/nav/nav_9xnt/

Trend Micro (~$49.95 and up)
http://www.trendmicro.com/en/home/us/personal.htm
(Free Online Scanner:
http://housecall.trendmicro.com/housecall/start_corp.asp)


Most of them have automatic update capabilities. You will have to
look into the features of the one you choose. Whatever one you finally
settle with - be SURE to keep it updated (I recommend at least daily) and
perform a full scan periodically (yes, most protect you actively, but a
full scan once a month at 4AM probably won't bother you.)


Tip (10):
The most rampant infestation at the current time concerns SPYWARE/ADWARE.
You need to eliminate it from your machine.

There is no one software that cleans and immunizes you against
everything. Antivirus software - you only needed one. Firewall, you
only needed one. AntiSpyware - you will need several. I have a list and
I recommend you use at least the first five.

First - make sure you have NOT installed "Rogue AntiSpyware". There are
people out there who created AntiSpyware products that actually install
spyware of their own! You need to avoid these:

Rogue/Suspect Anti-Spyware Products & Web Sites
http://www.spywarewarrior.com/rogue_anti-spyware.htm

Also, you can always visit this site..
http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/unwanted.htm
For more updated information.

Install the first five of these: (Install, Run, Update, Scan with..)
(If you already have one or more - uninstall them and download the
LATEST version from the page given!)

Lavasoft AdAware (Free and up)
http://www.lavasoft.de/support/download/
(How-to: http://snipurl.com/atdn )

Spybot Search and Destroy (Free!)
http://www.safer-networking.net/en/download/index.html
(How-to: http://snipurl.com/atdk )

Bazooka Adware and Spyware Scanner (Free!)
http://www.kephyr.com/spywarescanner/
(How-to: http://snipurl.com/ate3 )

SpywareBlaster (Free!)
http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/sbdownload.html
(How-to: http://snipurl.com/ate6 )

IE-SPYAD2 (Free!)
https://netfiles.uiuc.edu/ehowes/www/resource.htm
(How-to: http://snipurl.com/ate7 )

CWShredder Stand-Alone (Free!)
http://www.intermute.com/spysubtract/cwshredder_download.html

Hijack This! (Free!)
http://www.spywareinfo.com/~merijn/downloads.html
(Log Analyzer: http://hjt.iamnotageek.com/ )

ToolbarCop (Free!)
http://windowsxp.mvps.org/toolbarcop.htm

Microsoft AntiSpyware BETA (in testing stages - Free!)
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/spyware/software/
(How-to: http://snipurl.com/fqur )

Browser Security Tests (Free Tester)
http://www.jasons-toolbox.com/BrowserSecurity/

Popup Tester (Free Tester)
http://www.popuptest.com/

The Cleaner (~$49.95 and up)
http://www.moosoft.com/

Sometimes you need to install the application and reboot into SAFE MODE in
order to thoroughly clean your computer. Many applications also have
(or are) immunization applications. Spybot Search and Destroy and
SpywareBlaster are two that currently do the best job at passively
protecting your system from malware. None of these programs (in these
editions) run in the background unless you TELL them to. The space they
take up and how easy they are to use greatly makes up for any inconvenience
you may be feeling.

Please notice that Windows XP SP2 does help stop popups as well.

Another option is to use an alternative Web browser. I suggest
'Mozilla Firefox', as it has some great features and is very easy to use:

Mozilla Firefox
http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/


So your machine is pretty clean and up to date now. If you use the sections
above as a guide, it should stay that way as well! There are still a few
more things you can do to keep your machine running in top shape.


Tip (11):
You should periodically check your hard drive(s) for errors and defragment
them. Only defragment after you have cleaned up your machine of
outside parasites and never defragment as a solution to a quirkiness in
your system. It may help speed up your system, but it should be clean
before you do this. Do these things IN ORDER...

How to use Disk Cleanup
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310312

How to scan your disks for errors
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/315265

How to Defragment your hard drives
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314848

I would personally perform the above steps at least once every three months.
For most people this should be sufficient, but if the difference you notice
afterwards is greater than you think it should be, lessen the time in
between its schedule.. If the difference you notice is negligible, you can
increase the time.


Tip (12):
SPAM! JUNK MAIL!
This one can get annoying, just like the rest. You get 50 emails in one
sitting and 2 of them you wanted. NICE! (Not.) What can you do? Well,
although there are services out there to help you, some email
servers/services that actually do lower your spam with features built into
their servers - I still like the methods that let you be the end-decision
maker on what is spam and what is not. I have two products to suggest to
you, look at them and see if either of them suite your needs. Again, if
they don't, Google is free and available for your perusal.

SpamBayes (Free!)
http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/

Spamihilator (Free!)
http://www.spamihilator.com/

As I said, those are not your only options, but are reliable ones I have
seen function for hundreds+ people.


Tip (13):
ADVANCED TIP! Only do this once you are comfortable under the hood of your
computer!

There are lots of services on your PC that are probably turned on by default
you don't use. Why have them on? Check out these web pages to see what all
of the services you might find on your computer are and set them according
to your personal needs. Be CAREFUL what you set to manual, and take heed
and write down as you change things! Also, don't expect a large performance
increase or anything - especially on today's 2+ GHz machines, however - I
look at each service you set to manual as one less service you have to worry
about someone exploiting.

Configuring Services
http://snakefoot.fateback.com/tweak/winnt/services.html

Task List Programs
http://www.answersthatwork.com/Tasklist_pages/tasklist.htm

Processes in Windows NT/2000/XP
http://www.reger24.de/prozesse/

There are also applications that AREN'T services that startup when you start
up the computer/logon. One of the better description on how to handle these
I have found here:

Startups
http://www.pacs-portal.co.uk/startup_content.php


If you follow the advice laid out above (and do some of your own research as
well, so you understand what you are doing) - your computer will stay fairly
stable and secure and you will have a more trouble-free system.
 
Hi Again,
Firstly I would just like to thankeveryone for all your advice. It has
helped me tremendouly. I have ben able to bypass the passwords on Xp and the
bios and clean install on Machine number One. So far it appears to be working
fine however, i have not yet had time to install all the software and drivers.

I have begun to work on Machine number two. I bypassed the passwords and
began the clean install. However iwas unable to get passed the
wiping/deleting the partition before it crashed. It did this several times.
So i opened the casing and had a look inside. A word of warning Im not very
good a recgonising stuff on the motherboard but i know the basics. It seem
that there is a fan or cooling system missing from AMD built in chip. I know
this because i opened the othermachine (the one that is working) and it has a
fan thingy over a big chip. (probably the teenagers who nicked it for their
own machines)

I looked the motherboard (Gigabyte 7DXE) up on the net and this chip is the
AMD 761
This of course does not mean much to me execpt i know it is important. So my
next question is "should this chip have a cooling fan and if so where do i
get one" I looked on the Gigabyte web-site but im not sure what im looking
for.

Thanks and any advice is very welcome.
Beachlover.
 
Beachlover said:
Hi Again,
Firstly I would just like to thankeveryone for all your advice. It has
helped me tremendouly. I have ben able to bypass the passwords on Xp
and the bios and clean install on Machine number One. So far it
appears to be working fine however, i have not yet had time to install
all the software and drivers.

I have begun to work on Machine number two. I bypassed the passwords
and began the clean install. However iwas unable to get passed the
wiping/deleting the partition before it crashed. It did this several
times. So i opened the casing and had a look inside. A word of warning
Im not very good a recgonising stuff on the motherboard but i know the
basics. It seem that there is a fan or cooling system missing from AMD
built in chip. I know this because i opened the othermachine (the one
that is working) and it has a fan thingy over a big chip. (probably
the teenagers who nicked it for their own machines)

I looked the motherboard (Gigabyte 7DXE) up on the net and this chip
is the AMD 761
This of course does not mean much to me execpt i know it is important.
So my next question is "should this chip have a cooling fan and if so
where do i get one" I looked on the Gigabyte web-site but im not sure
what im looking for.

Yes and if you turned on an AMD processor machine without a fan, the
processor is probably toast. Throw it out.

Malke
 
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Recovery etc you may go for the Book "Data Recovery with & without
Programming"

You can Find the Details and Contents of the book on following Link:

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The Book Also has a Free CD with it, which has all the Source Codes of
the Programs, described within the Book

Regards

TT
 
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