Official Release of IE8

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webster72n

As of this morning 9:00 AM EST, Microsoft officially released its IE 8
browser, therewith shedding the 'beta status'.

Harry.
 
As of this morning 9:00 AM EST, Microsoft officially released its IE 8
browser, therewith shedding the 'beta status'.

Harry.
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Still bug ridden and known incompatible with at least 2400 sites?

This ought to do wonders for their reputation after the disaster of
Vista.
 
webster72n said:
As of this morning 9:00 AM EST, Microsoft officially released its IE 8
browser, therewith shedding the 'beta status'.

Harry.
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And download it at your own risk.

Alias
 
Alias said:
And download it at your own risk.
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I'ld feel a lot more comfortable with IE 8 than I would with 'ubuntu'.
It can't even activate my printer, although finding it, and is unable to
provide the means for internet access on a VPC. But that's another story...
 
webster72n said:
As of this morning 9:00 AM EST, Microsoft officially released its IE 8
browser, therewith shedding the 'beta status'.

Harry.
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It appeared at 12:00pm EDT, and shedded it's RC status.. :-)
 
Mike Hall - MVP said:
It appeared at 12:00pm EDT, and shedded it's RC status.. :-)
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Thanks for specifications, but isn't RC virtually the same as beta?
I stand corrected if otherwise.
 
webster72n said:
Mike Hall - MVP said:
It appeared at 12:00pm EDT, and shedded it's RC status.. :-)
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Thanks for specifications, but isn't RC virtually the same as beta?
I stand corrected if otherwise.


It is only a step beyond Beta., essentially a "can we get away with
releasing it now" version.. . I was just being a little pedantic.. :-)

By 12:05, I had installed IE8, and it works for me. I have been told that
there may be one or two issues which may need attention, but I am your basic
browser and as long as it browses, I don't care..
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measekite's psychiatrist said:
It's not. Just a little something other than fighting and throwing insults
:-)
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OK, let's see, where is it? Maybe I've had enough ... aaaaaaaaaaaah,
there it is, hiding behind the mouse.

Well, doc, this toke's for you.

Alias
 
webster72n said:
Thanks for specifications, but isn't RC virtually the same as beta?
I stand corrected if otherwise.
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It's a rank above, although now it's in the "let's see what happens to
the general public" phase.

Alias
 
Alias said:
webster72n said:
Thanks for specifications, but isn't RC virtually the same as beta?
I stand corrected if otherwise.
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It's a rank above, although now it's in the "let's see what happens to the
general public" phase.

Alias

Yes.. JJ will be in the same position very soon, will it not.. and it is
hardly bristling with new features, is it.. more of the same as is true of
almost all Ubuntu releases.

Maybe they should try giving it away using the same marketing strategy as
AOL and mail a CD to every home in the western hemisphere weekly, or maybe
include it in Kellogg's cereal boxes..
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Mike said:
Yes.. JJ will be in the same position very soon, will it not.. and it is
hardly bristling with new features, is it.. more of the same as is true
of almost all Ubuntu releases.
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I have found that since I have been using Ubuntu, it's a steady
improvement from one version to another, getting better and better each
time.
Maybe they should try giving it away using the same marketing strategy
as AOL and mail a CD to every home in the western hemisphere weekly, or
maybe include it in Kellogg's cereal boxes..
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No need with the bandwidth available today. People need to hear about it
and learn how to install/use it. Don't sell the public short as they are
a lot more tech savvy today than they were back when AOL scammed the
Americans with AOL. Microsoft was smarter: they scammed the world with
preinstalled Windows contracts with major OEMs.

Alias
 
Alias said:
I have found that since I have been using Ubuntu, it's a steady
improvement from one version to another, getting better and better each
time.


No need with the bandwidth available today. People need to hear about it
and learn how to install/use it. Don't sell the public short as they are a
lot more tech savvy today than they were back when AOL scammed the
Americans with AOL. Microsoft was smarter: they scammed the world with
preinstalled Windows contracts with major OEMs.

Alias
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People embrace technology more than they did, but it does not follow that
they understand it. The major advantage which Windows has over Linux is that
it can be fixed by a tech savvy relative, friend, mom and pop operation or
major store. Finding out how to work a Windows application is easy for the
same reason. Other than forums and newsgroups, Linux users are on their own.

Why do companies used Linux and Unix distributions which have to paid for?
Because they want somebody at the end of a phone who can fix their problems
instantly, and they want that support 24/7. The free Linux distros fall way
short in this regard..
 
IE8 may be a little picky since it's new. I have been using it thru the beta
testing. I think its the best IE yet. It's packed with features and security
that microsoft used from listening to what customers wanted in a browser.
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GrantB said:
But is is ready? I downloaded I.E.8 and went to my companies site.

The front page of the site, which is very simple, clean PHP, is messed
up in IE8.
The same page validates as 100% clean XHTML with the w3 validation
tool. The page looks fine in Firefox, Safari, Chrome, IE7 or IE8 with
compatibility mode.

So.. IE8 can't render XHTML right?

I tried to find some way of reporting sites to MS so that they could
take a look & figure out if it was the site or IE8.. but haven't found
anything yet.
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Sounds like the site is tailored for IE7 quirks, and needs to be altered for
IE8 as a standards compliant browser. The PHP may even be turning to IE6
specific code after misunderstanding the IE8 user-agent string.
Compatibilty mode just makes the browser render with IE7 quirks and sends
out a IE7 user-agent string.

The site just needs to be updated to understand that IE8 is finally
standards compliant, rather than anything actually being wrong with IE8.

ss.
 
Sounds like the site is tailored for IE7 quirks, and needs to be altered for
IE8 as a standards compliant browser. The PHP may even be turning to IE6
specific code after misunderstanding the IE8 user-agent string.
Compatibilty mode just makes the browser render with IE7 quirks and sends
out a IE7 user-agent string.

The site just needs to be updated to understand that IE8 is finally
standards compliant, rather than anything actually being wrong with IE8.
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I think you missed the part where he said "The same page validates as
100% clean XHTML with the w3 validation tool. "

The W3 is the definition of standards compatibility.
 
+Bob+ said:
I think you missed the part where he said "The same page validates as
100% clean XHTML with the w3 validation tool. "

The W3 is the definition of standards compatibility.
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I think you missed the part where he said that it was a dynamic PHP page.
The W3C Validator is not going to check what the PHP scripting puts into the
page, so whether the XHTML container validates or not is irrelevant. He
should have been validating the CSS anyway - not the XHTML - there is a
separate test for that.

Does he want to give a link, so I can see?

If not, if he changes IE8's user-agent string to, say, Firefox 3, and the
page then renders fine, then it is not a problem with IE8, and the site
needs to be updated for IE8 in Standards Mode, or if they cannot be
bothered, to make the page invoke IE8 in Quirks Mode.

http://www.enhanceie.com/ietoys/uapick.asp

ss.
 
Synapse Syndrome said:
I think you missed the part where he said that it was a dynamic PHP page.
The W3C Validator is not going to check what the PHP scripting puts into
the page, so whether the XHTML container validates or not is
irrelevant. He should have been validating the CSS anyway - not the
XHTML - there is a separate test for that.

Does he want to give a link, so I can see?

If not, if he changes IE8's user-agent string to, say, Firefox 3, and the
page then renders fine, then it is not a problem with IE8, and the site
needs to be updated for IE8 in Standards Mode, or if they cannot be
bothered, to make the page invoke IE8 in Quirks Mode.

http://www.enhanceie.com/ietoys/uapick.asp
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Oh, and BTW, I am not someone that is too shy to criticise MS when it is
deserved, but making IE8 use Standards Mode by default was a pretty brave
decision, as there is now going to be a torrent of people unfairly
complaining about it being broken, when they misunderstand what is really
going on.

ss.
 
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