Off Topic but looking for help

[DonLogan]

Building a new PC. First in a few years. Thought it might be painless,
but guess what? The old dreaded blue screens & freezes.
Hardware, software, drivers OS (XP MCE)? Here we go again!!
Where is the best place these types of problems.
thanks

 

[Rod Speed]

Building a new PC. First in a few years. Thought it might be painless,
but guess what? The old dreaded blue screens & freezes.
Hardware, software, drivers OS (XP MCE)? Here we go again!!
Where is the best place these types of problems.

alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt

24hoursupport.helpdesk if your dont mind a high level of mindless shit.

 

[timeOday]

Building a new PC. First in a few years. Thought it might be painless,
but guess what? The old dreaded blue screens & freezes.
Hardware, software, drivers OS (XP MCE)? Here we go again!!
Where is the best place these types of problems.
thanks

Isn't it amazing how after all these years,
stuff STILL doesn't just work?

 

[Arno Wagner]

Isn't it amazing how after all these years,
stuff STILL doesn't just work?

Aparently there is no real business case for this in the PC world.
Look at MACs. They are (for a long time now) pretty close to the
"just works" ideal. But they are a bit more expensive. Seems to
me the average customer is either incompetent or does not want to
pay for "just works".

Arno

 

[Jerry Peters]

Aparently there is no real business case for this in the PC world.
Look at MACs. They are (for a long time now) pretty close to the
"just works" ideal. But they are a bit more expensive. Seems to
me the average customer is either incompetent or does not want to
pay for "just works".

Arno

But there's a _big_ difference between everything contolled by a
single vendor and the mess of poorly specified standards that
constitutes the pc world.

Jerry

 

[Arno Wagner]

But there's a _big_ difference between everything contolled by a
single vendor and the mess of poorly specified standards that
constitutes the pc world.

Of course. But if you want "just works", you can buy a Mac,
and have been able to do so for a long time now. Most people
did not. It seems price is more important.

Arno

 

[Rod Speed]

Of course. But if you want "just works", you can buy a Mac,
and have been able to do so for a long time now. Most people
did not. It seems price is more important.

Nope, what they are used to OS and apps wise is.

There's plenty of other systems that just work, most obviously with laptops.

 

[Curious George]

Of course. But if you want "just works", you can buy a Mac,
and have been able to do so for a long time now. Most people
did not. It seems price is more important.

Arno

If you want "just works" and "Wintel" you need to buy a "workstation"
or "server" caliber PC, and/or carefully hand select components (of
that caliber). And yes these boxes still cost a lot less than a
comparable Mac.

Wintel is attractive to a lot of ppl because there is such a large
user base which has great leverage towards supporting products,
compatibility, and a highly competitive software & hardware market. So
yes price is important when one platform appears grossly overpriced
and restrictive. (flame away)

 

[Rod Speed]

If you want "just works" and "Wintel" you need to buy a "workstation" or
"server" caliber PC, and/or carefully hand select components (of that caliber).

Mindless stuff, most obviously with the hordes of laptops flogged that 'just work'

The problem isnt any purported need to 'carefully hand select
components', all you actually need to do is avoid some bad
combinations that produce the effect the OP was howling
about. Not a shred of rocket science required at all.

And yes these boxes still cost a lot less than a comparable Mac.

Wintel is attractive to a lot of ppl because there is such a large
user base which has great leverage towards supporting products,
compatibility, and a highly competitive software & hardware market.

And if you buy an adequate packaged 'solution' it will 'just work' fine.

 

[Curious George]

Mindless stuff, most obviously with the hordes of laptops flogged that 'just work'

Laptops. Hmm. I guess you mean "just overheat."

The problem isnt any purported need to 'carefully hand select
components', all you actually need to do is avoid some bad
combinations that produce the effect the OP was howling
about. Not a shred of rocket science required at all.

No. No "rocket science" needed indeed. Only familiarity with what is
crap and what is over hyped.

And if you buy an adequate packaged 'solution' it will 'just work' fine.

Right. It's called a "workstation" or "server" level package. If you
need a laptop that works it's usually called a "mobile workstation" or
"business laptop" or the like.

 

[Rod Speed]

Laptops. Hmm. I guess you mean "just overheat."

Guess again. Mine doesnt overheat.

No. No "rocket science" needed indeed. Only
familiarity with what is crap and what is over hyped.

So your original claim is clearly just plain silly.

Right. It's called a "workstation" or "server" level package.

Wrong, as always. Plenty of desktops 'just work' fine.

If you need a laptop that works it's usually called a
"mobile workstation" or "business laptop" or the like.

How odd that mine which works isnt.

Keep desperately digging, you'll be out in china any day now. Again.

 

[Curious George]

Guess again. Mine doesnt overheat.

Likely because you only manage very light use on it.

So your original claim is clearly just plain silly.

Still flailing about in that wet paper bag, I see.

Wrong, as always. Plenty of desktops 'just work' fine.

And plenty don't, as well. Pointing to 1 or 2 cheap but decent
desktops totally misses the point.

How odd that mine which works isnt.

You're too clueless for any of us to trust your reliability or
compatibility standards.

Keep desperately digging, you'll be out in china any day now. Again.

No. I haven't the time to waste following you on the path you tread
and re-dig daily.

 

[Rod Speed]

Likely because you only manage very light use on it.

Wrong, as always.

Still flailing about in that wet paper bag, I see.

Cant even manage it own lines...

And plenty don't, as well.

Wrong when they are bought packaged.

Pointing to 1 or 2 cheap but decent desktops totally misses the point.

Never ever could bullshit its way out of a wet paper bag.

You're too clueless for any of us to trust
your reliability or compatibility standards.

Yep.

I haven't the time to waste following you on the path you tread and re-dig daily.

Never ever could bullshit its way out of a wet paper bag.

 

[chrisv]

Isn't it amazing how after all these years,
stuff STILL doesn't just work?

Works for me. I've been slapping-together various HW for years and it
always works. I do stick with Intel-based motherboards, though...
Not that there's anything wrong with AMD, but I wouldn't touch an ALi
chipset with a 10-foot poll.

 

[John Turco]

Works for me. I've been slapping-together various HW for years and it
always works. I do stick with Intel-based motherboards, though...
Not that there's anything wrong with AMD, but I wouldn't touch an ALi
chipset with a 10-foot poll.

Hello, Chris:

And >I< wouldn't touch any ALi-based USB card, with a 20' pole!


Cordially,
John Turco <[email protected]>