OEM and Generic in the same Printer?

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Is it ok in a Inkjet printer to have lets say OEM Black, OEM Cyan, OEM
Magenta and GENERIC Yellow together?

In other words, if you switch to generic, do you have to switch ALL the OEM
to generic at the same time or one by one as each individual OEM cartridge
runs out?

Thanks,

Jeff
 
Jeff said:
Is it ok in a Inkjet printer to have lets say OEM Black, OEM Cyan, OEM
Magenta and GENERIC Yellow together?

In other words, if you switch to generic, do you have to switch ALL the
OEM to generic at the same time or one by one as each individual OEM
cartridge runs out?

Thanks,

Jeff
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There are two points here; the first being that the generic be of decent and
reasonable quality as to not hurt the printer itself. The second is if the
color quality will be accurate enough to compare with the OEM.

Using good quality generic inks with OEM Epson printers I've found there
to be no problem mixing the generics to OEM as I change over. I have no
experience with Lexmark, Canon, or HP in doing this maneuver so you may have
to wait for someone else with some use using generics for those brands.
Epect hear from the resident troll who will wow you great heghts with
fire and brimstone should you attempt to use anything but OEM ink in your
machine. After using generic inks in more than 80 Epson printers for over 10
years I'm still waiting for his promise to come true.
 
Important follow-up question:

If I have currently a CFS system (For my Epson 880) with the external
reservoirs.

Let's say those external plastic reservoirs are running low on ink and I
haven't yet ordered bulk replacement ink, is it ok, to use dollar store
black/cyan/magenta/yellow to these getting empty CFS external reservoirs,
in other words (will mixing the CFS inks to dollar store inks do any
damage?)

Jeff
 
Important follow-up question:

If I have currently a CFS system (For my Epson 880) with the external
reservoirs.

Let's say those external plastic reservoirs are running low on ink and I
haven't yet ordered bulk replacement ink, is it ok, to use dollar store
black/cyan/magenta/yellow to these getting empty CFS external reservoirs,
in other words (will mixing the CFS inks to dollar store inks do any
damage?)
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I wouldn't use dollar store ink. Universal ink just isn't, you can
easily see the difference. A change in viscosity can really change
the results. In fact, my dollar store offers solvent based bulk ink
which "might" work but it's not something I'd try. In terms of cost,
I know costco offered the IMS kit at about $1/oz. I used it on my
Epson and it "worked" but the head leaked, likely because the stuff
they offer is rather thin.
 
Jeff said:
Is it ok in a Inkjet printer to have lets say OEM Black, OEM Cyan, OEM
Magenta and GENERIC Yellow together?

In other words, if you switch to generic, do you have to switch ALL the
OEM to generic at the same time or one by one as each individual OEM
cartridge runs out?

Thanks,

Jeff
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I've never had any problem in that regard with the HP carts that I've
refilled. Because the heads are contained on the carts, it's best to
refill BEFORE the cart runs out of ink. That means there's always at
least some OEM ink in a new cartridge the first time I refill it. Just
be sure to avoid "universal" generic inks. "Universal" inks are usually
dye-based, and might not mix well with the pigment-based inks used in
some printers.

TJ
 
MY Epson CFS system for the 880 says it will work with dye based, pigment,
or dyesublimation inks. Says it will not work with solvent based inks.

Just curious as to whether dollare store ink is dyebased, pigment ,
dysublimation or solvent based, anyone know?

The dollare store ink are those round plastic conatainers that come with a
syringe, I suppose theres 1 ounce of ink in them.


I', also trying to figure out if the original epson 880 inks are pigment/dye
based , dyesublimation or solvent based..

The CFS system I ordered came with dye based ink,

Jeff
 
TJ said:
I've never had any problem in that regard with the HP carts that I've
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TJ..... Is there a good ink you can recommend for an hp cartridge. Am using
a HP C5280 AIO printer which uses Vivera ink. I have refilled a few times
using "universal" but would like to use a good quality ink if there is such
a thing... Thanks
 
Jeff said:
MY Epson CFS system for the 880 says it will work with dye based, pigment,
or dyesublimation inks. Says it will not work with solvent based inks.

Just curious as to whether dollare store ink is dyebased, pigment ,
dysublimation or solvent based, anyone know?

The dollare store ink are those round plastic conatainers that come with a
syringe, I suppose theres 1 ounce of ink in them.


I', also trying to figure out if the original epson 880 inks are
pigment/dye based , dyesublimation or solvent based..

The CFS system I ordered came with dye based ink,

Jeff
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The 880 uses dye-base ink. IMHO one of the best 4 color printers Epson ever
made; good quality printing, quiet, fast, and cheap to run with non-chipped
generic cartridges.


Jan Alter
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Justin said:
TJ..... Is there a good ink you can recommend for an hp cartridge. Am
using a HP C5280 AIO printer which uses Vivera ink. I have refilled a
few times using "universal" but would like to use a good quality ink if
there is such a thing... Thanks
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I'm the wrong person to answer that question. The only things I know
about this come from personal experience, and mine is rather limited, as
are my requirements. I have used kits I bought at garage sales and bulk
black ink that I purchased online, but when I made those purchases I was
looking at price rather than quality. However, each kit I purchased was
labeled as being specifically for HP printers. I was lucky, as my prints
look good to me in spite of using cheap inks. I have learned from the
experience, and when I get these inks used up I will be looking for
better quality myself.

TJ
 
It really depends on how close the formulation is to the OEM version.
Some 3rd party inks can interact negatively with the OEM ink, causing
the print to go "funny'. In rare causes it could cause some clogging,
since the heads are often ganged together and ink migrates between them
a bit. To test, mix some OEM ink with some of the 3rd party and see if
they interact badly, creating anything that looks like it is clotting,
for instance.

The most common problem is color accuracy being lost. If that isn't
critical, you'll probably be fine, but usually the ink color profiles
differ from OEM, and mixing them makes it nearly impossible to get a
very accurate color image, since the inks are independent and a moving
target if you changes one at a time.

It may be worth it in your case, if accuracy of color isn't critical.

Art


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Now you are probably pushing your luck. Again, at teh end it all
depends upon the inks in use and those the dollar store is supplying.

Some printers use OEM pigment colorant inks, most dollar store inks are
dye based rather than pigment. How well they mix is an unknown until tried.

Most dollar store inks are "generic" which differs from 3rd party inks.
Generic inks tend to claim they can be used with a fairly wide variety
of brands and inkjet printer models. This is less likely to be true,
relative to inks the companies themselves design for their printer, or
similar equivalent inks formulated for a bit more money. Personally, I
would keep my distance for so-called dollar store inks unless they
indicated fairly restricted use by model type.

Art


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The original (OEM) Epson inks for the 880 were indeed dye based. Since
dye colorant inks are the cheapest to produce, have the best shelf life
and are the most ubiquitous of all inkjet printer inks, I'm guessing the
dollar store inks are also dye colorant based. The problem is what type
of dyes were used, and what is the base for the inks.

Cheap inks tend to be very fade prone, if that is an issue, as well.

Art



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In message <[email protected]> Arthur Entlich
Personally, I
would keep my distance for so-called dollar store inks unless they
indicated fairly restricted use by model type.
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The generics will respond to this by creating different SKUs and labels
for identical products, rendering this particular technique moot.
 
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