OE and Outlook sharing

[April]

Hi

I am following instructions using
http://www.slipstick.com/contacts/oeshare.htm and have entered a DWORD named
UseOutlook=1 in the registry. Then added a new Contact to OE (ver 6) and
it did not appear in Outlook (2000) default contacts folder. The
Outlook.exe is not running in Task Manager.

Any ideas as to what went wrong? Thank you.

 

[Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]]

You misunderstand. That key allows Outlook to share with the WAB, not the
reverse.

 

[April]

I have a dilemma: I want to use Outlook for all my mail but todate, I found
been advised that if I try to view my Hotmail account, I have to "live" with
the way the screen appears to "refresh" when you view the Inbox and Bulk
Mail. I view those 2 folders the most and hardly ever use my default email
account. This I find very diffictult on the eye. I need Outlook because I
sync all my Contacts with my mobile phone.

My initial thoughts were : I would use OE to send and receive for the
Hotmail and Default mail account. I would set it so that the email
addresses are added to the WAB and therefore it would update Outlook (I
thought, but you have advised it is not possible to enter contacts in the
WAB and expect Outlook to be updated). Then I thought my Contacts would all
be in one place and then be able to sync with my mobile.

I also only want one Contacts list, and I want to use Outlook. What's the
best way of deleteing the WAB file - manaully select all or just delete the
WAB file itself?

Have others had the same problem and is there an easy solution?

Cheers.

You misunderstand. That key allows Outlook to share with the WAB, not the
reverse.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]

Hi

I am following instructions using
http://www.slipstick.com/contacts/oeshare.htm and have entered a DWORD
named UseOutlook=1 in the registry. Then added a new Contact to OE (ver
6) and it did not appear in Outlook (2000) default contacts folder. The
Outlook.exe is not running in Task Manager.

Any ideas as to what went wrong? Thank you.

 

[Mark J. McGinty]

I have a dilemma: I want to use Outlook for all my mail but todate, I
found been advised that if I try to view my Hotmail account, I have to
"live" with the way the screen appears to "refresh" when you view the Inbox
and Bulk Mail. I view those 2 folders the most and hardly ever use my
default email account. This I find very diffictult on the eye. I need
Outlook because I sync all my Contacts with my mobile phone.

My initial thoughts were : I would use OE to send and receive for the
Hotmail and Default mail account. I would set it so that the email
addresses are added to the WAB and therefore it would update Outlook (I
thought, but you have advised it is not possible to enter contacts in the
WAB and expect Outlook to be updated).

Whoa, hold the phone... a.) that Slipstick article explicitly states that
new contacts entered in OE are also seen in Outlook, and; b.) I just tried
it, and it works here. (Outlook 2003; OE6)

I didn't enable it using RegEdit, though, I just used the Tools -> Options
menu in the OE Address Book window.

So possibly worth another look before you write this avenue off.


-Mark

Then I thought my Contacts would all be in one place and then be able to
sync with my mobile.

I also only want one Contacts list, and I want to use Outlook. What's the
best way of deleteing the WAB file - manaully select all or just delete
the WAB file itself?

Have others had the same problem and is there an easy solution?

Cheers.

You misunderstand. That key allows Outlook to share with the WAB, not the
reverse.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]

Hi

I am following instructions using
http://www.slipstick.com/contacts/oeshare.htm and have entered a DWORD
named UseOutlook=1 in the registry. Then added a new Contact to OE (ver
6) and it did not appear in Outlook (2000) default contacts folder.
The Outlook.exe is not running in Task Manager.

Any ideas as to what went wrong? Thank you.

 

[Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]]

False. You didn't read carefully enough. You ignored the disclaimer: "In
certain configurations. " That disclaimer referred to Outlook 2000 in IMO
mode, which was actually Outlook Express. What you claim does not occur in
valid installations of Outlook 2003 unless you upgraded from IMO and have a
corrupt profile.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]

I have a dilemma: I want to use Outlook for all my mail but todate, I
found been advised that if I try to view my Hotmail account, I have to
"live" with the way the screen appears to "refresh" when you view the
Inbox and Bulk Mail. I view those 2 folders the most and hardly ever use
my default email account. This I find very diffictult on the eye. I need
Outlook because I sync all my Contacts with my mobile phone.

My initial thoughts were : I would use OE to send and receive for the
Hotmail and Default mail account. I would set it so that the email
addresses are added to the WAB and therefore it would update Outlook (I
thought, but you have advised it is not possible to enter contacts in the
WAB and expect Outlook to be updated).

Whoa, hold the phone... a.) that Slipstick article explicitly states that
new contacts entered in OE are also seen in Outlook, and; b.) I just tried
it, and it works here. (Outlook 2003; OE6)

I didn't enable it using RegEdit, though, I just used the Tools -> Options
menu in the OE Address Book window.

So possibly worth another look before you write this avenue off.


-Mark

Then I thought my Contacts would all be in one place and then be able to
sync with my mobile.

I also only want one Contacts list, and I want to use Outlook. What's
the best way of deleteing the WAB file - manaully select all or just
delete the WAB file itself?

Have others had the same problem and is there an easy solution?

Cheers.

You misunderstand. That key allows Outlook to share with the WAB, not
the reverse.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
Hi

I am following instructions using
http://www.slipstick.com/contacts/oeshare.htm and have entered a DWORD
named UseOutlook=1 in the registry. Then added a new Contact to OE
(ver 6) and it did not appear in Outlook (2000) default contacts
folder. The Outlook.exe is not running in Task Manager.

Any ideas as to what went wrong? Thank you.

 

[Mark J. McGinty]

False. You didn't read carefully enough. You ignored the disclaimer: "In
certain configurations. " That disclaimer referred to Outlook 2000 in IMO
mode,

*You* didn't read carefully enough, and I really doubt you've ever even
tried it -- and I really don't care for your tone! Why don't you give it
another read? What you're saying is 180 degrees out from that article.
(Rude and mistaken at the same time is a really bad combination.)

which was actually Outlook Express.

That cannot possibly be the case, Outlook 2000 in any mode is not
"actually Outlook Express", it has the Outlook UI, complete with calendar,
task, notes and journal functionality. Also its MAPI interface is not an
extremely limited subset. None of these are true of Outlook Express.
What's more, it lacks the extra functionality that Outlook Express does
have, including the HTML editor and ability to view raw SMTP source.

They are two entirely different products -- where on earth did you get
such a crazy idea? That's the biggest wad of hooey I've seen in some time.

What you claim

What I've observed...

does not occur in valid installations of Outlook 2003 unless you upgraded
from IMO and have a corrupt profile.

Firstly, from what I can see, there is no IMO in Outlook 2003, I just
installed fresh it on a virtual, and the default installation gives you 5
different email server types (including IMAP and Exchange Server) when you
add an account. Also, I do not see the "Reconfigure Mail" button anywhere
in the options dialog. Further still, a search of MSDN for IMO returns a
number of hits, all of them are either exclusively about OL2000, or include
sentences similar to this: "For Outlook 2000, you can install Outlook in the
Internet Mail Only (IMO) mode."

And the proof in the pudding is that, on a brand new, squeaky-clean
installation, absolutely nothing corrupt about it at all, setting the
UseOutlook registry config item WORKS.

The menu item I mentioned may well tie back to something in OL2000; clearly,
if you read and comprehend the Slipstick article, the functionality is
read-only in OL2000...

So, based on observations, testing multiple different configurations, what
you claim differs from what I've observed.

What are your statements based on?


-Mark

--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]

I have a dilemma: I want to use Outlook for all my mail but todate, I
found been advised that if I try to view my Hotmail account, I have to
"live" with the way the screen appears to "refresh" when you view the
Inbox and Bulk Mail. I view those 2 folders the most and hardly ever use
my default email account. This I find very diffictult on the eye. I
need Outlook because I sync all my Contacts with my mobile phone.

My initial thoughts were : I would use OE to send and receive for the
Hotmail and Default mail account. I would set it so that the email
addresses are added to the WAB and therefore it would update Outlook (I
thought, but you have advised it is not possible to enter contacts in
the WAB and expect Outlook to be updated).

Whoa, hold the phone... a.) that Slipstick article explicitly states that
new contacts entered in OE are also seen in Outlook, and; b.) I just
tried it, and it works here. (Outlook 2003; OE6)

I didn't enable it using RegEdit, though, I just used the Tools ->
Options menu in the OE Address Book window.

So possibly worth another look before you write this avenue off.


-Mark

Then I thought my Contacts would all be in one place and then be able to
sync with my mobile.

I also only want one Contacts list, and I want to use Outlook. What's
the best way of deleteing the WAB file - manaully select all or just
delete the WAB file itself?

Have others had the same problem and is there an easy solution?

Cheers.

You misunderstand. That key allows Outlook to share with the WAB, not
the reverse.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
Hi

I am following instructions using
http://www.slipstick.com/contacts/oeshare.htm and have entered a DWORD
named UseOutlook=1 in the registry. Then added a new Contact to OE
(ver 6) and it did not appear in Outlook (2000) default contacts
folder. The Outlook.exe is not running in Task Manager.

Any ideas as to what went wrong? Thank you.

 

[Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]]

Sorry, but it is well established that Outlook 2000 in IMO actually used
Outlook Express address book engine and Simple MAPI for all its transports,
not Outlook's Extended MAPI transports. That is the whole reason it had to
share the WAB and required OE to be installed.
Sharing the WAB by using the Reg hack will have mixed results at best.
Accordingly, it is not recommended that you try to create Outlook Contacts
via the OE interface. It may work in some situations but is not a reliable
way to create Contacts as the OP discovered.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]

False. You didn't read carefully enough. You ignored the disclaimer: "In
certain configurations. " That disclaimer referred to Outlook 2000 in IMO
mode,

*You* didn't read carefully enough, and I really doubt you've ever even
tried it -- and I really don't care for your tone! Why don't you give it
another read? What you're saying is 180 degrees out from that article.
(Rude and mistaken at the same time is a really bad combination.)

which was actually Outlook Express.

That cannot possibly be the case, Outlook 2000 in any mode is not
"actually Outlook Express", it has the Outlook UI, complete with calendar,
task, notes and journal functionality. Also its MAPI interface is not an
extremely limited subset. None of these are true of Outlook Express.
What's more, it lacks the extra functionality that Outlook Express does
have, including the HTML editor and ability to view raw SMTP source.

They are two entirely different products -- where on earth did you get
such a crazy idea? That's the biggest wad of hooey I've seen in some
time.

What you claim

What I've observed...

does not occur in valid installations of Outlook 2003 unless you upgraded
from IMO and have a corrupt profile.

Firstly, from what I can see, there is no IMO in Outlook 2003, I just
installed fresh it on a virtual, and the default installation gives you 5
different email server types (including IMAP and Exchange Server) when you
add an account. Also, I do not see the "Reconfigure Mail" button anywhere
in the options dialog. Further still, a search of MSDN for IMO returns a
number of hits, all of them are either exclusively about OL2000, or
include sentences similar to this: "For Outlook 2000, you can install
Outlook in the Internet Mail Only (IMO) mode."

And the proof in the pudding is that, on a brand new, squeaky-clean
installation, absolutely nothing corrupt about it at all, setting the
UseOutlook registry config item WORKS.

The menu item I mentioned may well tie back to something in OL2000;
clearly, if you read and comprehend the Slipstick article, the
functionality is read-only in OL2000...

So, based on observations, testing multiple different configurations, what
you claim differs from what I've observed.

What are your statements based on?


-Mark

--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]

I have a dilemma: I want to use Outlook for all my mail but todate, I
found been advised that if I try to view my Hotmail account, I have to
"live" with the way the screen appears to "refresh" when you view the
Inbox and Bulk Mail. I view those 2 folders the most and hardly ever
use my default email account. This I find very diffictult on the eye.
I need Outlook because I sync all my Contacts with my mobile phone.

My initial thoughts were : I would use OE to send and receive for the
Hotmail and Default mail account. I would set it so that the email
addresses are added to the WAB and therefore it would update Outlook (I
thought, but you have advised it is not possible to enter contacts in
the WAB and expect Outlook to be updated).

Whoa, hold the phone... a.) that Slipstick article explicitly states
that new contacts entered in OE are also seen in Outlook, and; b.) I
just tried it, and it works here. (Outlook 2003; OE6)

I didn't enable it using RegEdit, though, I just used the Tools ->
Options menu in the OE Address Book window.

So possibly worth another look before you write this avenue off.


-Mark



Then I thought my Contacts would all be in one place and then be able
to sync with my mobile.

I also only want one Contacts list, and I want to use Outlook. What's
the best way of deleteing the WAB file - manaully select all or just
delete the WAB file itself?

Have others had the same problem and is there an easy solution?

Cheers.

You misunderstand. That key allows Outlook to share with the WAB, not
the reverse.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
Hi

I am following instructions using
http://www.slipstick.com/contacts/oeshare.htm and have entered a
DWORD named UseOutlook=1 in the registry. Then added a new Contact
to OE (ver 6) and it did not appear in Outlook (2000) default
contacts folder. The Outlook.exe is not running in Task Manager.

Any ideas as to what went wrong? Thank you.

 

[April]

Hi

Yes, I have double checked and it does work! I had to restart my machine.

Can I ask one further question .... I mentioned that I added Hotmail to
Outlook. The behaviour is strange in that when you click on the Inbox (for
example), I can see the all the expected columns, but it not in the correct
location, and then it takes 3 seconds for Outlook to "refresh" and "move"
the columns to the left of the screen so it is inline and next to the
"Folder List". When viewing my default mail account this does not occur.
The problem is that I use my Hotmail account alot and constantly moving from
the Inbox to the Bulk Mail, and folder to folder, and this is not easy on
the eye.

Is there really no solution or is there is a workaround. I am sure other
people must have the same problem. Please can you let me know your
comments.

Thanks alot in advance.

I have a dilemma: I want to use Outlook for all my mail but todate, I
found been advised that if I try to view my Hotmail account, I have to
"live" with the way the screen appears to "refresh" when you view the
Inbox and Bulk Mail. I view those 2 folders the most and hardly ever use
my default email account. This I find very diffictult on the eye. I need
Outlook because I sync all my Contacts with my mobile phone.

My initial thoughts were : I would use OE to send and receive for the
Hotmail and Default mail account. I would set it so that the email
addresses are added to the WAB and therefore it would update Outlook (I
thought, but you have advised it is not possible to enter contacts in the
WAB and expect Outlook to be updated).

Whoa, hold the phone... a.) that Slipstick article explicitly states that
new contacts entered in OE are also seen in Outlook, and; b.) I just tried
it, and it works here. (Outlook 2003; OE6)

I didn't enable it using RegEdit, though, I just used the Tools -> Options
menu in the OE Address Book window.

So possibly worth another look before you write this avenue off.


-Mark

Then I thought my Contacts would all be in one place and then be able to
sync with my mobile.

I also only want one Contacts list, and I want to use Outlook. What's
the best way of deleteing the WAB file - manaully select all or just
delete the WAB file itself?

Have others had the same problem and is there an easy solution?

Cheers.

You misunderstand. That key allows Outlook to share with the WAB, not
the reverse.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
Hi

I am following instructions using
http://www.slipstick.com/contacts/oeshare.htm and have entered a DWORD
named UseOutlook=1 in the registry. Then added a new Contact to OE
(ver 6) and it did not appear in Outlook (2000) default contacts
folder. The Outlook.exe is not running in Task Manager.

Any ideas as to what went wrong? Thank you.

 

[Diane Poremsky]

there is no solution assuming you have all the latest updates. if you have
all the latest updates and it still does it, there is no fix (and won't be).

Hi

Yes, I have double checked and it does work! I had to restart my machine.

Can I ask one further question .... I mentioned that I added Hotmail to
Outlook. The behaviour is strange in that when you click on the Inbox
(for example), I can see the all the expected columns, but it not in the
correct location, and then it takes 3 seconds for Outlook to "refresh" and
"move" the columns to the left of the screen so it is inline and next to
the "Folder List". When viewing my default mail account this does not
occur. The problem is that I use my Hotmail account alot and constantly
moving from the Inbox to the Bulk Mail, and folder to folder, and this is
not easy on the eye.

Is there really no solution or is there is a workaround. I am sure other
people must have the same problem. Please can you let me know your
comments.

Thanks alot in advance.

I have a dilemma: I want to use Outlook for all my mail but todate, I
found been advised that if I try to view my Hotmail account, I have to
"live" with the way the screen appears to "refresh" when you view the
Inbox and Bulk Mail. I view those 2 folders the most and hardly ever use
my default email account. This I find very diffictult on the eye. I
need Outlook because I sync all my Contacts with my mobile phone.

My initial thoughts were : I would use OE to send and receive for the
Hotmail and Default mail account. I would set it so that the email
addresses are added to the WAB and therefore it would update Outlook (I
thought, but you have advised it is not possible to enter contacts in
the WAB and expect Outlook to be updated).

Whoa, hold the phone... a.) that Slipstick article explicitly states that
new contacts entered in OE are also seen in Outlook, and; b.) I just
tried it, and it works here. (Outlook 2003; OE6)

I didn't enable it using RegEdit, though, I just used the Tools ->
Options menu in the OE Address Book window.

So possibly worth another look before you write this avenue off.


-Mark

Then I thought my Contacts would all be in one place and then be able to
sync with my mobile.

I also only want one Contacts list, and I want to use Outlook. What's
the best way of deleteing the WAB file - manaully select all or just
delete the WAB file itself?

Have others had the same problem and is there an easy solution?

Cheers.

You misunderstand. That key allows Outlook to share with the WAB, not
the reverse.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
Hi

I am following instructions using
http://www.slipstick.com/contacts/oeshare.htm and have entered a DWORD
named UseOutlook=1 in the registry. Then added a new Contact to OE
(ver 6) and it did not appear in Outlook (2000) default contacts
folder. The Outlook.exe is not running in Task Manager.

Any ideas as to what went wrong? Thank you.

 

[April]

This has worked for me.

I am now able to share.

Thank you

there is no solution assuming you have all the latest updates. if you have
all the latest updates and it still does it, there is no fix (and won't
be).

Hi

Yes, I have double checked and it does work! I had to restart my
machine.

Can I ask one further question .... I mentioned that I added Hotmail to
Outlook. The behaviour is strange in that when you click on the Inbox
(for example), I can see the all the expected columns, but it not in the
correct location, and then it takes 3 seconds for Outlook to "refresh"
and "move" the columns to the left of the screen so it is inline and next
to the "Folder List". When viewing my default mail account this does not
occur. The problem is that I use my Hotmail account alot and constantly
moving from the Inbox to the Bulk Mail, and folder to folder, and this is
not easy on the eye.

Is there really no solution or is there is a workaround. I am sure
other people must have the same problem. Please can you let me know your
comments.

Thanks alot in advance.

I have a dilemma: I want to use Outlook for all my mail but todate, I
found been advised that if I try to view my Hotmail account, I have to
"live" with the way the screen appears to "refresh" when you view the
Inbox and Bulk Mail. I view those 2 folders the most and hardly ever
use my default email account. This I find very diffictult on the eye.
I need Outlook because I sync all my Contacts with my mobile phone.

My initial thoughts were : I would use OE to send and receive for the
Hotmail and Default mail account. I would set it so that the email
addresses are added to the WAB and therefore it would update Outlook (I
thought, but you have advised it is not possible to enter contacts in
the WAB and expect Outlook to be updated).

Whoa, hold the phone... a.) that Slipstick article explicitly states
that new contacts entered in OE are also seen in Outlook, and; b.) I
just tried it, and it works here. (Outlook 2003; OE6)

I didn't enable it using RegEdit, though, I just used the Tools ->
Options menu in the OE Address Book window.

So possibly worth another look before you write this avenue off.


-Mark



Then I thought my Contacts would all be in one place and then be able
to sync with my mobile.

I also only want one Contacts list, and I want to use Outlook. What's
the best way of deleteing the WAB file - manaully select all or just
delete the WAB file itself?

Have others had the same problem and is there an easy solution?

Cheers.

You misunderstand. That key allows Outlook to share with the WAB, not
the reverse.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
Hi

I am following instructions using
http://www.slipstick.com/contacts/oeshare.htm and have entered a
DWORD named UseOutlook=1 in the registry. Then added a new Contact
to OE (ver 6) and it did not appear in Outlook (2000) default
contacts folder. The Outlook.exe is not running in Task Manager.

Any ideas as to what went wrong? Thank you.

 

[Mark J. McGinty]

Sorry, but it is well established that Outlook 2000 in IMO actually used
Outlook Express address book engine and

If that was the case, why would WAB be read-only from Outlook? That makes
no sense. And if you're trying to say it did not store contacts in the PST
store, you're wrong -- yet again.

Simple MAPI for all its transports,

All one of them? Even if it's true, so what?

not Outlook's Extended MAPI transports. That is the whole reason it had to
share the WAB and required OE to be installed.
Sharing the WAB by using the Reg hack will have mixed results at best.
Accordingly, it is not recommended that you try to create Outlook Contacts
via the OE interface. It may work in some situations but is not a reliable
way to create Contacts as the OP discovered.

The OP is using OL2000, which is documented to be read-only! First you try
to say that it'll only work if *not* in IMO, then I point out the flaw in
your statements, and now you have another song to sing? You obviously know
painfully little about this, but you should at least get your story
straight.

Please, in the future, make some effort to avoid spreading misinformation --
would that be too much to ask?


-Mark

--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]

False. You didn't read carefully enough. You ignored the disclaimer: "In
certain configurations. " That disclaimer referred to Outlook 2000 in
IMO mode,

*You* didn't read carefully enough, and I really doubt you've ever even
tried it -- and I really don't care for your tone! Why don't you give it
another read? What you're saying is 180 degrees out from that article.
(Rude and mistaken at the same time is a really bad combination.)

which was actually Outlook Express.

That cannot possibly be the case, Outlook 2000 in any mode is not
"actually Outlook Express", it has the Outlook UI, complete with
calendar,
task, notes and journal functionality. Also its MAPI interface is not an
extremely limited subset. None of these are true of Outlook Express.
What's more, it lacks the extra functionality that Outlook Express does
have, including the HTML editor and ability to view raw SMTP source.

They are two entirely different products -- where on earth did you get
such a crazy idea? That's the biggest wad of hooey I've seen in some
time.

What you claim

What I've observed...

does not occur in valid installations of Outlook 2003 unless you
upgraded from IMO and have a corrupt profile.

Firstly, from what I can see, there is no IMO in Outlook 2003, I just
installed fresh it on a virtual, and the default installation gives you 5
different email server types (including IMAP and Exchange Server) when
you add an account. Also, I do not see the "Reconfigure Mail" button
anywhere in the options dialog. Further still, a search of MSDN for IMO
returns a number of hits, all of them are either exclusively about
OL2000, or include sentences similar to this: "For Outlook 2000, you can
install Outlook in the Internet Mail Only (IMO) mode."

And the proof in the pudding is that, on a brand new, squeaky-clean
installation, absolutely nothing corrupt about it at all, setting the
UseOutlook registry config item WORKS.

The menu item I mentioned may well tie back to something in OL2000;
clearly, if you read and comprehend the Slipstick article, the
functionality is read-only in OL2000...

So, based on observations, testing multiple different configurations,
what you claim differs from what I've observed.

What are your statements based on?


-Mark

--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]

I have a dilemma: I want to use Outlook for all my mail but todate, I
found been advised that if I try to view my Hotmail account, I have to
"live" with the way the screen appears to "refresh" when you view the
Inbox and Bulk Mail. I view those 2 folders the most and hardly ever
use my default email account. This I find very diffictult on the eye.
I need Outlook because I sync all my Contacts with my mobile phone.

My initial thoughts were : I would use OE to send and receive for the
Hotmail and Default mail account. I would set it so that the email
addresses are added to the WAB and therefore it would update Outlook
(I thought, but you have advised it is not possible to enter contacts
in the WAB and expect Outlook to be updated).

Whoa, hold the phone... a.) that Slipstick article explicitly states
that new contacts entered in OE are also seen in Outlook, and; b.) I
just tried it, and it works here. (Outlook 2003; OE6)

I didn't enable it using RegEdit, though, I just used the Tools ->
Options menu in the OE Address Book window.

So possibly worth another look before you write this avenue off.


-Mark



Then I thought my Contacts would all be in one place and then be able
to sync with my mobile.

I also only want one Contacts list, and I want to use Outlook. What's
the best way of deleteing the WAB file - manaully select all or just
delete the WAB file itself?

Have others had the same problem and is there an easy solution?

Cheers.

You misunderstand. That key allows Outlook to share with the WAB, not
the reverse.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
Hi

I am following instructions using
http://www.slipstick.com/contacts/oeshare.htm and have entered a
DWORD named UseOutlook=1 in the registry. Then added a new Contact
to OE (ver 6) and it did not appear in Outlook (2000) default
contacts folder. The Outlook.exe is not running in Task Manager.

Any ideas as to what went wrong? Thank you.

 

[Mark J. McGinty]

This has worked for me.

I am now able to share.

Thank you

That's very cool... sorry if your problem seemed to get lost in the heat of
other debates on this thread.


-Mark

there is no solution assuming you have all the latest updates. if you
have all the latest updates and it still does it, there is no fix (and
won't be).

Hi

Yes, I have double checked and it does work! I had to restart my
machine.

Can I ask one further question .... I mentioned that I added Hotmail to
Outlook. The behaviour is strange in that when you click on the Inbox
(for example), I can see the all the expected columns, but it not in the
correct location, and then it takes 3 seconds for Outlook to "refresh"
and "move" the columns to the left of the screen so it is inline and
next to the "Folder List". When viewing my default mail account this
does not occur. The problem is that I use my Hotmail account alot and
constantly moving from the Inbox to the Bulk Mail, and folder to folder,
and this is not easy on the eye.

Is there really no solution or is there is a workaround. I am sure
other people must have the same problem. Please can you let me know
your comments.

Thanks alot in advance.


I have a dilemma: I want to use Outlook for all my mail but todate, I
found been advised that if I try to view my Hotmail account, I have to
"live" with the way the screen appears to "refresh" when you view the
Inbox and Bulk Mail. I view those 2 folders the most and hardly ever
use my default email account. This I find very diffictult on the eye.
I need Outlook because I sync all my Contacts with my mobile phone.

My initial thoughts were : I would use OE to send and receive for the
Hotmail and Default mail account. I would set it so that the email
addresses are added to the WAB and therefore it would update Outlook
(I thought, but you have advised it is not possible to enter contacts
in the WAB and expect Outlook to be updated).

Whoa, hold the phone... a.) that Slipstick article explicitly states
that new contacts entered in OE are also seen in Outlook, and; b.) I
just tried it, and it works here. (Outlook 2003; OE6)

I didn't enable it using RegEdit, though, I just used the Tools ->
Options menu in the OE Address Book window.

So possibly worth another look before you write this avenue off.


-Mark



Then I thought my Contacts would all be in one place and then be able
to sync with my mobile.

I also only want one Contacts list, and I want to use Outlook. What's
the best way of deleteing the WAB file - manaully select all or just
delete the WAB file itself?

Have others had the same problem and is there an easy solution?

Cheers.

You misunderstand. That key allows Outlook to share with the WAB, not
the reverse.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
Hi

I am following instructions using
http://www.slipstick.com/contacts/oeshare.htm and have entered a
DWORD named UseOutlook=1 in the registry. Then added a new Contact
to OE (ver 6) and it did not appear in Outlook (2000) default
contacts folder. The Outlook.exe is not running in Task Manager.

Any ideas as to what went wrong? Thank you.

 

[Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]]

That was the request I was making of you. I said none of the things you
claim. The WAB file was never used, only the WAB engine. Contacts were
always stored in the PST file. But creating Contact Records in Outlook's PST
using the OE interface proved to be unreliable on many occasions and often
resulted in users losing data. Accordingly, we stopped recommending it years
ago.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]

Sorry, but it is well established that Outlook 2000 in IMO actually used
Outlook Express address book engine and

If that was the case, why would WAB be read-only from Outlook? That makes
no sense. And if you're trying to say it did not store contacts in the
PST store, you're wrong -- yet again.

Simple MAPI for all its transports,

All one of them? Even if it's true, so what?

not Outlook's Extended MAPI transports. That is the whole reason it had
to share the WAB and required OE to be installed.
Sharing the WAB by using the Reg hack will have mixed results at best.
Accordingly, it is not recommended that you try to create Outlook
Contacts via the OE interface. It may work in some situations but is not
a reliable way to create Contacts as the OP discovered.

The OP is using OL2000, which is documented to be read-only! First you
try to say that it'll only work if *not* in IMO, then I point out the flaw
in your statements, and now you have another song to sing? You obviously
know painfully little about this, but you should at least get your story
straight.

Please, in the future, make some effort to avoid spreading
misinformation -- would that be too much to ask?


-Mark

--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]

False. You didn't read carefully enough. You ignored the disclaimer:
"In certain configurations. " That disclaimer referred to Outlook 2000
in IMO mode,

*You* didn't read carefully enough, and I really doubt you've ever even
tried it -- and I really don't care for your tone! Why don't you give
it another read? What you're saying is 180 degrees out from that
article. (Rude and mistaken at the same time is a really bad
combination.)

which was actually Outlook Express.

That cannot possibly be the case, Outlook 2000 in any mode is not
"actually Outlook Express", it has the Outlook UI, complete with
calendar,
task, notes and journal functionality. Also its MAPI interface is not
an
extremely limited subset. None of these are true of Outlook Express.
What's more, it lacks the extra functionality that Outlook Express does
have, including the HTML editor and ability to view raw SMTP source.

They are two entirely different products -- where on earth did you get
such a crazy idea? That's the biggest wad of hooey I've seen in some
time.


What you claim

What I've observed...


does not occur in valid installations of Outlook 2003 unless you
upgraded from IMO and have a corrupt profile.

Firstly, from what I can see, there is no IMO in Outlook 2003, I just
installed fresh it on a virtual, and the default installation gives you
5 different email server types (including IMAP and Exchange Server) when
you add an account. Also, I do not see the "Reconfigure Mail" button
anywhere in the options dialog. Further still, a search of MSDN for IMO
returns a number of hits, all of them are either exclusively about
OL2000, or include sentences similar to this: "For Outlook 2000, you can
install Outlook in the Internet Mail Only (IMO) mode."

And the proof in the pudding is that, on a brand new, squeaky-clean
installation, absolutely nothing corrupt about it at all, setting the
UseOutlook registry config item WORKS.

The menu item I mentioned may well tie back to something in OL2000;
clearly, if you read and comprehend the Slipstick article, the
functionality is read-only in OL2000...

So, based on observations, testing multiple different configurations,
what you claim differs from what I've observed.

What are your statements based on?


-Mark



--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]

I have a dilemma: I want to use Outlook for all my mail but todate, I
found been advised that if I try to view my Hotmail account, I have to
"live" with the way the screen appears to "refresh" when you view the
Inbox and Bulk Mail. I view those 2 folders the most and hardly ever
use my default email account. This I find very diffictult on the eye.
I need Outlook because I sync all my Contacts with my mobile phone.

My initial thoughts were : I would use OE to send and receive for the
Hotmail and Default mail account. I would set it so that the email
addresses are added to the WAB and therefore it would update Outlook
(I thought, but you have advised it is not possible to enter contacts
in the WAB and expect Outlook to be updated).

Whoa, hold the phone... a.) that Slipstick article explicitly states
that new contacts entered in OE are also seen in Outlook, and; b.) I
just tried it, and it works here. (Outlook 2003; OE6)

I didn't enable it using RegEdit, though, I just used the Tools ->
Options menu in the OE Address Book window.

So possibly worth another look before you write this avenue off.


-Mark



Then I thought my Contacts would all be in one place and then be able
to sync with my mobile.

I also only want one Contacts list, and I want to use Outlook.
What's the best way of deleteing the WAB file - manaully select all
or just delete the WAB file itself?

Have others had the same problem and is there an easy solution?

Cheers.

You misunderstand. That key allows Outlook to share with the WAB,
not the reverse.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
Hi

I am following instructions using
http://www.slipstick.com/contacts/oeshare.htm and have entered a
DWORD named UseOutlook=1 in the registry. Then added a new Contact
to OE (ver 6) and it did not appear in Outlook (2000) default
contacts folder. The Outlook.exe is not running in Task Manager.

Any ideas as to what went wrong? Thank you.

 

[April]

Yes I'm extremely pleased. Not to worry about the debate thread )

ps. I added Hotmail to Outlook but I am experiencing a screen "refresh"
issue where the Hotmail account is displayed in Outlook, then after a couple
of seconds, it "moves/refreshes" to the left side of the window pane. Do
you know what I mean and is there a solution?

This has worked for me.

I am now able to share.

Thank you

That's very cool... sorry if your problem seemed to get lost in the heat
of other debates on this thread.


-Mark

there is no solution assuming you have all the latest updates. if you
have all the latest updates and it still does it, there is no fix (and
won't be).










Hi

Yes, I have double checked and it does work! I had to restart my
machine.

Can I ask one further question .... I mentioned that I added Hotmail to
Outlook. The behaviour is strange in that when you click on the Inbox
(for example), I can see the all the expected columns, but it not in
the correct location, and then it takes 3 seconds for Outlook to
"refresh" and "move" the columns to the left of the screen so it is
inline and next to the "Folder List". When viewing my default mail
account this does not occur. The problem is that I use my Hotmail
account alot and constantly moving from the Inbox to the Bulk Mail, and
folder to folder, and this is not easy on the eye.

Is there really no solution or is there is a workaround. I am sure
other people must have the same problem. Please can you let me know
your comments.

Thanks alot in advance.


I have a dilemma: I want to use Outlook for all my mail but todate, I
found been advised that if I try to view my Hotmail account, I have to
"live" with the way the screen appears to "refresh" when you view the
Inbox and Bulk Mail. I view those 2 folders the most and hardly ever
use my default email account. This I find very diffictult on the eye.
I need Outlook because I sync all my Contacts with my mobile phone.

My initial thoughts were : I would use OE to send and receive for the
Hotmail and Default mail account. I would set it so that the email
addresses are added to the WAB and therefore it would update Outlook
(I thought, but you have advised it is not possible to enter contacts
in the WAB and expect Outlook to be updated).

Whoa, hold the phone... a.) that Slipstick article explicitly states
that new contacts entered in OE are also seen in Outlook, and; b.) I
just tried it, and it works here. (Outlook 2003; OE6)

I didn't enable it using RegEdit, though, I just used the Tools ->
Options menu in the OE Address Book window.

So possibly worth another look before you write this avenue off.


-Mark



Then I thought my Contacts would all be in one place and then be able
to sync with my mobile.

I also only want one Contacts list, and I want to use Outlook.
What's the best way of deleteing the WAB file - manaully select all
or just delete the WAB file itself?

Have others had the same problem and is there an easy solution?

Cheers.

You misunderstand. That key allows Outlook to share with the WAB,
not the reverse.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
Hi

I am following instructions using
http://www.slipstick.com/contacts/oeshare.htm and have entered a
DWORD named UseOutlook=1 in the registry. Then added a new Contact
to OE (ver 6) and it did not appear in Outlook (2000) default
contacts folder. The Outlook.exe is not running in Task Manager.

Any ideas as to what went wrong? Thank you.

 

[Mark J. McGinty]

Yes I'm extremely pleased. Not to worry about the debate thread )

ps. I added Hotmail to Outlook but I am experiencing a screen "refresh"
issue where the Hotmail account is displayed in Outlook, then after a
couple of seconds, it "moves/refreshes" to the left side of the window
pane. Do you know what I mean and is there a solution?

I think I know what you mean, but I'm not sure I've ever seen Outlook do
that... How often is it set to check Hotmail for new mail? I wouldn't think
it would refresh any more frequently than that.

-Mark

This has worked for me.

I am now able to share.

Thank you

That's very cool... sorry if your problem seemed to get lost in the heat
of other debates on this thread.


-Mark

there is no solution assuming you have all the latest updates. if you
have all the latest updates and it still does it, there is no fix (and
won't be).










Hi

Yes, I have double checked and it does work! I had to restart my
machine.

Can I ask one further question .... I mentioned that I added Hotmail
to Outlook. The behaviour is strange in that when you click on the
Inbox (for example), I can see the all the expected columns, but it
not in the correct location, and then it takes 3 seconds for Outlook
to "refresh" and "move" the columns to the left of the screen so it is
inline and next to the "Folder List". When viewing my default mail
account this does not occur. The problem is that I use my Hotmail
account alot and constantly moving from the Inbox to the Bulk Mail,
and folder to folder, and this is not easy on the eye.

Is there really no solution or is there is a workaround. I am sure
other people must have the same problem. Please can you let me know
your comments.

Thanks alot in advance.


I have a dilemma: I want to use Outlook for all my mail but todate,
I found been advised that if I try to view my Hotmail account, I have
to "live" with the way the screen appears to "refresh" when you view
the Inbox and Bulk Mail. I view those 2 folders the most and hardly
ever use my default email account. This I find very diffictult on
the eye. I need Outlook because I sync all my Contacts with my mobile
phone.

My initial thoughts were : I would use OE to send and receive for
the Hotmail and Default mail account. I would set it so that the
email addresses are added to the WAB and therefore it would update
Outlook (I thought, but you have advised it is not possible to enter
contacts in the WAB and expect Outlook to be updated).

Whoa, hold the phone... a.) that Slipstick article explicitly states
that new contacts entered in OE are also seen in Outlook, and; b.) I
just tried it, and it works here. (Outlook 2003; OE6)

I didn't enable it using RegEdit, though, I just used the Tools ->
Options menu in the OE Address Book window.

So possibly worth another look before you write this avenue off.


-Mark



Then I thought my Contacts would all be in one place and then be
able to sync with my mobile.

I also only want one Contacts list, and I want to use Outlook.
What's the best way of deleteing the WAB file - manaully select all
or just delete the WAB file itself?

Have others had the same problem and is there an easy solution?

Cheers.

You misunderstand. That key allows Outlook to share with the WAB,
not the reverse.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
Hi

I am following instructions using
http://www.slipstick.com/contacts/oeshare.htm and have entered a
DWORD named UseOutlook=1 in the registry. Then added a new
Contact to OE (ver 6) and it did not appear in Outlook (2000)
default contacts folder. The Outlook.exe is not running in Task
Manager.

Any ideas as to what went wrong? Thank you.

 

[April]

Where do I check how often it checks for mail?

What I mean is if I am viewing my default mail, then manually click on the
"Hotmail Inbox " folder or "Hotmail Bulk Mail" folder, that is when it
refreshes.

Yes I'm extremely pleased. Not to worry about the debate thread )

ps. I added Hotmail to Outlook but I am experiencing a screen "refresh"
issue where the Hotmail account is displayed in Outlook, then after a
couple of seconds, it "moves/refreshes" to the left side of the window
pane. Do you know what I mean and is there a solution?

I think I know what you mean, but I'm not sure I've ever seen Outlook do
that... How often is it set to check Hotmail for new mail? I wouldn't
think it would refresh any more frequently than that.

-Mark

This has worked for me.

I am now able to share.

Thank you

That's very cool... sorry if your problem seemed to get lost in the heat
of other debates on this thread.


-Mark



there is no solution assuming you have all the latest updates. if you
have all the latest updates and it still does it, there is no fix (and
won't be).










Hi

Yes, I have double checked and it does work! I had to restart my
machine.

Can I ask one further question .... I mentioned that I added Hotmail
to Outlook. The behaviour is strange in that when you click on the
Inbox (for example), I can see the all the expected columns, but it
not in the correct location, and then it takes 3 seconds for Outlook
to "refresh" and "move" the columns to the left of the screen so it
is inline and next to the "Folder List". When viewing my default
mail account this does not occur. The problem is that I use my
Hotmail account alot and constantly moving from the Inbox to the Bulk
Mail, and folder to folder, and this is not easy on the eye.

Is there really no solution or is there is a workaround. I am sure
other people must have the same problem. Please can you let me know
your comments.

Thanks alot in advance.


I have a dilemma: I want to use Outlook for all my mail but todate,
I found been advised that if I try to view my Hotmail account, I
have to "live" with the way the screen appears to "refresh" when you
view the Inbox and Bulk Mail. I view those 2 folders the most and
hardly ever use my default email account. This I find very
diffictult on the eye. I need Outlook because I sync all my Contacts
with my mobile phone.

My initial thoughts were : I would use OE to send and receive for
the Hotmail and Default mail account. I would set it so that the
email addresses are added to the WAB and therefore it would update
Outlook (I thought, but you have advised it is not possible to
enter contacts in the WAB and expect Outlook to be updated).

Whoa, hold the phone... a.) that Slipstick article explicitly states
that new contacts entered in OE are also seen in Outlook, and; b.) I
just tried it, and it works here. (Outlook 2003; OE6)

I didn't enable it using RegEdit, though, I just used the Tools ->
Options menu in the OE Address Book window.

So possibly worth another look before you write this avenue off.


-Mark



Then I thought my Contacts would all be in one place and then be
able to sync with my mobile.

I also only want one Contacts list, and I want to use Outlook.
What's the best way of deleteing the WAB file - manaully select all
or just delete the WAB file itself?

Have others had the same problem and is there an easy solution?

Cheers.

You misunderstand. That key allows Outlook to share with the WAB,
not the reverse.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
Hi

I am following instructions using
http://www.slipstick.com/contacts/oeshare.htm and have entered a
DWORD named UseOutlook=1 in the registry. Then added a new
Contact to OE (ver 6) and it did not appear in Outlook (2000)
default contacts folder. The Outlook.exe is not running in Task
Manager.

Any ideas as to what went wrong? Thank you.

 

[Mark J. McGinty]

Oh... I'm afraid I've never used Outlook for Hotmail, I was somewhat
assuming you had POP3 access to Hotmail, but from your description that
doesn't seem to be the case. Sorry, no help for this one here.

-Mark

Where do I check how often it checks for mail?

What I mean is if I am viewing my default mail, then manually click on the
"Hotmail Inbox " folder or "Hotmail Bulk Mail" folder, that is when it
refreshes.

Yes I'm extremely pleased. Not to worry about the debate thread )

ps. I added Hotmail to Outlook but I am experiencing a screen "refresh"
issue where the Hotmail account is displayed in Outlook, then after a
couple of seconds, it "moves/refreshes" to the left side of the window
pane. Do you know what I mean and is there a solution?

I think I know what you mean, but I'm not sure I've ever seen Outlook do
that... How often is it set to check Hotmail for new mail? I wouldn't
think it would refresh any more frequently than that.

-Mark

This has worked for me.

I am now able to share.

Thank you

That's very cool... sorry if your problem seemed to get lost in the
heat of other debates on this thread.


-Mark



there is no solution assuming you have all the latest updates. if you
have all the latest updates and it still does it, there is no fix
(and won't be).










Hi

Yes, I have double checked and it does work! I had to restart my
machine.

Can I ask one further question .... I mentioned that I added Hotmail
to Outlook. The behaviour is strange in that when you click on the
Inbox (for example), I can see the all the expected columns, but it
not in the correct location, and then it takes 3 seconds for Outlook
to "refresh" and "move" the columns to the left of the screen so it
is inline and next to the "Folder List". When viewing my default
mail account this does not occur. The problem is that I use my
Hotmail account alot and constantly moving from the Inbox to the
Bulk Mail, and folder to folder, and this is not easy on the eye.

Is there really no solution or is there is a workaround. I am sure
other people must have the same problem. Please can you let me know
your comments.

Thanks alot in advance.


I have a dilemma: I want to use Outlook for all my mail but
todate, I found been advised that if I try to view my Hotmail
account, I have to "live" with the way the screen appears to
"refresh" when you view the Inbox and Bulk Mail. I view those 2
folders the most and hardly ever use my default email account.
This I find very diffictult on the eye. I need Outlook because I
sync all my Contacts with my mobile phone.

My initial thoughts were : I would use OE to send and receive for
the Hotmail and Default mail account. I would set it so that the
email addresses are added to the WAB and therefore it would update
Outlook (I thought, but you have advised it is not possible to
enter contacts in the WAB and expect Outlook to be updated).

Whoa, hold the phone... a.) that Slipstick article explicitly
states that new contacts entered in OE are also seen in Outlook,
and; b.) I just tried it, and it works here. (Outlook 2003; OE6)

I didn't enable it using RegEdit, though, I just used the Tools ->
Options menu in the OE Address Book window.

So possibly worth another look before you write this avenue off.


-Mark



Then I thought my Contacts would all be in one place and then be
able to sync with my mobile.

I also only want one Contacts list, and I want to use Outlook.
What's the best way of deleteing the WAB file - manaully select
all or just delete the WAB file itself?

Have others had the same problem and is there an easy solution?

Cheers.

message You misunderstand. That key allows Outlook to share with the WAB,
not the reverse.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
Hi

I am following instructions using
http://www.slipstick.com/contacts/oeshare.htm and have entered a
DWORD named UseOutlook=1 in the registry. Then added a new
Contact to OE (ver 6) and it did not appear in Outlook (2000)
default contacts folder. The Outlook.exe is not running in Task
Manager.

Any ideas as to what went wrong? Thank you.