Odd Issues after upgrading CPU

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Andy

Ok, I have a very long and dull story about how this all went down,
so I'll spare the details. I have an Acer 5100 Laptop that originally
came with a AMD MK-36 CPU (I think that's the exact model...single
Core....2.0 GHZ)

Someone I knew trashed their laptop, also an Acer 5100 with a Dual
Core AMD CPU that fit the same socket. Here are the problems I have.

I am running Windows XP Pro, have 2 GB of RAM, and a SATA hard drive.

1. Neither the BIOS nor Windows, nor CPUID or any utility recognizes
the processor for what it is. It calls it an "Unknown AMD CPU". I
tried upgrading my BIOS to the latest....V 3.10 but still have the
problem.

2. When I turn on the computer, if I try booting to Windows, I get a
black or scrambled screen. If I boot first into Safe Mode and then
reboot the computer it goes into Windows.

3. Windows will lock up on me periodically. These lockups MAY be
associated with the following event log errors.

The Security System could not establish a secured connection with the
server DNS/dbru.br.ns.els-gms.att.net. No authentication protocol was
available.

The Security System detected an attempted downgrade attack for server
DNS/dbru.br.ns.els-gms.att.net. The failure code from authentication
protocol Kerberos was "There are currently no logon servers available
to service the logon request.
(0xc000005e)".

The application-specific permission settings do not grant Local Launch
permission for the COM Server application with CLSID
{DCBCA92E-7DBE-4EDA-8B7B-3AAEA4DD412B}
to the user NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM SID (S-1-5-18). This security
permission can be modified using the Component Services administrative
tool.

4. I have a problem using my External USB Hard Drive. I get the
"Delayed Write Failure" and "USB Device Unknown". It may work for a
minute or two but always messes up. Same with an External USB Key
Drive.

I have played with a myriad of different drivers, but none seem to fix
the issues at hand. I had a copy of a Beta XP Service Pack 3 that I
tried to install but that did not change a thing.

5. Windows update has a upgrade to my Sata controller. The Update is
Silicon Image - Other Hardware - ATI 4379 Serial ATA Controller. It
fails to install.

So my questions are probably first....

1. Does anyone have a working Dual Core Acer 5100 laptop? Is your
CPU reported correctly?

2. Is it not recommended to chance CPU's on a laptop? Is there
something I must do to make it more stable?


I assume all of these problems are somehow linked together. I searched
the web independantly for all of them and could not really find any
applicable solutions.

Thanks in advance.
 
Andy said:
Ok, I have a very long and dull story about how this all went down,
so I'll spare the details. I have an Acer 5100 Laptop that originally
came with a AMD MK-36 CPU (I think that's the exact model...single
Core....2.0 GHZ)

Someone I knew trashed their laptop, also an Acer 5100 with a Dual
Core AMD CPU that fit the same socket. Here are the problems I have.

I am running Windows XP Pro, have 2 GB of RAM, and a SATA hard drive.

1. Neither the BIOS nor Windows, nor CPUID or any utility recognizes
the processor for what it is. It calls it an "Unknown AMD CPU". I
tried upgrading my BIOS to the latest....V 3.10 but still have the
problem.

2. When I turn on the computer, if I try booting to Windows, I get a
black or scrambled screen. If I boot first into Safe Mode and then
reboot the computer it goes into Windows.

3. Windows will lock up on me periodically. These lockups MAY be
associated with the following event log errors.

The Security System could not establish a secured connection with the
server DNS/dbru.br.ns.els-gms.att.net. No authentication protocol was
available.

The Security System detected an attempted downgrade attack for server
DNS/dbru.br.ns.els-gms.att.net. The failure code from authentication
protocol Kerberos was "There are currently no logon servers available
to service the logon request.
(0xc000005e)".

The application-specific permission settings do not grant Local Launch
permission for the COM Server application with CLSID
{DCBCA92E-7DBE-4EDA-8B7B-3AAEA4DD412B}
to the user NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM SID (S-1-5-18). This security
permission can be modified using the Component Services administrative
tool.

4. I have a problem using my External USB Hard Drive. I get the
"Delayed Write Failure" and "USB Device Unknown". It may work for a
minute or two but always messes up. Same with an External USB Key
Drive.

I have played with a myriad of different drivers, but none seem to fix
the issues at hand. I had a copy of a Beta XP Service Pack 3 that I
tried to install but that did not change a thing.

5. Windows update has a upgrade to my Sata controller. The Update is
Silicon Image - Other Hardware - ATI 4379 Serial ATA Controller. It
fails to install.

So my questions are probably first....

1. Does anyone have a working Dual Core Acer 5100 laptop? Is your
CPU reported correctly?

2. Is it not recommended to chance CPU's on a laptop? Is there
something I must do to make it more stable?


I assume all of these problems are somehow linked together. I searched
the web independantly for all of them and could not really find any
applicable solutions.

Thanks in advance.
Click to expand...
what happens when u put the old cpu back in and what was wrong with the old
cpu second are the motherboards the same.
 
Andy said:
Ok, I have a very long and dull story about how this all went down,
so I'll spare the details. I have an Acer 5100 Laptop that originally
came with a AMD MK-36 CPU (I think that's the exact model...single
Core....2.0 GHZ)

Someone I knew trashed their laptop, also an Acer 5100 with a Dual
Core AMD CPU that fit the same socket. Here are the problems I have.

I am running Windows XP Pro, have 2 GB of RAM, and a SATA hard drive.

1. Neither the BIOS nor Windows, nor CPUID or any utility recognizes
the processor for what it is. It calls it an "Unknown AMD CPU". I
tried upgrading my BIOS to the latest....V 3.10 but still have the
problem.

2. When I turn on the computer, if I try booting to Windows, I get a
black or scrambled screen. If I boot first into Safe Mode and then
reboot the computer it goes into Windows.

3. Windows will lock up on me periodically. These lockups MAY be
associated with the following event log errors.

The Security System could not establish a secured connection with the
server DNS/dbru.br.ns.els-gms.att.net. No authentication protocol was
available.

The Security System detected an attempted downgrade attack for server
DNS/dbru.br.ns.els-gms.att.net. The failure code from authentication
protocol Kerberos was "There are currently no logon servers available
to service the logon request.
(0xc000005e)".

The application-specific permission settings do not grant Local Launch
permission for the COM Server application with CLSID
{DCBCA92E-7DBE-4EDA-8B7B-3AAEA4DD412B}
to the user NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM SID (S-1-5-18). This security
permission can be modified using the Component Services administrative
tool.

4. I have a problem using my External USB Hard Drive. I get the
"Delayed Write Failure" and "USB Device Unknown". It may work for a
minute or two but always messes up. Same with an External USB Key
Drive.

I have played with a myriad of different drivers, but none seem to fix
the issues at hand. I had a copy of a Beta XP Service Pack 3 that I
tried to install but that did not change a thing.

5. Windows update has a upgrade to my Sata controller. The Update is
Silicon Image - Other Hardware - ATI 4379 Serial ATA Controller. It
fails to install.

So my questions are probably first....

1. Does anyone have a working Dual Core Acer 5100 laptop? Is your
CPU reported correctly?

2. Is it not recommended to chance CPU's on a laptop? Is there
something I must do to make it more stable?


I assume all of these problems are somehow linked together. I searched
the web independantly for all of them and could not really find any
applicable solutions.

Thanks in advance.
Click to expand...

.... symptoms reminiscent of a (badly) overclocked cpu.


NT
 
Andy said:
Ok, I have a very long and dull story about how this all went down,
so I'll spare the details. I have an Acer 5100 Laptop that originally
came with a AMD MK-36 CPU (I think that's the exact model...single
Core....2.0 GHZ)

Someone I knew trashed their laptop, also an Acer 5100 with a Dual
Core AMD CPU that fit the same socket. Here are the problems I have.
Click to expand...

Without even reading any further - your problems are not hardware - you have
to tell windows it has a dual core setup rather than the previous single
core installation. Easiest is to re-install windows. You could try a repair
install, but basicaly the dual core installation of XP uses a different HAL
to the single core install - check Google for HAL info.

If you go to your device manager and check the entry under 'Computer'. A
dual code setup has ACPI Multiprocessor PC and a single core setup has ACPI
'something else along the lines of single processor' PC.
 
darklight said:
Andy wrote:
.... snip ...


what happens when u put the old cpu back in and what was wrong
with the old cpu second are the motherboards the same.
Click to expand...

Why are you blaming u? He has never been involved in this thread.
The whole sentence makes little sense. Writing proper English with
correct punctuation can enhance clarity.
 
what happens when u put the old cpu back in and what was wrong
Why are you blaming u? He has never been involved in this thread.
The whole sentence makes little sense. Writing proper English with
correct punctuation can enhance clarity.
Click to expand...

And using modern txt-talk can save time and lose none of the meaning. I
actually agree with you, but hate pedantic annoying posts! This is another
annoying pedantic post, so please don't reply or I will be forced to retort!
 
And using modern txt-talk can save time and lose none of the meaning. I
actually agree with you, but hate pedantic annoying posts! This is another
annoying pedantic post, so please don't reply or I will be forced to retort!
Click to expand...

I've honestly been too lazy to put the old CPU back in. I should
consider doing that. That is a logical step.

About the HAL's......instead of reinstalling Windows and all that Jazz
would running Sysprep reset the HAL?
 
Andy said:
I've honestly been too lazy to put the old CPU back in. I should
consider doing that. That is a logical step.

About the HAL's......instead of reinstalling Windows and all that Jazz
would running Sysprep reset the HAL?
Click to expand...

I have never used Sysprep, but you might not need to do blank the drive and
do a full windows install - choose the repair option when you boot from your
WindowsXP disk and all your apps and most of your settings will remain.
 
GT said:
Without even reading any further - your problems are not hardware -
you have to tell windows it has a dual core setup rather than the
previous single core installation. Easiest is to re-install windows.
You could try a repair install, but basicaly the dual core
installation of XP uses a different HAL to the single core install -
check Google for HAL info.
If you go to your device manager and check the entry under
'Computer'. A dual code setup has ACPI Multiprocessor PC and a single
core setup has ACPI 'something else along the lines of single
processor' PC.
Click to expand...

Ya know, I was told that I'd have to do this when I upgraded my system from
a Core 2 Solo Celeron 420 to a Core 2 Duo E4500 yet Windows started as
normal and when I right-clicked 'My Computer' it correctly identified the
CPU as having two cores. Works just fine. (Win XP Pro, SP2).
 
~misfit~ said:
Ya know, I was told that I'd have to do this when I upgraded my system
from a Core 2 Solo Celeron 420 to a Core 2 Duo E4500 yet Windows started
as normal and when I right-clicked 'My Computer' it correctly identified
the CPU as having two cores. Works just fine. (Win XP Pro, SP2).
Click to expand...

It might identify them, but is it using them?!? Open the task manager and
how many CPU charts do you have on your performance tabs?
 
GT said:
It might identify them, but is it using them?!? Open the task manager
and how many CPU charts do you have on your performance tabs?
Click to expand...

Heh! It sure is using them. Running SETI BOINC on both CPUs. Orthos and
Intel TAT both show both CPUs being used, as does MBM5.
 
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