Nvidia ATI Recommendation - Part 2

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I want to thank everyone who gave me advice and I appreciate people not
getting into the this vs. that debates. I am, I think, 95% decided on the
card I will get. I will probably make an order in a couple weeks. I can get
some more cash by dumping some things on Ebay so thats the reason for the
delay. Thanks for all the input!
 
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Jeff Hansman said:
Yeah, I'm shopping too. What'ja settle on?
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OK OK! I wasn't really going to say because I didn't want to hurt feelings
because I got allot of help from everyone. Most retail stores have pretty
high prices and returns policies sometimes aren't so great. Mail order
houses are even worse, but then I guess that's how your getting the lower
price. You don't get a long time to test run the product which makes the
decision ever more trying. PCClub has burned me badly in this area in the
past, twice.

I decided to run with the Radeon Sapphire 9800 Pro. There wasn't a bunch of
bs advertising with oodles of numberings to confuse me. The Pro model has
good Open GL and DX performance. It's looks like there are some driver
issues but it looks like the ATI newsgroup is pretty helpful. From what I
could gather, allot of the problems were from poor board manufactures,
people overclocking, plugging into a crappy mainboard or doing something
else funky. Right now I am running Abit so hopfully there isn't any problems
there. If so I have an Asus as a backup.

Framerate with it I suspect is overrated but I think it will provide enough
to get the job done. I can't ever seem to get what the hardware sites get.

I look forward to finally using FSAA and the Antiseptic filter or whatever
its called. It also is nice to know the 64 bit processors will put new life
in the card.

I'm going to order from Newegg in about an hour and slap it on the ol charge
card and should have it by next week.

This will be my last cross post between both newsgroups and appreciate
people bearing with me, but I needed info!

Time to retire the G4 4200 *sniff*
 
"...Framerate with it I suspect is overrated but I think it will provide
enough
to get the job done. I can't ever seem to get what the hardware sites get.
..."

I see a lot of people posting suspectr numbers also. A lot depends on the
cpu and graphic settings but I think people tend to post their highest
framerates as typical. On my machines and others I see a different picture
though the benchmarks I've done do seem close to review results.
I think a big thing is people tending to post their highest framerates as
typical. When gaming I spend little time staring at the sky or walls, where
framerates are highest. And hard (graphically) parts of maps or scenes with
lots of framrate slowing effects are what I use as a benchmark for
playability, which is usually ignored in bragging session.

But congrats on the card, I have the sapphire 9800non-pro clocked to pro
speeds and it's very nice, 2xAA and sometimes even 4xAA and 8xAF is usually
good in CoD and Kotor though KOTOR is a bit slow. All eye candy is maxed
and I have an xp2500 at 2.2Ghz/200fsb pushing the card.

Cheers,
Mike
 
Sam Higgins said:
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I'm going to order from Newegg in about an hour and slap it on the ol charge
card and should have it by next week.

This will be my last cross post between both newsgroups and appreciate
people bearing with me, but I needed info!

Time to retire the G4 4200 *sniff*
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NewEgg ships very fast, plus they use FedEx two day. You'll have your card
in three days, four tops. You will not regret buying the card or getting it
from NewEgg. They are hands down the very best online store, period. I had
problems with my Gainward 4200 after 7 months. I sent it back and they
replaced it with an Asus. The memory was clocked out of the box at 550! It
was their top of the line 4200. I was very pleased. I clocked that baby to
310/670 no problems. But my Sapphire 9800 Pro kicks the crap out of it. Do
what I did. Go to ATI and dl'ed the "Chimp" , "Pipe Dreams" and any other
demo you can find on there site (just do a search for "demo")
Crank the AA to 4x , and make sure you wrap a towel around your head to keep
your jaw from clanking on your keyboard and knocking out some teeth :)
I've ran every demo and gaming benchmark I have and I still can't get over
what this card can do. For those out there that say that the 9800Pro suck
with Open GL I say put down the crack pipe. I've been experimenting with
"DroneZmark" which is a OpenGL benchmark that is still very demanding and
lets you really tweak the settings. I get 129fps at 1600x1200 with 6x AA and
16tri Aniso. With the same res with 4x AA and 4xtri Aniso I get 149fps. This
is with a 2GHz P4. I think I can live with that!
JLC
 
Folk said:
This makes sense if you're trying to hide in a pr0n group, but is poor
form in a hardware forum where others might learn from your post.
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I was doing it for privacy reasons and I didn't think anything I said would
really be of that much value. Now that I have contemplated this more, it
makes sense and I take that as a compliment. So I won't do it anymore. (-:
 
NewEgg ships very fast, plus they use FedEx two day. You'll have your card
in three days, four tops. You will not regret buying the card or getting it
from NewEgg. They are hands down the very best online store, period. I had
problems with my Gainward 4200 after 7 months. I sent it back and they
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The deadbeat FX5600XT I bought and returned was a Gainward, ironic.
replaced it with an Asus. The memory was clocked out of the box at 550! It
was their top of the line 4200. I was very pleased. I clocked that baby to
310/670 no problems. But my Sapphire 9800 Pro kicks the crap out of it. Do
what I did. Go to ATI and dl'ed the "Chimp" , "Pipe Dreams" and any other
demo you can find on there site (just do a search for "demo")
Crank the AA to 4x , and make sure you wrap a towel around your head to keep
your jaw from clanking on your keyboard and knocking out some teeth :)
I've ran every demo and gaming benchmark I have and I still can't get over
what this card can do. For those out there that say that the 9800Pro suck
with Open GL I say put down the crack pipe. I've been experimenting with
"DroneZmark" which is a OpenGL benchmark that is still very demanding and
lets you really tweak the settings. I get 129fps at 1600x1200 with 6x AA and
16tri Aniso. With the same res with 4x AA and 4xtri Aniso I get 149fps. This
is with a 2GHz P4. I think I can live with that!
JLC
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I will download the demo and I look forward to them. Reading more through
the newsgroup I read about overclocking and turning off EAX for better
framerate. I just did this with my G4 4200 and Halo. Now I get a pretty
decent framerate when inside the ships and buildings. Before it was kinda
choppy. Halo for some reason has never looked quite right. I can't wait to
crank it up on the new card so I have stopped playing it. I am also curious
to dink around with Kingpin on the new card.
 
I will download the demo and I look forward to them. Reading more through
the newsgroup I read about overclocking and turning off EAX for better
framerate. I just did this with my G4 4200 and Halo. Now I get a pretty
decent framerate when inside the ships and buildings. Before it was kinda
choppy. Halo for some reason has never looked quite right. I can't wait to
crank it up on the new card so I have stopped playing it. I am also curious
to dink around with Kingpin on the new card.
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Dude Kingpin will scream with everything fully cranked. If you really want
to go nuts, go buy Unreal 2. It's super cheap and worth it just to see what
this card can do. I was totally blown away. When it came out it was
criticized for being a tech demo. Well for the $15 it sells for now it's a
good buy just to play around with. It sure is a whole lot more impressive
then F**king Kingpin :) JLC
 
I will download the demo and I look forward to them. Reading more through
the newsgroup I read about overclocking and turning off EAX for better
framerate. I just did this with my G4 4200 and Halo. Now I get a pretty
decent framerate when inside the ships and buildings. Before it was kinda
choppy. Halo for some reason has never looked quite right. I can't wait to
crank it up on the new card so I have stopped playing it. I am also curious
to dink around with Kingpin on the new card.
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Oh I forgot to give you the link to DroneZmark http://tinyurl.com/2xbkr. I
must have played it 15 times last night. I just couldn't get over how cool
it looked with the high quality textures turned on with 4xAA and 16tri
Aniso. I've used this program for a long time with to last couple of cards
I've owned. I really thought the 4200 did a great job, tell now :) I'm
really looking forward to you getting back to us after you have played
around with your new card. Have fun! JLC
 
On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 04:49:57 GMT, "Sam Higgins"
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I will download the demo and I look forward to them. Reading more through
the newsgroup I read about overclocking and turning off EAX for better
framerate. I just did this with my G4 4200 and Halo. Now I get a pretty
decent framerate when inside the ships and buildings. Before it was kinda
choppy. Halo for some reason has never looked quite right. I can't wait to
crank it up on the new card so I have stopped playing it. I am also curious
to dink around with Kingpin on the new card.
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Hey... me again... (64bit dude... telling ya how crappy the 5600xt
is... hey, ATI's 9600se is also 64bit)

HALO is a shitty game... mind you, the CONCEPT, the music, voice
acting and many parts of the single player aspect is good.

But many levels SUCK (over and over again, same bloody room) and its
Multiplayer ability is a COMPLETE JOKE! okay, a crappy joke. Come
on, only 3-4 playable maps for multiplayer - GAG!

Try out the UT2004 demo, it SMOKES HALO. www.unreal.com - click on
the Unreal Tornement Icon(s). Click on downoad demo t hingy.

Let me know ;)
 
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