NTFS at CF?

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Micha

Hi all

can i use NTFS on CF-card?
XP only offers Fat

or can i use NTFS only after making the device non-removable?

regards
 
it should work. I use CF with NTFS and Format them using W2k diskmanager. So
there should be no difference. The CF is connected direct to the IDE
controller in a CF slot, not using an external USB card reader.
NTFS has also the advantage that the boot record is included. You must mark
the partiton also as 'active' for a bootable disk. I found it also important
to format the CF on the target hardware, the LBA modes used by Windows and
Bios'es are not compatible (LBA is not a fixed standard). For a Sandisk 'out
of the box' I need the following procedure:
- insert into slot of target HW, target HW is set to LBA mode
- start W2k diskmanager
- delete existing FAT partition
- reboot machine
- create new primary partiton
- format with NTFS
- mark new partition as 'active'
 
OK
i will try this
Danke!

Johannes Stratmann said:
it should work. I use CF with NTFS and Format them using W2k diskmanager. So
there should be no difference. The CF is connected direct to the IDE
controller in a CF slot, not using an external USB card reader.
NTFS has also the advantage that the boot record is included. You must mark
the partiton also as 'active' for a bootable disk. I found it also important
to format the CF on the target hardware, the LBA modes used by Windows and
Bios'es are not compatible (LBA is not a fixed standard). For a Sandisk 'out
of the box' I need the following procedure:
- insert into slot of target HW, target HW is set to LBA mode
- start W2k diskmanager
- delete existing FAT partition
- reboot machine
- create new primary partiton
- format with NTFS
- mark new partition as 'active'
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You should mark it non-removable.
This will allow you to create partitions, and use CF like HDD.
Also you need this to be able to use EWF.

Regards,
Slobodan
 
If you contact the regular channels, you are wasting time.
Also, you have to have industrial cards.
I wish we did not have to do this (you listening MS?) having to do this step
is such a pain and limits our availability and cost for media.
If we did not have this restriction, then I could lower my costs by $40 by
opening myself up to more vendors and not having to set the media manually.
Having to use non-removable media type CF cards seems to wast ALOT of
people's time and keeps us from going on with our development. I know I
personally have wasted weeks in getting my product out the door because of
this. If MS had a patch to XPe to get around this, We all and MS would save
ALOT of time.

You have to contact this guy at Sandisk:
(e-mail address removed)
 
I don't use this tool, its only necessary for the EWF. It is possible to use
only one partition and boot from this. But you should run the First Boot on
a HD, it takes very long time on a CF and can kill it because of too many
write operations.
 
Have you contacted other manufacturers such as Transcend and Unigen? Both
supply us cards which are already marked non-removable.
 
Are you certain that you can format removable CF using NTFS?

As I can recall too many belongs to fuzzy logic terminology. Few hundreds or
even thousands writes to same flash block wont damage that block. I can be
wrong but I don't think that FBA will write so many times at same flash
block.
CF that can't withstand much more (fuzzy again) than 10000 writes is not
worth buying.

And I agree that whenever possible you should do FBA on HDD because it is
much faster (at least for slow CF).

Regards,
Slobodan
 
Be aware though the NTFS is a lot "chattier" than FAT. This means many more
writes to the CF than you would otherwise see in FAT. Are you using EWF to
protect the CF?
Anil [MS] "This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
no rights"
 
OK i use NTFS on CF now.
thanks for the the notice about using Win2k to format the CF.

The FBA needs about 7-10 minutes on a 1,2 GHz machine
the cf cards i use are only for devolepment.

Now i ´m searching for a disk which is not marked as "removable"

regards


Anil Ingle said:
Be aware though the NTFS is a lot "chattier" than FAT. This means many more
writes to the CF than you would otherwise see in FAT. Are you using EWF to
protect the CF?
Anil [MS] "This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
no rights"

Micha said:
Hi all

can i use NTFS on CF-card?
XP only offers Fat

or can i use NTFS only after making the device non-removable?

regards
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