norton - what the heck is that about?

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Hi I have the Norton SystemWorks 2002 installed. After installation, it
says, "Congratulations, this product will work until (365 days later)."

After I reloaded my computer , then reloaded Norton SystemWorks 2002 , the
program again said again, "Congratulations, this product will work until
(365 days later)."

Thereby I extended its lifespan 7 months


What is up with that? Can I keep reinstalling till infinity?
Also looking thru the program itself, there is no place that it tells me
when the product really does expire.

What could they possibly be thinking? It certainly was not about the user
interface....

Can I keep reinstalling till infinity?
 
Can I keep reinstalling till infinity?
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I doubt it. If you registed NAV 2002 when you first installed it, then the
one year ability to receive updates will be measured from the initial time.
That is the way it is supposed to work. You find out when the update
ability expires when a notice appears on your screen to update within xx
days. You can continue to use the NAV without updates if you wish.
 
Good! said:
Hi I have the Norton SystemWorks 2002 installed. After installation, it
says, "Congratulations, this product will work until (365 days later)."

After I reloaded my computer , then reloaded Norton SystemWorks 2002 , the
program again said again, "Congratulations, this product will work until
(365 days later)."

Thereby I extended its lifespan 7 months


What is up with that? Can I keep reinstalling till infinity?
Also looking thru the program itself, there is no place that it tells me
when the product really does expire.

What could they possibly be thinking? It certainly was not about the user
interface....

Can I keep reinstalling till infinity?
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probably, but at some point the engine will just be too old to bother
with... it is 2004 now, after all...
 
Isn't that what live update does?
It downloads updates thereby keeping my NAV up to date?
Why do I care how old the engine is as long as the virus definitions are up
to date..?

Why is this a mystery program?

Also, I did not register the program. (Although I really did buy it). I do
not want their marketiing.

Thanks
 
If you do not register the program when you install it, everytime you format and
reinstall your OS you can then reinstall and use Norton for another 365 days. If
you just uninstall Norton and them try to reinstall it will know it was
installed before. It takes a clean registry to reuse it.

Bre
 
Good! wrote:
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kurt wismer said:
Good! wrote: [snip]
What is up with that? Can I keep reinstalling till infinity?
Also looking thru the program itself, there is no place that it tells me
when the product really does expire.

What could they possibly be thinking? It certainly was not about the
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user
interface....

Can I keep reinstalling till infinity?
Click to expand...

probably, but at some point the engine will just be too old to bother
with... it is 2004 now, after all...
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
Isn't that what live update does?
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as far as i know, no... i could be wrong, but i don't believe that's
how they worked out their business model - definition updates were
essentially free so the live update component is not a problem, but
engine upgrades ~= product updates and those are a service they intend
to make money off and thus require a means of collecting more money
from the customer (although upgrades may be a nominal charge compared
to buying the latest product anew, in order to foster customer loyalty)...

please keep in mind that there are *2* things to keep up to date with
any anti-virus scanner... the virus definitions and the scanning
engine... the virus definitions are easily updated and that's what live
update does...
It downloads updates thereby keeping my NAV up to date?
Why do I care how old the engine is as long as the virus definitions are up
to date..?
Click to expand...

as improvements are made to the scanning engine (and improvements
invariably must be made over time to optimize performance and/or deal
with new types types of methods that viruses employ), those
improvements will be assumed to exist when writing the virus
definitions... what that means to you the user is that if you don't
have an up to date engine the definitions that were written with it in
mind will not really work and you won't necessarily have protection
against all the viruses you have definitions for...

as it has just turned 2004, nav 2002 probably still has some miles left
in it... come 2005, though, i'd start to wonder about it if i were
you... it might be worth your while to start looking into an upgrade to
2003 or maybe even 2004 (maybe)...
Why is this a mystery program?
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not sure what you mean by this...
 
Yes, that is my experience. How odd.



Bre said:
If you do not register the program when you install it, everytime you format and
reinstall your OS you can then reinstall and use Norton for another 365 days. If
you just uninstall Norton and them try to reinstall it will know it was
installed before. It takes a clean registry to reuse it.

Bre
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Hey very good explanation! thanks!

kurt wismer said:
Good! wrote:
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kurt wismer said:
Good! wrote: [snip]
What is up with that? Can I keep reinstalling till infinity?
Also looking thru the program itself, there is no place that it tells me
when the product really does expire.

What could they possibly be thinking? It certainly was not about the
user

interface....

Can I keep reinstalling till infinity?

probably, but at some point the engine will just be too old to bother
with... it is 2004 now, after all...
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
Isn't that what live update does?
Click to expand...

as far as i know, no... i could be wrong, but i don't believe that's
how they worked out their business model - definition updates were
essentially free so the live update component is not a problem, but
engine upgrades ~= product updates and those are a service they intend
to make money off and thus require a means of collecting more money
from the customer (although upgrades may be a nominal charge compared
to buying the latest product anew, in order to foster customer loyalty)...

please keep in mind that there are *2* things to keep up to date with
any anti-virus scanner... the virus definitions and the scanning
engine... the virus definitions are easily updated and that's what live
update does...
It downloads updates thereby keeping my NAV up to date?
Why do I care how old the engine is as long as the virus definitions are up
to date..?
Click to expand...

as improvements are made to the scanning engine (and improvements
invariably must be made over time to optimize performance and/or deal
with new types types of methods that viruses employ), those
improvements will be assumed to exist when writing the virus
definitions... what that means to you the user is that if you don't
have an up to date engine the definitions that were written with it in
mind will not really work and you won't necessarily have protection
against all the viruses you have definitions for...

as it has just turned 2004, nav 2002 probably still has some miles left
in it... come 2005, though, i'd start to wonder about it if i were
you... it might be worth your while to start looking into an upgrade to
2003 or maybe even 2004 (maybe)...
Why is this a mystery program?
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not sure what you mean by this...

--
"hungry people don't stay hungry for long
they get hope from fire and smoke as the weak grow strong
hungry people don't stay hungry for long
they get hope from fire and smoke as they reach for the dawn"
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kurt explained:

[...]

as improvements are made to the scanning engine (and improvements
invariably must be made over time to optimize performance and/or deal
with new types types of methods that viruses employ), those
improvements will be assumed to exist when writing the virus
definitions... what that means to you the user is that if you don't
have an up to date engine the definitions that were written with it in
mind will not really work and you won't necessarily have protection
against all the viruses you have definitions for...

Good! proclaimed:

Hey very good explanation! thanks!

I agreed:

Yes, it was a very good explanation.

Perhaps I shouldn't feel so safe when my NAV 5.0 tells me
I have "the most current protection against viruses", or some
such thing, after I have updated the definitions. ;O)
 
exactly. Maybe we should feel safer if they would get this licensing part
down to start with.


then the user interface..


then the definitions


then the engine...
 
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