Norton Internet Security 2006

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Vedran Bogdanic

I have a problem.When i turn off outgoing e-mail scanning norton tells
me it reduces protection of my PC.I can choose for how long do I want to
turn it off.Whatever I choose(15min,...,permanently) it doesn't take
effect.I click on OK but when I open options again outgoing e-mail
scanning isn't turned off.I want to make it permanently because scanning
of an e-mail takes more than 15 minutes.
Who can help me?
 
Vedran said:
I have a problem.When i turn off outgoing e-mail scanning norton tells
me it reduces protection of my PC.I can choose for how long do I want
to turn it off.Whatever I choose(15min,...,permanently) it doesn't
take effect.I click on OK but when I open options again outgoing
e-mail scanning isn't turned off.I want to make it permanently
because scanning of an e-mail takes more than 15 minutes.
Who can help me?

Vedran...just for your info. When I got my xp it came with norton internet
security 2005 and one of the first things I did was to uninstall it since IE
wouldn't work without disabling its (norton's) firewall, and when I did that
the windows firewall wouldn't stay enabled (it was a mess as I recall). And
it came from the factory on my new xp which runs on windows and uses IE -
duh!! I put my old NAV 2004 on the pc, and will install the free AVG when
it expires.

Anyway, I remember seeing the crap you are talking about also. I don't know
why they can't make this crap more user friendly. What I don't understand
is why it would take 15 minutes to scan an e-mail. My 2004 NAV scans
e-mails real quick. That doesn't sound right. The guru's in the group will
have to help you. I'm just a lowly user tossing in my two cents. Good
luck...Pete
 
Pete said:
Vedran...just for your info. When I got my xp it came with norton internet
security 2005 and one of the first things I did was to uninstall it since IE
wouldn't work without disabling its (norton's) firewall, and when I did that
the windows firewall wouldn't stay enabled (it was a mess as I recall). And
it came from the factory on my new xp which runs on windows and uses IE -
duh!! I put my old NAV 2004 on the pc, and will install the free AVG when
it expires.

Anyway, I remember seeing the crap you are talking about also. I don't know
why they can't make this crap more user friendly. What I don't understand
is why it would take 15 minutes to scan an e-mail. My 2004 NAV scans
e-mails real quick. That doesn't sound right. The guru's in the group will
have to help you. I'm just a lowly user tossing in my two cents. Good
luck...Pete

Norton is a bad program, (slow and bloated, I remove it from customers
PC's almost daily...
remove it and install Kaspernsky AV, or AVG, (by Grisoft.com) there is a
free version too,
and MS Antispyware, and look for and install, ZoneAlarm free firewall
If you want the links E-mail me at (e-mail address removed)

Mich...
 
Vedran Bogdanic said:
I have a problem.When i turn off outgoing e-mail scanning norton tells
me it reduces protection of my PC.I can choose for how long do I want to
turn it off.Whatever I choose(15min,...,permanently) it doesn't take
effect.I click on OK but when I open options again outgoing e-mail
scanning isn't turned off.I want to make it permanently because scanning
of an e-mail takes more than 15 minutes.
Who can help me?

How can turning off OUTgoing email scanning reduce the protection of YOUR
PC??
Symantec just like to ensure that they have free advertising in your emails!
http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/nav.nsf/docid/2001082921552806
Note also that scanning of incoming mail is problematic - and should also be
disabled, as it provides no extra protection to the PC than an active
scanner will at the time you open your email.
http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/nav.nsf/docid/2002111812533106
<quote>
Is my computer still protected against viruses if I disable Email Scanning?
Disabling Email Scanning does not leave you unprotected against viruses that
are distributed as email attachments. Norton AntiVirus Auto-Protect scans
incoming files as they are saved to your hard drive, including email and
email attachments. Email Scanning is just another layer on top of this. To
make sure that Auto-Protect is providing the maximum protection, keep
Auto-Protect enabled and run LiveUpdate regularly to ensure that you have
the most recent virus definitions.
</quote>

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read on how to post messages to NG's
 
Noel said:
How can turning off OUTgoing email scanning reduce the protection of
YOUR PC??
Symantec just like to ensure that they have free advertising in your
emails!

Noel...how does this work. I have sent myself testing e-mails just recently
(and many times in the past) and I have never seen any advertising in the
e-mail I receive. I am using NAV 2004. I guess I should shut if off
anyway, along with the incoming like you say, although I always thought it
was a little extra safe to check the incoming (even though autoprotect will
pick anything up like you said)...Pete
 
Pete said:
Noel...how does this work. I have sent myself testing e-mails just
recently (and many times in the past) and I have never seen any
advertising in the e-mail I receive. I am using NAV 2004. I guess I
should shut if off anyway, along with the incoming like you say, although
I always thought it was a little extra safe to check the incoming (even
though autoprotect will pick anything up like you said)...Pete



WRT incoming mail - this can lead to a false sense of security, as the email
is scanned on delivery - and if the user turns off updating on the AV, then
if the file was not recognised on download, then it ain't never gonna get
recognised the AV hasn't been updated to include the defs for the particular
malware the email contained ("I scanned it on download, and it was OK - why
did my machine wipe all my files?")! (remember that NAV is installed in
time-limited form to what amounts to the majority of new PC's!!)

NAV may not be one of the companies that use the opportunity of scanning
outgoing mail to advertise (probably on the basis that they think they have
a total grip on the market - which hopefully will change!) - but any
outgoing email from a PC can be (and in some AV's is) automatically 'signed'
as clean before it leaves the sender's machine.
There are a number of problems with this approach
1) some vendors (including Grisoft) attach the 'this email is virus free'
data in such a way that the form of the email is significantly change - so
If I was to send you a plain-text email, it would in fact arrive as an HTML
email!
2) the assurance of being 'virus free' is worth exactly the paper it is
written on - Nothing! - since there can be any number of steps between
emission of the email from the sender's PC, and receipt at the target PC.
3) receivers of emails 'signed' by AV companies tend to take less
precautions with the received email than they would do with the same email
received from a known source, but an unknown attachment - and the
'signature' itself could potentially be part of a virus!

I could go on - but I hope that you get the gist of my argument?

ANY virus scan of anything is dependent on two things - the cleverness of
the scanner, and the time at which it's scanned.
The best time to scan ANYTHING is the second before you use it - with
definitions generated and downloaded immediately prior (leaving aside the
'efficiency' of the scanner itself!)

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read on how to post messages to NG's
 
Noel said:
WRT incoming mail - this can lead to a false sense of security, as
the email is scanned on delivery - and if the user turns off
updating on the AV, then if the file was not recognised on download,
then it ain't never gonna get recognised the AV hasn't been updated
to include the defs for the particular malware the email contained
("I scanned it on download, and it was OK - why did my machine wipe
all my files?")! (remember that NAV is installed in time-limited form
to what amounts to the majority of new PC's!!)
NAV may not be one of the companies that use the opportunity of
scanning outgoing mail to advertise (probably on the basis that they
think they have a total grip on the market - which hopefully will
change!) - but any outgoing email from a PC can be (and in some AV's
is) automatically 'signed' as clean before it leaves the sender's
machine. There are a number of problems with this approach
1) some vendors (including Grisoft) attach the 'this email is virus
free' data in such a way that the form of the email is significantly
change - so If I was to send you a plain-text email, it would in fact
arrive as an HTML email!
2) the assurance of being 'virus free' is worth exactly the paper it
is written on - Nothing! - since there can be any number of steps
between emission of the email from the sender's PC, and receipt at
the target PC. 3) receivers of emails 'signed' by AV companies tend
to take less precautions with the received email than they would do
with the same email received from a known source, but an unknown
attachment - and the 'signature' itself could potentially be part of
a virus!
I could go on - but I hope that you get the gist of my argument?

ANY virus scan of anything is dependent on two things - the
cleverness of the scanner, and the time at which it's scanned.
The best time to scan ANYTHING is the second before you use it - with
definitions generated and downloaded immediately prior (leaving aside
the 'efficiency' of the scanner itself!)

Thanks Noel...acknowledged...Pete
 
Noel Paton - 01.02.2006 23:21 :
YW, Pete - I think I got this one right! :)

Noel and Pete and in general: usually there is no need always
fullquoting all quoting lines again only to say a single answer line.
Please, think about right quoting behavior. THX in advance for your kind
understanding.
 
Peter said:
Noel Paton - 01.02.2006 23:21 :


Noel and Pete and in general: usually there is no need always
fullquoting all quoting lines again only to say a single answer line.
Please, think about right quoting behavior. THX in advance for your
kind understanding.

Sorry Peter...a carryover from the mozilla groups. They used to insist on
"no snipping and bottom posting" (basically for tracking purposes) in the
old group with the secure netscape server. Now on the new mozilla server,
they encourage snipping (where appropriate) but still insist on bottom
posting. When in Rome do as the Romans do :-) ...Pete
 
Pete - 02.02.2006 20:21 :
Sorry Peter...a carryover from the mozilla groups. They used to insist on
"no snipping and bottom posting" (basically for tracking purposes) in the
old group with the secure netscape server. Now on the new mozilla server,
they encourage snipping (where appropriate) but still insist on bottom
posting. When in Rome do as the Romans do :-) ...Pete

Pete, snipping (where appropriate) and bottom posting really is the good
common welltried practice especially for a good reading especially
within long threads, AFAIK. There are some good arguments for this
behavior. But contrarely more and more people are too lazy/unsocial for
snipping for example. But: It's not worth starting a flame war now.

Well, I read/write (german/de...) Mozilla groups regularely and there
the described behavior also is favorised.

(excuse my bad English but I'm German and English is not my first language)

THX for your kind feedback and have a nice day, Pete,
 
Take your "bottom posting" bullshit philosophy and shove it UP YOUR ASS!
Jesus Christ..get a ****ING Life!!!
 
Charlie - 03.02.2006 10:40 :
Take your "bottom posting" bullshit philosophy and shove it UP YOUR ASS!
Jesus Christ..get a ****ING Life!!!

Charlie, THX for your kind reply-words. You are right. Your pro top
posting arguments convinced me ;-) Nothing about my quoting behavior
arguments?

BTW: Please do not quote after your SIG delimiter. This also is no good
usenet behavior. A SIG should contain only max. 4 lines. Please learn to
quote. Look how the serious experienced "regulars" are acting. THX in
advance.
 
Take your "bottom posting" bullshit philosophy

It's not bullshit. It's correct netiquette for all usenet despite
claims to the contrary about top posting being the norm on some
newsgroups.
 
Peter said:
Pete - 02.02.2006 20:21 :


Pete, snipping (where appropriate) and bottom posting really is the
good common welltried practice especially for a good reading
especially
within long threads, AFAIK. There are some good arguments for this
behavior. But contrarely more and more people are too lazy/unsocial
for snipping for example. But: It's not worth starting a flame war
now.

Well, I read/write (german/de...) Mozilla groups regularely and there
the described behavior also is favorised.

(excuse my bad English but I'm German and English is not my first
language)

THX for your kind feedback and have a nice day, Pete,

Peter...Your English is very good - much better then many people who are
English speaking by default :-) ...Pete
 
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