nonags.com gone shareware ???

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NoNags might not be a shareware site but they sure are a crap site.
They continuously list freeware programs in their "members only"
section. By doing this they are implying that Nonags is the only place
to get these programs and in a roundabout way making people pay for
freeware.

For those of you that know him, I had to send Robin Keir an email
because they were doing the same thing for some of his freeware.

Look at the program that they have listed just for members to
download. These are just the ones I took the time to search for.

PointCrypt
http://www.winsite.com/bin/Info?17000000036893
NoNags has it listed under members only
http://www.nonags.com/nonags/security.html

HidePro
http://www.superso.com/software/download.php?id=8272
NoNags has it listed under members only
http://www.nonags.com/nonags/security.html

FileDrag
http://www.sharewarejunction.com/info5325.htm
NoNags has it listed under members only
http://www.nonags.com/nonags/miscu.html

Quick Mixer
http://www.geocities.com/quickaudiomixer/index.html
NoNags has it listed under members only
http://www.nonags.com/nonags/autools.html

MetroGnome
http://www.winsite.com/bin/Info?500000000583
NoNags has it listed under members only
http://www.nonags.com/nonags/autools.html
 
John Corliss said:
It's a mirror. There are many, I use this particular one all the time.
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One thing I've finally learnt the long way, about Nonag mirrors. It's
to pay attention when landing on one from something like a Google search.
I've a number of times had a situation where I wasted a lot of time opening
90% dead links. Seems there are a lot of static old mirrors, stopped being
updated years ago, left still hanging around. My lesson is to now check by
Nonag's front door, to verify whether a mirror is active, or whether it's
a leftover museum.
 
Look at the program that they have listed just for members to
download. These are just the ones I took the time to search for.
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True, but like you did there, so I do also...

Nonags has a great freeware list (last I checked) and if they write such a
high review for a program and 'members only' it I'll google it and get it..

Just like Cam Studio has a registerware and their version 2 had all I needed
(and had the SWF producer) I spent a few hours searching but found it
in-and-among a bunch of chinese texts (or Jap)..

I wonder if people were not buying memberships and this is nonags way of
getting suscribers.. It will never really work.. just get the reviews and
search for it :) (then burn it for backup)..
 
omega said:
One thing I've finally learnt the long way, about Nonag mirrors. It's
to pay attention when landing on one from something like a Google search.
I've a number of times had a situation where I wasted a lot of time opening
90% dead links. Seems there are a lot of static old mirrors, stopped being
updated years ago, left still hanging around. My lesson is to now check by
Nonag's front door, to verify whether a mirror is active, or whether it's
a leftover museum.
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Good point and I've noticed the same thing. Going to the main site is
also how I found http://www.k7v.com/nonags/emt.html.
 
Cookie said:
NoNags might not be a shareware site but they sure are a
crap site.
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SO which is the best (i.e. most comprehensive and up to date)
place to look for freeware?

Rgds

Martin
 
SO which is the best (i.e. most comprehensive and up to date)
place to look for freeware?
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I'm not really the one to ask that. I don't put much stock in software
reviews. I find that some of the features that others like or dislike
about programs don't matter to me. I have seen people give a bad
review to a program because they couldn't skin it.

You probably won't find anyything better than this newsgroup. The pros
and cons of most freeware are discussed here at one point. If you
don't happen to see a program mentioned you can always ask what people
think of it, or search Google Groups to see if it was mentioned and
what others had to say about it.
 
Members can download the software from the Nonags server,
otherwise, the author's server download link is provided.
Although I am a NonagsPlus member, this is not a big deal to me
because I *ALWAYS* go to the author's page to download. I often
find last minute changes, warnings, and so on posted by the
author on their own site, that haven't yet reached the other
sites' pages.
 
Members can download the software from the Nonags server,
otherwise, the author's server download link is provided.
Although I am a NonagsPlus member, this is not a big deal to me
because I *ALWAYS* go to the author's page to download. I often
find last minute changes, warnings, and so on posted by the
author on their own site, that haven't yet reached the other
sites' pages.
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Sorry but you are wrong. There is only one download link provided for
the items marked "members" For example look on this page
http://www.nonags.com/nonags/security.html the very last program is
DeskLock the ONLY link that they supply is this one
http://www.nonags.com/nonags/member-files/?id=/security/dsklv25.zip
which is for members only. To be a member you have to pay. So they are
making people pay for freeware.
 
There is only one download link provided for
the items marked "members" For example look on this page
http://www.nonags.com/nonags/security.html the very last program
is DeskLock the ONLY link that they supply is this one
http://www.nonags.com/nonags/member-files/?id=/security/dsklv25.zip
which is for members only. To be a member you have to pay. So they
are making people pay for freeware.
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Both programs at the bottom of that page are marked 'members' and
neither has a homepage that I can find. Are there programs listed at
Nonags which do have homepages but whose homepages are not linked to by
Nonags?
 
»Q« said:
Both programs at the bottom of that page are marked 'members' and
neither has a homepage that I can find. Are there programs listed at
Nonags which do have homepages but whose homepages are not linked to
by Nonags?
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Another "members only" program on that same page :
PointCrypt 3.2.0, dated Jan 27 2002, by Gulf Coastal Software

I remember GCS posted here some months ago that they no longer maintain
a website and they would upload their programs to WinSite.
According to http://www.winsite.com/bin/Search?id=19500000036290 ,
WinSite hosts 23 of their programs, including
PointCrypt 3.6.0, dated July 14 2003.

My conclusion: NoNags' "members only" program listings can be useful,
as a starting point, if you learn about them from Nonags for the first
time.
 
Both programs at the bottom of that page are marked 'members' and
neither has a homepage that I can find. Are there programs
listed at
Nonags which do have homepages but whose homepages are not
linked to by
Nonags?
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Here are atleast two.

noopads
http://www.danish-shareware.dk/soft/noopads

NoNags
http://www.nonags.com/nonags/webt.html They have it listed without the
homepage.

StartPage Guard
http://pjwalczak.com/spguard/index.php

NoNags
http://www.nonags.com/nonags/webt.html


I also found ScripTrap.It was on the secuirty page two days ago
without a homepage. I sent an email to Robin who said
"I will ask them to remove my software since this scheme totally goes
against the freeware ethic."

They seem to list hard to find/abandonware more. A lot of the programs
are from 2000 or even 2002 and don't seem to have offical homepages
anymore.
 
Here are atleast two.

noopads
http://www.danish-shareware.dk/soft/noopads

NoNags
http://www.nonags.com/nonags/webt.html They have it listed without
the homepage.

StartPage Guard
http://pjwalczak.com/spguard/index.php

NoNags
http://www.nonags.com/nonags/webt.html
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Ok, that's not cool. StartPage Guard's page is dated 2002, and
noopads' page is dated July 2003, so it's not as if Nonags could not
have known about or lost track of the homepages. Also, Startpage
Guard's homepage has version 2.51, whereas Nonags members seem to be
getting only version 2.5.
I also found ScripTrap.It was on the secuirty page two days ago
without a homepage. I sent an email to Robin who said
"I will ask them to remove my software since this scheme totally
goes against the freeware ethic."
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I'm glad he will request removal, and I hope they honor it. He
distributes his apps as freeware without license agreements, so I
guess they are not bound by anything other than common courtesy to
abide by his wishes, but it would be pretty slimy not to.
They seem to list hard to find/abandonware more. A lot of the
programs are from 2000 or even 2002 and don't seem to have offical
homepages anymore.
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That I'd have no problem with, but I'd also hope people would look
elsewhere or ask in a.c.f before paying Nonags for access to those
apps.

--
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mean it is. If you don't, it's its. Then too, it's hers.
It isn't her's. It isn't our's either. It's ours, and
likewise yours and theirs.
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