Non deletable Folder

[David C.]

Hello,
NO this is not the AVI winXP problem !

i've got an empty Folder, which can't be deleted.
The system says the floppy or the folder is not accessible.
(So it can not be moved or renamed, or deleted.)

DOS can not neither.
trying to overwrite it with an other folder of the same name just gives 2
folders of the same name !
(one, the new one, regular, the other is the old one). It's like it does
not exists, but it's still in the list !

I remenber such a thing under a NT server, here i'm under Win2k (SP4).
It seems to be a know problem (it happens). But only the AVI winXP problem
seems to have a solution.

Please, what's the solution of this problem ?
(NTFS drive)

 

[David H. Lipman]

Please go to one or more of the below online scanners and perform a scan of your platform
then report back your results.

Trend:
http://housecall.antivirus.com
http://housecall.trendmicro.com

F-Secure:
http://support.f-secure.com/enu/home/ols.shtml

McAfee:
http://www.mcafee.com/myapps/mfs/default.asp

Panda:
http://www.pandasoftware.com/activescan/

Symantec:
http://security.symantec.com/

BitDefender
http://www.bitdefender.com/scan/license.php

Dave





|
| Hello,
| NO this is not the AVI winXP problem !
|
| i've got an empty Folder, which can't be deleted.
| The system says the floppy or the folder is not accessible.
| (So it can not be moved or renamed, or deleted.)
|
| DOS can not neither.
| trying to overwrite it with an other folder of the same name just gives 2
| folders of the same name !
| (one, the new one, regular, the other is the old one). It's like it does
| not exists, but it's still in the list !
|
| I remenber such a thing under a NT server, here i'm under Win2k (SP4).
| It seems to be a know problem (it happens). But only the AVI winXP problem
| seems to have a solution.
|
| Please, what's the solution of this problem ?
| (NTFS drive)
|
| --
| David C.
|
|

 

[David C.]

Thank you but I do have an antivirus on my system.
this is not the point,

please do admit that this happens under windows for years ans is called a
bug.

 

[David H. Lipman]

No I won't admit its a bug and even if you did have anti virus installed, it doesn't make a
difference if the AV software is; old, out of date, not configured correctly, etc. I have
seen many with AV software still get infected.

I gave you a test. Give it a shot. Have you anything to loose (besides the time which you
can multitask) ?

Dave L.




| Thank you but I do have an antivirus on my system.
| this is not the point,
|
| please do admit that this happens under windows for years ans is called a
| bug.
|
|

 

[David C.]

Maybe I should add that this was a regular folder before,
created by me,

it's not an unknown folder,
it's an un-deletable folder.

 

[David H. Lipman]

See what happens when you leave out pertinent facts ;-)

Dave L.





| Maybe I should add that this was a regular folder before,
| created by me,
|
| it's not an unknown folder,
| it's an un-deletable folder.
|
|

 

[David C.]

I answer : I have one means it's updated.
I did test it and I add an other message, because I think I know why you
said that.
But it's not a new unwanted folder. ok ?

I'm not angry, i'm just saying this is not the point of this thread.
It's a bug because it's know as it.
It's a bug because usually people find a solution by changing a regedit key
or doing a windows manip.

the point of this thread:
I'm looking for someone _knowing_ this problem OR it's solution.

 

[David C.]

glad there's the smiley
( because I said this problem is known under win systems )

:-|

 

[David H. Lipman]

Oh I get it...

You want confirmation, not a solution.

Buenos Noches Dave C.

Dave L.
PS having AV software does NOT mean it updated!



| I answer : I have one means it's updated.
| I did test it and I add an other message, because I think I know why you
| said that.
| But it's not a new unwanted folder. ok ?
|
| I'm not angry, i'm just saying this is not the point of this thread.
| It's a bug because it's know as it.
| It's a bug because usually people find a solution by changing a regedit key
| or doing a windows manip.
|
| the point of this thread:
| I'm looking for someone _knowing_ this problem OR it's solution.
|
|

 

[Pegasus]

Hello,
NO this is not the AVI winXP problem !

i've got an empty Folder, which can't be deleted.
The system says the floppy or the folder is not accessible.
(So it can not be moved or renamed, or deleted.)

DOS can not neither.
trying to overwrite it with an other folder of the same name just gives 2
folders of the same name !
(one, the new one, regular, the other is the old one). It's like it does
not exists, but it's still in the list !

I remenber such a thing under a NT server, here i'm under Win2k (SP4).
It seems to be a know problem (it happens). But only the AVI winXP problem
seems to have a solution.

Please, what's the solution of this problem ?
(NTFS drive)

- What exactly is the name of the folder?
- What happens when you try to delete it from a Command Prompt?
(Please quote all messages verbatim!)

 

[David C.]

Oh I get it...

you got nothing !
I'd like a solution, a real one.

do stop please

 

[David C.]

it's a regular 19 chars long folder name,
there's a "-" inside, and one final space.

Let's suppose the name is "nameof-MyFolder "
if I command:
dir nameof-*
it gives a regular answer about this folder (0 file, 1 folder, free space
of P:\)
-->
P:\>dir nameof-*
Le volume dans le lecteur P s'appelle PROG 6Go
Le numéro de série du volume est A4D2-74BD

Répertoire de P:\

04-08-2004 23:18 <DIR> nameof-MyFolder
0 fichier(s) 0 octets
1 Rép(s) 4 232 736 768 octets libres
_____________

BUT if I command:
dir "nameof-MyFolder " without the * but with the paste entire name
then it says file not found
-->
P:\>dir "nameof-MyFolder "
Le volume dans le lecteur P s'appelle PROG 6Go
Le numéro de série du volume est A4D2-74BD

Répertoire de P:\

Fichier introuvable
___________

if I command:
rmdir nameof-my*
it says that the syntax of the file, folder or volume's name is not correct
-->
P:\>rmdir nameof-*
Syntaxe du nom de fichier, de répertoire ou de volume incorrecte.

___________

if I command:
rmdir "nameof-MyFolder "
then it says that the specified file can not be found
-->
P:\>rmdir "nameof-MyFolder "
Le fichier spécifié est introuvable.
____________

 

[Pegasus]

it's a regular 19 chars long folder name,
there's a "-" inside, and one final space.

Let's suppose the name is "nameof-MyFolder "
if I command:
dir nameof-*
it gives a regular answer about this folder (0 file, 1 folder, free space
of P:\)
-->
P:\>dir nameof-*
Le volume dans le lecteur P s'appelle PROG 6Go
Le numéro de série du volume est A4D2-74BD

Répertoire de P:\

04-08-2004 23:18 <DIR> nameof-MyFolder
0 fichier(s) 0 octets
1 Rép(s) 4 232 736 768 octets libres
_____________

BUT if I command:
dir "nameof-MyFolder " without the * but with the paste entire name
then it says file not found
-->
P:\>dir "nameof-MyFolder "
Le volume dans le lecteur P s'appelle PROG 6Go
Le numéro de série du volume est A4D2-74BD

Répertoire de P:\

Fichier introuvable
___________

if I command:
rmdir nameof-my*
it says that the syntax of the file, folder or volume's name is not correct
-->
P:\>rmdir nameof-*
Syntaxe du nom de fichier, de répertoire ou de volume incorrecte.

___________

if I command:
rmdir "nameof-MyFolder "
then it says that the specified file can not be found
-->
P:\>rmdir "nameof-MyFolder "
Le fichier spécifié est introuvable.
____________

You may have some invisible characters in your folder name.
Try this:
- Start a Command Prompt
- Type this:
cmd /fn
- Navigate to the parent of the problem folder
- Type this:
rd /s /q (do NOT press Enter)
- Now type ^F (Ctrl+F) repeatedly until you see the name
of the problem folder. You can now press Enter.

 

[David C.]

You have to know that I take a look in the other newsgroup you told

This is not very easy in my case, and do not appear to be a solution (not
possible to do such a complicated thing).

 

[John John]

You might have to use the RM.EXE or other such POSIX tool in the
resource kit. This article may help.

How to Remove Files with Reserved Names in Windows
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=120716

John

 

[David C.]

How to Remove Files with Reserved Names in Windows

http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=120716

I think "reserved name" is not the point.
It really acts like if the folder is not on the disk BUT the name is still
in the TOC (on the disk).
Or maybe the opposite. What i'm saying is: "maybe an application or windows
missed something on the disk, and then produced this situation".

Because this article was not helping.
(I didn't find rm.exe for free, so i didn't use it. But everything else show
my conclusion).

That's why i'm wondering if a simple disk-level-application can do
something
( without the risk of manipulationg "bit per bit" the disk )

PS/ if you know where downloading rm.exe i'm interested in )