No Sound Recorder

Lorraine W · Nov 7, 2008

I'm trying to transfer cassette tape files to my computer so I can re-record
to CDs.

I'm running XP Pro SP2 (OEM), and have built in 7.1 channel HD audio built
into the ASUS motherboard (custom built computer). When I go to start> all
programs> accessories> entertainment, the only thing listed is Windows Media
Player. There is no sound recorder as there was on my old computer.

I tried to install it by clicking on "Add/remove Windows Components", but
there was no "Entertainment Category". It didn't matter whether I did this
from the control panel or from the Windows install screen from the OEM disc.
I tried reinstalling the "Accessories and Utilities" but that didn't help -
still no sound recorder.

I also checked the OEM disc from my old computer (which my hubby has) and it
didn't have the "entertainment" category either, but the sound recorder is
shown in the all programs> accessories> entertainment category. I'm pretty
sure it was always there, meaning I didn't install it later.

I checked the line in on the back of the computer by creating a loop and it
is active and working properly.

I'm wondering if this could be a problem arising from a Windows Update? I
tried my old computer and it now doesn't recognize the line in or the tape
deck. It was fine when I first did this, but I only got a few of my tapes
transferred. Not sure when it stopped working though.

Can anyone please help me to fix this?

Lorraine
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Bill in Co. · Nov 7, 2008

I don't know how much help this will be, but I believe the sound recorder
file is located here: \windows\system32\sndrec32.exe. You could create a
shortcut to it there, and then move the shortcut into the Accessories Menu,
and perhaps get Sound Recorder back again that way (assuming that
sndrec32.exe file is still on your HD, which I bet it is).

Lorraine W · Nov 7, 2008

Thanks Bill. I did that, and got the shortcut in the menu, but my tape deck
still isn't being "heard".

Lorraine
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

philo · Nov 7, 2008

Lorraine W said:
Thanks Bill. I did that, and got the shortcut in the menu, but my tape deck
still isn't being "heard".

Lorraine

Don't bother with Windows sound recorder
it has a limit of one minute
so it's useless

I use Total Recorder...but you may want to ask on the freeware group
as I am sure there is free stuff out there that works

Bill in Co. · Nov 7, 2008

philo said:
Don't bother with Windows sound recorder
it has a limit of one minute so it's useless

Good point. It is next to useless for most audio work, except that she
can at least check if some of her audio system is intact. Its one minute
and WAV output limitation is pretty limiting. WAV files are HUGE - I'd
suggest using mp3s.

I use Total Recorder...but you may want to ask on the freeware group
as I am sure there is free stuff out there that works.

There are quite a few audio programs, and most aren't expensive. Probably
a good starting point would be over at www.download.com, which also has some
user reviews.

Lorraine W · Nov 7, 2008

Thanks for the input Bill & Philo, but before I didn't need ANYTHING to be
able to play the tapes through the computer just using an RCA to 3.5MM
Stereo Mini (Y cable).

I have Roxio Media Creator 10 for recording, but when I try to set that up
for recording, there is nothing in the drop down box for "Capture from" or
"line in".

The tape deck plays fine through a receiver, the line in on the motherboard
is OK, but the computer just doesn't want to "hear it".

Any other suggestions?

Lorraine
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Bill in Co. · Nov 8, 2008

Lorraine said:
Thanks for the input Bill & Philo, but before I didn't need ANYTHING to be
able to play the tapes through the computer just using an RCA to 3.5MM
Stereo Mini (Y cable).

Right - you don't need Sound Recorder for that. (but the fact that it was
missing from Accessories is also somewhat puzzling, but may be just
coincidental)

I have Roxio Media Creator 10 for recording, but when I try to set that up
for recording, there is nothing in the drop down box for "Capture from"
or
"line in".

But that might be an issue with Roxio Media Creator and not your computer's
sound controller (not sure). (I don't have Roxio Media Creator, but I do
have its predecessor, EZCD (Easy CD Creator), and some other audio apps).
More below....

The tape deck plays fine through a receiver,

I assume here you are talking about a direct connection between the Line Out
of the tape deck to the Auxilliary (or whatever) inputs of the receiver,
without the computer being involved. So we know the issue is either with
Roxio or the computer's audio system.

Does your computer sound work on any sounds? Say like booting up, or
playing any existing music files, in WMP? But I'm guessing it does.

the line in on the motherboard
is OK, but the computer just doesn't want to "hear it".

Any other suggestions?

How do you know for a fact that the Line Input on the motherboard's sound
controller is working ok? See, if I recall, you haven't been able to get
any sound on your computer while using its Line Inputs.

Bill in Co. · Nov 8, 2008

Addended. Maybe you should also check out Device Manager, and see what you
find out there for the audio devices (and look out for those yellow
exclamation points!).

Lorraine W · Nov 8, 2008

Thanks for all your input and work on this Bill. My replies and comments
follow each of yours below.

Bill in Co. said:
Right - you don't need Sound Recorder for that. (but the fact that it was
missing from Accessories is also somewhat puzzling, but may be just
coincidental)

The sound recorder works (even though missing from the programs menu) as it
recorded the audio test I did by creating a loop following these
instructions rec'd from the tech where the computer was manufactured.:
--------------------------------
"To Test Sound Card Line-In Jack Using Audio Loopback (RealTek):

This technique will cause the computer to record signal emitted from the
speaker output.

1. Use a double-ended mini-DIN 8mm headphone cable.
2. Connect one end of the cable to the speaker output jack (lime)
3. Connect the other end of the cable to the line-in jack (blue)
4. Go to the Control Panel and start the Sound and Audio Devices applet.
5. In the Device Volume section, click on "Advanced"
6. Go to the Options menu, then Properties menu item
7. Choose "Realtek HD Audio Input" from the Mixer device list
8. Place a checkmark in the Recording Control, CD Volume, Line Volume,
and Mic Volume items
9. Click Ok
10. In the Recording Control, ensure the Recording volume is high, and
that all controls are UNmuted
11. Go to Start>All Programs>Accessories>Entertainment>Sound Recorder
(or enter %systemroot%\system32\sndrec32.exe in Start>Run box)
12. Open the RealTek Audio I/O Control (double-click on the brown
speaker icon in the task tray next to the clock, or go to the RealTek HD
Sound Effect Manager in the Control Panel)
13. Click on the Audio I/O tab and ensure that the Line-In (blue) and
Speaker Out (green) indicators are lit up. If they are not, you may
have a cable problem.
14. Go to the 3D Audio Demo tab
15. Click on the play button at the lower right
16. In the Sound Recorder tool started in step 11, click on the record
button (red dot)
17. If you see a stream of waveforms, your line-in jack are working
correctly and receiving signal from output. If not, there may be a
driver issue or the jack is malfunctioning."
-----------------------------------
Everything worked as it should, and I saw the wave forms.

But that might be an issue with Roxio Media Creator and not your
computer's
sound controller (not sure). (I don't have Roxio Media Creator, but I do
have its predecessor, EZCD (Easy CD Creator), and some other audio apps).
More below....

I don't think so, as it wouldn't work even before I installed Roxio.

I assume here you are talking about a direct connection between the Line
Out
of the tape deck to the Auxilliary (or whatever) inputs of the receiver,
without the computer being involved. So we know the issue is either
with
Roxio or the computer's audio system.

Yes to the first sentence. I think the issue is most likely Windows. On
my old computer I copied tracks from about 5 or 6 cassette tapes with no
problem. Then life got in the way, and I didn't get back to the task for
many months. Then it wouldn't work. I know that I had issues with the
audio control interface (for the intel motherboard with integrated sound)
after some Microsoft updates. Intel helped me sort that out, but I didn't
think then to check out the line in problem.

Does your computer sound work on any sounds? Say like booting up, or
playing any existing music files, in WMP? But I'm guessing it does.

All sounds (except from the line in) work just fine - video files, wma
files, mp3 files and computer sounds.

How do you know for a fact that the Line Input on the motherboard's sound
controller is working ok? See, if I recall, you haven't been able to get
any sound on your computer while using its Line Inputs.

See above.

Lorraine W · Nov 8, 2008

Bill in Co. · Nov 9, 2008

Lorraine said:
Thanks for all your input and work on this Bill. My replies and comments
follow each of yours below.

The sound recorder works (even though missing from the programs menu) as
it
recorded the audio test I did by creating a loop following these
instructions rec'd from the tech where the computer was manufactured.:
--------------------------------
"To Test Sound Card Line-In Jack Using Audio Loopback (RealTek):

This technique will cause the computer to record signal emitted from the
speaker output.

1. Use a double-ended mini-DIN 8mm headphone cable.
2. Connect one end of the cable to the speaker output jack (lime)
3. Connect the other end of the cable to the line-in jack (blue)
4. Go to the Control Panel and start the Sound and Audio Devices applet.
5. In the Device Volume section, click on "Advanced"
6. Go to the Options menu, then Properties menu item
7. Choose "Realtek HD Audio Input" from the Mixer device list
8. Place a checkmark in the Recording Control, CD Volume, Line Volume,
and Mic Volume items
9. Click Ok
10. In the Recording Control, ensure the Recording volume is high, and
that all controls are UNmuted
11. Go to Start>All Programs>Accessories>Entertainment>Sound Recorder
(or enter %systemroot%\system32\sndrec32.exe in Start>Run box)
12. Open the RealTek Audio I/O Control (double-click on the brown
speaker icon in the task tray next to the clock, or go to the RealTek HD
Sound Effect Manager in the Control Panel)
13. Click on the Audio I/O tab and ensure that the Line-In (blue) and
Speaker Out (green) indicators are lit up. If they are not, you may
have a cable problem.
14. Go to the 3D Audio Demo tab
15. Click on the play button at the lower right
16. In the Sound Recorder tool started in step 11, click on the record
button (red dot)
17. If you see a stream of waveforms, your line-in jack are working
correctly and receiving signal from output. If not, there may be a
driver issue or the jack is malfunctioning."

I assume the waveforms created here are due to the positive feedback between
the output and the input (kinda analogous to putting a mic next to a speaker
:-)

I don't think so, as it wouldn't work even before I installed Roxio.

Where is this "drop down box" you're talking about then? I thought it was
in Roxio. Oh, you must be talking about in Realtek. It didn't work before
you installed Roxio? What were you using then at that time to know that?

Yes to the first sentence. I think the issue is most likely Windows. On
my old computer I copied tracks from about 5 or 6 cassette tapes with no
problem. Then life got in the way, and I didn't get back to the task for
many months. Then it wouldn't work. I know that I had issues with the
audio control interface (for the intel motherboard with integrated sound)
after some Microsoft updates. Intel helped me sort that out, but I didn't
think then to check out the line in problem.

OK. I don't know anything about the MS updates, as I never take them (as
in thanks, but no thanks, in part for the reasons you've mentioned, and I
don't need them anyways, and I've been burned once or twice before with
those "updates").

As for having problems before with the audio control interface, then maybe
that's where the problem still lies, possibly as a result of something going
wrong with one of the updates. I just don't know. Perhaps some one else
can weigh in here.

All sounds (except from the line in) work just fine - video files, wma
files, mp3 files and computer sounds.

I see. JUST using the Line In is the problem. Weird...

See above.

OK. Got it. I don't know what else to suggest (I assume you've Googled for
this specific problem a bit and found nothing that seems relevant).

And I read that you also checked Device Manager and found nothing amiss
there (from your later post)

Well, maybe someone else has some ideas. Of course, if you can't get it
resolved, you could always consider adding a sound card and going that
route, but that seems like it should be a last resort.

Oh, one more thing - I assume you've played with the Line Input Volume
control in real time (while the tape is playing), and nothing happens there
either.

Bill in Co. · Nov 9, 2008

Another addendum (after what I just wrote):

Possibly consider uninstalling and reinstalling the Realtek drivers, to see
if that will resolve this "Line In" bugaboo. (or you could also consider
downloading a newer driver for it, if available)

If you decide to try this, do a System Restore operation FIRST, to create a
check point, so you at least have a Restore point to come back to if
anything goes amiss, or things get worse in the process.

Lorraine W · Nov 9, 2008

| Lorraine W wrote:
| > Thanks for all your input and work on this Bill. My replies and
comments
| > follow each of yours below.
| >
| > | >> Lorraine W wrote:
| >>> Thanks for the input Bill & Philo, but before I didn't need ANYTHING
to
| >>> be
| >>> able to play the tapes through the computer just using an RCA to 3.5MM
| >>> Stereo Mini (Y cable).
| >>
| >> Right - you don't need Sound Recorder for that. (but the fact that it
| >> was
| >> missing from Accessories is also somewhat puzzling, but may be just
| >> coincidental)
| >
| > The sound recorder works (even though missing from the programs menu) as
| > it
| > recorded the audio test I did by creating a loop following these
| > instructions rec'd from the tech where the computer was manufactured.:
| > --------------------------------
| > "To Test Sound Card Line-In Jack Using Audio Loopback (RealTek):
| >
| > This technique will cause the computer to record signal emitted from the
| > speaker output.
| >
| > 1. Use a double-ended mini-DIN 8mm headphone cable.
| > 2. Connect one end of the cable to the speaker output jack (lime)
| > 3. Connect the other end of the cable to the line-in jack (blue)
| > 4. Go to the Control Panel and start the Sound and Audio Devices applet.
| > 5. In the Device Volume section, click on "Advanced"
| > 6. Go to the Options menu, then Properties menu item
| > 7. Choose "Realtek HD Audio Input" from the Mixer device list
| > 8. Place a checkmark in the Recording Control, CD Volume, Line Volume,
| > and Mic Volume items
| > 9. Click Ok
| > 10. In the Recording Control, ensure the Recording volume is high, and
| > that all controls are UNmuted
| > 11. Go to Start>All Programs>Accessories>Entertainment>Sound Recorder
| > (or enter %systemroot%\system32\sndrec32.exe in Start>Run box)
| > 12. Open the RealTek Audio I/O Control (double-click on the brown
| > speaker icon in the task tray next to the clock, or go to the RealTek HD
| > Sound Effect Manager in the Control Panel)
| > 13. Click on the Audio I/O tab and ensure that the Line-In (blue) and
| > Speaker Out (green) indicators are lit up. If they are not, you may
| > have a cable problem.
| > 14. Go to the 3D Audio Demo tab
| > 15. Click on the play button at the lower right
| > 16. In the Sound Recorder tool started in step 11, click on the record
| > button (red dot)
| > 17. If you see a stream of waveforms, your line-in jack are working
| > correctly and receiving signal from output. If not, there may be a
| > driver issue or the jack is malfunctioning."
| > -----------------------------------
| > Everything worked as it should, and I saw the wave forms.
|
| I assume the waveforms created here are due to the positive feedback
between
| the output and the input (kinda analogous to putting a mic next to a
speaker
| :-)

No the wave forms were created by playing the test sound file from the
Realtek Audio Manager.

|
| >>> I have Roxio Media Creator 10 for recording, but when I try to set
that
| >>> up for recording, there is nothing in the drop down box for "Capture
| >>> from"
| >>> or "line in".
| >>
| >> But that might be an issue with Roxio Media Creator and not your
| >> computer's
| >> sound controller (not sure). (I don't have Roxio Media Creator, but I
| >> do
| >> have its predecessor, EZCD (Easy CD Creator), and some other audio
apps).
| >> More below....
| >
| > I don't think so, as it wouldn't work even before I installed Roxio.
|
| Where is this "drop down box" you're talking about then? I thought it
was
| in Roxio. Oh, you must be talking about in Realtek. It didn't work
before
| you installed Roxio? What were you using then at that time to know that?

The drop down box is in Roxio "LP and Tape Assistant" under Audio. (I wish
I'd stuck with EZCD - much more user friendly)

What I meant by didn't work before I installed Roxio is that I couldn't hear
any sound coming from the tape deck while being played through the line in
on the computer. That's the whole problem in a nutshell. Man, I
transferred over 150 LP's and the first few tapes with no problem. It was
also nice to just play some of my old tapes and listen through the computer
speakers. Now I can't even to that. GRRR!!!

|
| >>
| >>> The tape deck plays fine through a receiver,
| >>
| >> I assume here you are talking about a direct connection between the
Line
| >> Out of the tape deck to the Auxilliary (or whatever) inputs of the
| >> receiver,
| >> without the computer being involved. So we know the issue is either
| >> with Roxio or the computer's audio system.
| >
| > Yes to the first sentence. I think the issue is most likely Windows.
On
| > my old computer I copied tracks from about 5 or 6 cassette tapes with no
| > problem. Then life got in the way, and I didn't get back to the task
for
| > many months. Then it wouldn't work. I know that I had issues with the
| > audio control interface (for the intel motherboard with integrated
sound)
| > after some Microsoft updates. Intel helped me sort that out, but I
didn't
| > think then to check out the line in problem.
|
| OK. I don't know anything about the MS updates, as I never take them (as
| in thanks, but no thanks, in part for the reasons you've mentioned, and I
| don't need them anyways, and I've been burned once or twice before with
| those "updates").
|
| As for having problems before with the audio control interface, then maybe
| that's where the problem still lies, possibly as a result of something
going
| wrong with one of the updates. I just don't know. Perhaps some one
else
| can weigh in here.

That was on a different computer (the old one with the Intel motherboard).
This one has an ASUS.

|
| >> Does your computer sound work on any sounds? Say like booting up, or
| >> playing any existing music files, in WMP? But I'm guessing it does.
| >
| > All sounds (except from the line in) work just fine - video files, wma
| > files, mp3 files and computer sounds.
|
| I see. JUST using the Line In is the problem. Weird...
|
| >>> the line in on the motherboard
| >>> is OK, but the computer just doesn't want to "hear it".
| >>>
| >>> Any other suggestions?
| >>
| >> How do you know for a fact that the Line Input on the motherboard's
sound
| >> controller is working ok? See, if I recall, you haven't been able to
| >> get
| >> any sound on your computer while using its Line Inputs.
| >
| > See above.
|
| OK. Got it. I don't know what else to suggest (I assume you've Googled
for
| this specific problem a bit and found nothing that seems relevant).
|
| And I read that you also checked Device Manager and found nothing amiss
| there (from your later post)
|
| Well, maybe someone else has some ideas. Of course, if you can't get it
| resolved, you could always consider adding a sound card and going that
| route, but that seems like it should be a last resort.
|
| Oh, one more thing - I assume you've played with the Line Input Volume
| control in real time (while the tape is playing), and nothing happens
there
| either.

Yup!

Maybe I'll try Googling again with different parameters.

Thank you so much for all your effort here.

Lorraine
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

|
|
|
| >>
| >>
| >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
| >>>
| >>>
| >>> | >>>> Thanks Bill. I did that, and got the shortcut in the menu, but my
tape
| >>>> deck still isn't being "heard".
| >>>>
| >>>> Lorraine
| >>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
| >>>>
| >>>> | >>>>> I don't know how much help this will be, but I believe the sound
| >>>>> recorder
| >>>>> file is located here: \windows\system32\sndrec32.exe. You could
| >>>>> create
| >>>>> a shortcut to it there, and then move the shortcut into the
| >>>>> Accessories
| >>>>> Menu, and perhaps get Sound Recorder back again that way (assuming
| >>>>> the sndrec32.exe file is still on your HD, which I bet it is).
| >>>>>
| >>>>> Lorraine W wrote:
| >>>>>> I'm trying to transfer cassette tape files to my computer so I can
| >>>>>> re-record to CDs.
| >>>>>>
| >>>>>> I'm running XP Pro SP2 (OEM), and have built in 7.1 channel HD
audio
| >>>>>> built
| >>>>>> into the ASUS motherboard (custom built computer). When I go to
| >>>>>> start
| >>>>>> all
| >>>>>> programs> accessories> entertainment, the only thing listed is
| >>>>>> Windows
| >>>>>> Media
| >>>>>> Player. There is no sound recorder as there was on my old
computer.
| >>>>>>
| >>>>>> I tried to install it by clicking on "Add/remove Windows
Components",
| >>>>>> but
| >>>>>> there was no "Entertainment Category". It didn't matter whether I
| >>>>>> did
| >>>>>> this
| >>>>>> from the control panel or from the Windows install screen from the
| >>>>>> OEM
| >>>>>> disc.
| >>>>>> I tried reinstalling the "Accessories and Utilities" but that
didn't
| >>>>>> help -
| >>>>>> still no sound recorder.
| >>>>>>
| >>>>>> I also checked the OEM disc from my old computer (which my hubby
| >>>>>> has) and it
| >>>>>> didn't have the "entertainment" category either, but the sound
| >>>>>> recorder
| >>>>>> is shown in the all programs> accessories> entertainment category.
| >>>>>> I'm pretty sure it was always there, meaning I didn't install it
| >>>>>> later.
| >>>>>>
| >>>>>> I checked the line in on the back of the computer by creating a
loop
| >>>>>> and it is active and working properly.
| >>>>>>
| >>>>>> I'm wondering if this could be a problem arising from a Windows
| >>>>>> Update?
| >>>>>> I tried my old computer and it now doesn't recognize the line in or
| >>>>>> the
| >>>>>> tape deck. It was fine when I first did this, but I only got a few
| >>>>>> of
| >>>>>> my tapes transferred. Not sure when it stopped working though.
| >>>>>>
| >>>>>> Can anyone please help me to fix this?
| >>>>>>
| >>>>>> Lorraine
| >>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
|
|

Bill in Co. · Nov 9, 2008

Lorraine said:
No the wave forms were created by playing the test sound file from the
Realtek Audio Manager.

Ooops, completely missed that one (duh to me). Well, that makes more sense.

The drop down box is in Roxio "LP and Tape Assistant" under Audio. (I
wish
I'd stuck with EZCD - much more user friendly)

And I like the simpler, and more basic, EZCD, which is precisely why I did
not upgrade to the newer albatrosses. And I have other apps for DVD work.
For example, I stuck with Nero 6. I don't want or need that newer stuff
they've added in the later editions. "Less is More". :-)

Just as an outside hunch, have you tried any other audio apps to see if they
work with Line Input? (and I don't just mean the test above). (or maybe
you said that already, and I forgot. I'm gettin old here.

What I meant by didn't work before I installed Roxio is that I couldn't
hear
any sound coming from the tape deck while being played through the line in
on the computer. That's the whole problem in a nutshell. Man, I
transferred over 150 LP's and the first few tapes with no problem. It was
also nice to just play some of my old tapes and listen through the
computer
speakers. Now I can't even to that. GRRR!!!

That is bad (if I had that problem, I'd be waaaay pissed, and I'd be
aggressively working on it like you, too)

That was on a different computer (the old one with the Intel motherboard).
This one has an ASUS.

OK, I'm getting some stuff confused here again. (gettin a bit too old, I
guess)

And also maybe you've considered that later suggestion I mentioned about
possibly un- and re-installing the Realtek codecs (after first saving a
system restore point).

Yup!

Maybe I'll try Googling again with different parameters.

Well, maybe enter keywords like Realtek and "Line-In", to somewhat limit the
search.

Thank you so much for all your effort here.

Lorraine

Wish I coulda been of more help. Good luck in your quest., Lorraine.

Lorraine W · Nov 9, 2008

| Lorraine W wrote:
| > | >> Lorraine W wrote:
| >>> Thanks for all your input and work on this Bill. My replies and
| >>> comments
| >>> follow each of yours below.
| >>>
| >>> | >>>> Lorraine W wrote:
| >>>>> Thanks for the input Bill & Philo, but before I didn't need ANYTHING
| >>>>> to
| >>>>> be
| >>>>> able to play the tapes through the computer just using an RCA to
3.5MM
| >>>>> Stereo Mini (Y cable).
| >>>>
| >>>> Right - you don't need Sound Recorder for that. (but the fact that
it
| >>>> was missing from Accessories is also somewhat puzzling, but may be
just
| >>>> coincidental)
| >>>
| >>> The sound recorder works (even though missing from the programs menu)
as
| >>> it recorded the audio test I did by creating a loop following these
| >>> instructions rec'd from the tech where the computer was manufactured.:
| >>> --------------------------------
| >>> "To Test Sound Card Line-In Jack Using Audio Loopback (RealTek):
| >>>
| >>> This technique will cause the computer to record signal emitted from
the
| >>> speaker output.
| >>>
| >>> 1. Use a double-ended mini-DIN 8mm headphone cable.
| >>> 2. Connect one end of the cable to the speaker output jack (lime)
| >>> 3. Connect the other end of the cable to the line-in jack (blue)
| >>> 4. Go to the Control Panel and start the Sound and Audio Devices
applet.
| >>> 5. In the Device Volume section, click on "Advanced"
| >>> 6. Go to the Options menu, then Properties menu item
| >>> 7. Choose "Realtek HD Audio Input" from the Mixer device list
| >>> 8. Place a checkmark in the Recording Control, CD Volume, Line Volume,
| >>> and Mic Volume items
| >>> 9. Click Ok
| >>> 10. In the Recording Control, ensure the Recording volume is high, and
| >>> that all controls are UNmuted
| >>> 11. Go to Start>All Programs>Accessories>Entertainment>Sound Recorder
| >>> (or enter %systemroot%\system32\sndrec32.exe in Start>Run box)
| >>> 12. Open the RealTek Audio I/O Control (double-click on the brown
| >>> speaker icon in the task tray next to the clock, or go to the RealTek
HD
| >>> Sound Effect Manager in the Control Panel)
| >>> 13. Click on the Audio I/O tab and ensure that the Line-In (blue) and
| >>> Speaker Out (green) indicators are lit up. If they are not, you may
| >>> have a cable problem.
| >>> 14. Go to the 3D Audio Demo tab
| >>> 15. Click on the play button at the lower right
| >>> 16. In the Sound Recorder tool started in step 11, click on the record
| >>> button (red dot)
| >>> 17. If you see a stream of waveforms, your line-in jack are working
| >>> correctly and receiving signal from output. If not, there may be a
| >>> driver issue or the jack is malfunctioning."
| >>> -----------------------------------
| >>> Everything worked as it should, and I saw the wave forms.
| >>
| >> I assume the waveforms created here are due to the positive feedback
| >> between
| >> the output and the input (kinda analogous to putting a mic next to a
| >> speaker
| >> :-)

| >
| > No the wave forms were created by playing the test sound file from the
| > Realtek Audio Manager.
|
| Ooops, completely missed that one (duh to me). Well, that makes more
sense.
|
| >>>>> I have Roxio Media Creator 10 for recording, but when I try to set
| >>>>> that
| >>>>> up for recording, there is nothing in the drop down box for "Capture
| >>>>> from" or "line in".
| >>>>
| >>>> But that might be an issue with Roxio Media Creator and not your
| >>>> computer's
| >>>> sound controller (not sure). (I don't have Roxio Media Creator, but
I
| >>>> do
| >>>> have its predecessor, EZCD (Easy CD Creator), and some other audio| >>>> apps). More below....
| >>>
| >>> I don't think so, as it wouldn't work even before I installed Roxio.
| >>
| >> Where is this "drop down box" you're talking about then? I thought it
| >> was
| >> in Roxio. Oh, you must be talking about in Realtek. It didn't work
| >> before
| >> you installed Roxio? What were you using then at that time to know
| >> that?
| >
| > The drop down box is in Roxio "LP and Tape Assistant" under Audio. (I
| > wish
| > I'd stuck with EZCD - much more user friendly)
|
| And I like the simpler, and more basic, EZCD, which is precisely why I did
| not upgrade to the newer albatrosses. And I have other apps for DVD
work.
| For example, I stuck with Nero 6. I don't want or need that newer stuff
| they've added in the later editions. "Less is More". :-)

Bill in Co. · Nov 9, 2008

You can probably still find a copy for sale, with a bit of persistence, but
it's getting hard to find these old ones. Sometimes some are listed on
amazon.com.

Welcome to the club! But on the other hand, this is a very confusing
scenario.

I'm not sure about that one. I'm fairly computer literate, but I'm not
sure
how I'd go about that. I'm not even sure what "codecs" are or where I
would
find them.

My error, I meant Realtek *drivers*, not codecs. You can discover them in
Device Manager with a bit of persistence, under some of the options.
So it's like uninstalling and reinstalling (or possibly updating) a driver,
if you've ever done that before. Drivers are the low-level software
interface between the hardware and the application software. They allow
programs to communicate with the all of the devices (often having different
drivers).

Well, thanks for all your suggestions and ideas. I guess my next options
are to call both Microsoft and Asus. Maybe they can help sort it out.

Thanks for the good luch wishes too - I think I'll need 'em.

OK!! Maybe you can ask again in here, or in the other group (xp.general),
or perhaps the hardware group (xp.hardware).

Lorraine W · Nov 9, 2008

Hi Bill, I thought it was time to trim this post a bit - it was getting just
a little long.

| >>>
| >>> The drop down box is in Roxio "LP and Tape Assistant" under Audio.
(I
| >>> wish I'd stuck with EZCD - much more user friendly)
|
| You can probably still find a copy for sale, with a bit of persistence,
but
| it's getting hard to find these old ones. Sometimes some are listed on
| amazon.com.

One piece of good luck! I actually still have my discs and getting started
guide (with serial #) for EZCD 7. I thought I had gotten rid of it. Good
thing I checked my CD tower. I haven't really had a chance to use Creator
10 because as I said, life got it the way. I guess if I ever get this
working, I'll find out if it's really as intimidating as it looks.

|
| > I'm not sure about that one. I'm fairly computer literate, but I'm not
| > sure
| > how I'd go about that. I'm not even sure what "codecs" are or where I
| > would
| > find them.
|
| My error, I meant Realtek *drivers*, not codecs. You can discover them in
| Device Manager with a bit of persistence, under some of the options.
| So it's like uninstalling and reinstalling (or possibly updating) a
driver,
| if you've ever done that before. Drivers are the low-level software
| interface between the hardware and the application software. They allow
| programs to communicate with the all of the devices (often having
different
| drivers).

The driver date for the Realtek audio is 2008-05-20 so it's not really that
old. I went looking on the ASUS site for a driver update, but they wanted
the serial # of the motherboard which I don't have and can't get till Monday
when the computer store is open. I may try using the "update driver" link
in the properties box (after creating a restore point of course).

|
| >>> Thank you so much for all your effort here.
| >>>
| >>> Lorraine
| >>
| >> Wish I coulda been of more help. Good luck in your quest., Lorraine.
| >
| > Well, thanks for all your suggestions and ideas. I guess my next
options
| > are to call both Microsoft and Asus. Maybe they can help sort it out.
| >
| > Thanks for the good luch wishes too - I think I'll need 'em.
| >
| > --
| > Lorraine
| > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
|
| OK!! Maybe you can ask again in here, or in the other group
(xp.general),
| or perhaps the hardware group (xp.hardware).
|

I'll try that too. If (make that when) I find the fix, if you're interested
in knowing what it is, let me know. lwilki(nospam)@telus.net

Thanks again for all you help.

Lorraine
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Bill in Co. · Nov 9, 2008

Lorraine said:
Hi Bill, I thought it was time to trim this post a bit - it was getting
just
a little long.

Good point.

One piece of good luck! I actually still have my discs and getting
started
guide (with serial #) for EZCD 7. I thought I had gotten rid of it. Good
thing I checked my CD tower. I haven't really had a chance to use Creator
10 because as I said, life got it the way. I guess if I ever get this
working, I'll find out if it's really as intimidating as it looks.

EZCD Version 7? It probably added some DVD support too. (I'm still using
version 5 (but just for CD work). I have some other apps for DVD stuff).

So, one option here might be to uninstall the newer version of Creator (IF
you don't want and need its extra bells and whistles), and then install that
older EZCD version, and see if that act, in itself, resolves the this issue.
Alternatively, you could just try installing EZCD 7, and leave the other one
there). (But make the appropriate system backups first). More below.

The driver date for the Realtek audio is 2008-05-20 so it's not really
that
old. I went looking on the ASUS site for a driver update, but they wanted
the serial # of the motherboard which I don't have and can't get till
Monday
when the computer store is open. I may try using the "update driver" link
in the properties box (after creating a restore point of course).

OK. But you don't have to really update to a new driver. You could
choose to go through the motions of "updating it" in Device Manager to see
if it reveals anything in the process of its searches.

Or, you could consider uninstalling the current one(s), and then
reinstalling them back again in Device Manager, and see if that act, in
itself, fixes that Line-In problem. (again, having first made backups, and
System Restore should be up to the task for covering the bases on this one,
I expect). But I haven't tried this int this specific case. And you'd
have to be a bit careful making sure the driver file(s) themselves don't get
deleted from the HD when you uninstall them temporaily, but presumably they
won't)

I'll try that too. If (make that when) I find the fix, if you're
interested
in knowing what it is, let me know. lwilki(nospam)@telus.net

Thanks again for all you help.

Lorraine
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

If you find the solution, you might post it here as a followup, in case it
helps anyone else too.

Bill in Co. · Nov 9, 2008

Addended again (sorry).

This might be the simplest approach yet. Just try uninstalling, then
preferably rebooting, and then reinstalling Media Creator 10, and see if
that resolves that Line-In problem, in and of itself. :-)

Bill

Lorraine W · Nov 10, 2008

Will do soon. As per your suggestion, I'm now posting on the hardware
group.

Lorraine
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
| Addended again (sorry).
|
| This might be the simplest approach yet. Just try uninstalling, then
| preferably rebooting, and then reinstalling Media Creator 10, and see if
| that resolves that Line-In problem, in and of itself. :-)

|
| Bill
|
|