What is the pysical layout are they on different switches? Are they on
different subnets?
:
C:\WTSRV\Profiles\ADMINI~1>net view \\meteornt2
System error 51 has occurred.
The remote computer is not available.
There is such an error in Win2000/XP for DNS names
of exactly 16 characters (doesn't apply here) but that
can be fixed by SERVICE PACKS.
But this does bring up the question of what service
pack you have deployed? Since you are on the
Internet it is essential that you apply (practically)
ever service pack and hot fix.
SP6 - I will do any hot fixes I can find.
You might also have disable NetBIOS to cause this
error but I doubt you would do that (and so seldom
mention this.)
I do not think I did - I see it bound to the Wins Client under the adaptor
bindings. Is there another place to see it?
C:\WTSRV\Profiles\ADMINI~1>net view \\10.0.1.6
System error 53 has occurred.
The network path was not found.
That looks like the Server service is NOT running.
And this KB seems to agree:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;259878
This would not be odd if you turned it off (it's own
by default) or if the W2K (meteornt2) is running a
firewall which prevents the Server service ports
from being available to clients.
You can check the first easily by typing at the CMD
prompt:
Net Start
It is running - see output.
C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>net start
These Windows 2000 services are started:
Alerter
Automatic Updates
COM+ Event System
Computer Browser
DHCP Client
DHCP Server
Distributed File System
Distributed Link Tracking Client
Distributed Transaction Coordinator
DNS Client
Event Log
File Server for Macintosh
IPSEC Policy Agent
License Logging Service
Logical Disk Manager
McAfee Framework Service
Messenger
Network Associates McShield
Network Associates Task Manager
Network Connections
NT LM Security Support Provider
Plug and Play
Print Server for Macintosh
Print Spooler
Protected Storage
Remote Access Connection Manager
Remote Procedure Call (RPC)
Remote Registry Service
Removable Storage
RunAs Service
Security Accounts Manager
Server
System Event Notification
Task Scheduler
TCP/IP NetBIOS Helper Service
Telephony
Terminal Services
UltraBac Management Service
UltraBac Scheduler
Windows Internet Name Service (WINS)
Windows Management Instrumentation
Windows Management Instrumentation Driver Extensions
Workstation
The command completed successfully.
(on meteornt2) and looking for "Server" (simply
that) in the lower part or by checking in your Services
console.
You might also type "Net Share" and prove to yourself
that you have SOMETHING shared -- machines do not
appear in browsers unless at least one non-hidden share
is offered.
I do see my shares listed when I run this command.
Name resolution is not a problem for you apparently
since you pings work fine by Name.
--
Herb Martin
OK - slight change:
The server I was on was old,and ready to be upgraded (to W2k). So we
installed a new server Everything is good with the XP clients now but.
Another older Citrix server cannot connect to the new NT server. The
problems seem to be the same as the issues from xpclient to winnt4.
So below are the test results you had suggested but from Citrix
(apprisent)
and W2K (meteornt2).
Reports from Citrix Server
Windows NT IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . : apprisent.mtr2.com
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . : 216.24.175.3
216.24.175.2
Node Type . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
NetBIOS Scope ID. . . . . . : 1688
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . : Yes
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . : No
NetBIOS Resolution Uses DNS : No
Ethernet adapter El90x2:
Description . . . . . . . . : 3Com EtherLink PCI
Physical Address. . . . . . : 00-10-4B-C8-1E-0E
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 10.0.1.8
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . : 10.0.0.1
Primary WINS Server . . . . : 10.0.1.6
Secondary WINS Server . . . : 10.0.1.150
C:\WTSRV\Profiles\ADMINI~1>ping meteornt2
Pinging meteornt2 [10.0.1.6] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 10.0.1.6: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=128
Reply from 10.0.1.6: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=128
Reply from 10.0.1.6: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=128
Reply from 10.0.1.6: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=128
C:\WTSRV\Profiles\ADMINI~1>ping 10.0.1.6
Pinging 10.0.1.6 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 10.0.1.6: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=128
Reply from 10.0.1.6: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=128
Reply from 10.0.1.6: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=128
Reply from 10.0.1.6: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=128
C:\WTSRV\Profiles\ADMINI~1>net view \\meteornt2
System error 51 has occurred.
The remote computer is not available.
C:\WTSRV\Profiles\ADMINI~1>net view \\10.0.1.6
System error 53 has occurred.
The network path was not found.
Meteornt2
C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>ipconfig /all
Windows 2000 IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : meteornt2
Primary DNS Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Netelligent 10/100TX PCI
Embedded UT
P/AUI Controller
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-50-8B-55-2D-02
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.0.1.6
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 10.0.0.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 216.24.175.3
216.24.175.2
Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 10.0.1.6
C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>ping apprisent
Pinging apprisent [10.0.1.8] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 10.0.1.8: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=128
Reply from 10.0.1.8: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=128
Reply from 10.0.1.8: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=128
Reply from 10.0.1.8: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=128
Ping statistics for 10.0.1.8:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms
C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>ping 10.0.1.8
Pinging 10.0.1.8 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 10.0.1.8: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=128
Reply from 10.0.1.8: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=128
Reply from 10.0.1.8: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=128
Reply from 10.0.1.8: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=128
Ping statistics for 10.0.1.8:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms
C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>net view \\apprisent
System error 53 has occurred.
The network path was not found.
C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>net view \\10.0.1.8
System error 53 has occurred.
The network path was not found.
Sorry about the change in direction.
Chris
:
If you can tell me how to capture from the dos prompt I will give
it a
go.
We will work with what is below, assuming you
made no significant typos (worst would be an
assumption about the subnet Mask where it read
on way and you unconsciously typed what you
expect -- I have done it and it is not that uncommon.)
But, for copying (if we or you need it in the future)
there are two ways:
1) Alt-space for the system menu (or click on the
left title bar box to get it.) Edit is down the
menu a bit (E), Mark and Copy but this is the
hard way even though it always works with
not setup.
2) Use that same system menu to bring up Properties,
and set the Options: Set QuickEdit mode and
likely Insert. While you are at it set your
scrollback screen buffer to >1000 lines on layout
and your colors to something decent in Colors,
e.g., bright yellow text on dark blue is most readable
for most people -- and it reminds you that you have
setup the command prompt.
Best is to perform actions #2 on the SHORTCUT or
save the settings for the "Shortcut that started this"
window. Nice thing about #1 is you can do it on
someone else's machine without prep.
XP Client
C:\Documents and Settings\meteor>ipconfig /all
Windows IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : marketlap6138
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : 3Com 3C920 Integrated
Fast
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.0.1.30
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 10.0.0.1
C:\Documents and Settings\meteor>
ip address: 10.0.1.6
Subnet Mask 255.255.0.0
Gateway 10.0.0.1
primary wins 10.0.1.11
secondary Wins 10.0.1.8
I don't see you DNS server settings -- whether
they are set to Internal DNS servers (if you have
them) or to external -- note it is always wrong
to mix the two settings on a single client...
The node type on the XP client implies you have
a WINS server, but it doesn't show the address(es).
The WINS server addresses on the other machine,
show TWO WINS servers so we must wonder if
all of the machines are set as clients AND if these
two WINS servers are REPLICATING.
This is my current guess (not replicating and/or
not all are set to the same two or set at all) since
you seem to have a Name resolution error, BUT
if you truly only have one subnet the BROADCAST
should eventually take over and resolve the server
names.
Ok, we really need the exact symptoms from the
same machines. (and you might as well cut and
paste the settings while you are at it since that
eliminates mistyping and the omission of important
info.)
Perform these tests as well (and report results):
ping servername
ping IP.adress.Of.Server
e.g.,: ping 10.0.1.6
net view \\Servername
net view \\IP.adress.Of.Server
e.g.,: net view \\10.0.1.6
You might also try nslookup IF you are using an
internal DNS server:
nslookup ServerName
(you may get a bogus DNS server error immediately
after the command (first first lines) but down below
you will get the (good) results or the real error.
That early error is an NSLookup artifact. Ignore it
(or just report the whole thing by pasting so we can
show you where the important stuff is.)
--
Herb Martin
:
But are the servers (anything offering shares) all listed?
Yes there are servers and workstations with shares that can be
connected
to
from here (winnt4 server network neighborhood)
Ok, well are there any with shares that are missing...
(No server shows up in browsing unless at least one
non-hidden share is made available...)
There are no DC's All computers are in a single workgroup.
All pc's are in the same subnet.
All machines are wins clients, the WinNT 4 had an old wins
server
listed
as
2nd, I updated that to the current ones. This did not fix the
problem
WINS is irrelevant in a single subnet network unless
reducing broadcasts is extremely important. (Most
small networks it doesn't matter much.)
I can ping in both directions using the ip address.
How about name? If not we are experiencing at least
some kind of Name Resolution problem.
This may be a lead - I can ping by name from client to server.
I
cannot
ping
by name from the WinNT4 server to the clients. Ping returns
"bad
ip
address
clientname"
Ok, we have an IP range or subnet mask problem
probably (ok it might be routing too but unlikely).
Sounds like the machines (while on the same physical
segment) have IP addresses from different (sub)networks.
Check all your IP addresses and subnet masks. Make
sure no machine is set to automatic unless you have
DHCP and then make sure it is getting an address.
Post here you IPCONFIG from a CLIENT and a SERVER
which have the problem when talking to each other.
Don't edit it -- cut and paste the text directly from the
cmd prompt:
ipconfig /all
