Newsreader other than AOL or Outlook Express

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I set up Outlook Express as my NG reader. It was much nicer than AOL, more
pleasant to read and easier to post to - though it had far more bells and
whistles than I needed. The only trouble is that I quickly got hundreds of Swen
attacks over several days (as others here have reported) and even if Norton
worked OK, it was wearing. I finally canceled an e-mail address I had used for
years and all use of Outlook Express.

So now I'm looking for another NG reader, and, hopefully, I'll be able to munge
my address more successfully. Any suggestions?

Manny
 
I set up Outlook Express as my NG reader. It was much nicer than AOL, more
pleasant to read and easier to post to - though it had far more bells and
whistles than I needed. The only trouble is that I quickly got hundreds of Swen
attacks over several days (as others here have reported) and even if Norton
worked OK, it was wearing. I finally canceled an e-mail address I had used for
years and all use of Outlook Express.

So now I'm looking for another NG reader, and, hopefully, I'll be able to munge
my address more successfully. Any suggestions?
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Free Agent

look on tucows.

Hal
 
mhagen said:
Mozilla (mail and news)
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Good suggestion! IMHO it also does web browsing better than MSIE.

While he's at it, Manny might like to try OpenOffice, Gimp and PDFCreator.
Amazing how much decent software is coming out for Windows these days. All
of the above are probably less vulnerable to viruses than MS products.
 
Manny said:
I set up Outlook Express as my NG reader. It was much nicer than
AOL, more pleasant to read and easier to post to - though it had
far more bells and whistles than I needed. The only trouble is
that I quickly got hundreds of Swen attacks over several days
(as others here have reported) and even if Norton worked OK, it
was wearing. I finally canceled an e-mail address I had used for
years and all use of Outlook Express.

So now I'm looking for another NG reader, and, hopefully, I'll
be able to munge my address more successfully. Any suggestions?

Manny
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http://www.newsreaders.com/win/clients.html

I love Xnews. Though Mozilla for e-mail and news is good too.
 
(e-mail address removed) (Manny) wrote in
I set up Outlook Express as my NG reader. It was much nicer than AOL,
more pleasant to read and easier to post to - though it had far more
bells and whistles than I needed. The only trouble is that I quickly
got hundreds of Swen attacks over several days (as others here have
reported) and even if Norton worked OK, it was wearing. I finally
canceled an e-mail address I had used for years and all use of Outlook
Express.

So now I'm looking for another NG reader, and, hopefully, I'll be able
to munge my address more successfully. Any suggestions?

Manny
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I use Xnews. But it wasn't Outlook Express that caused you to get the
Swens, it was posting with a valid email address. You can set OE to not
open attachments and read in plain text, no html.
 
In Message-ID:<[email protected]> posted on
I set up Outlook Express as my NG reader. It was much nicer than AOL, more
pleasant to read and easier to post to - though it had far more bells and
whistles than I needed. The only trouble is that I quickly got hundreds of Swen
attacks over several days (as others here have reported) and even if Norton
worked OK, it was wearing. I finally canceled an e-mail address I had used for
years and all use of Outlook Express.

So now I'm looking for another NG reader, and, hopefully, I'll be able to munge
my address more successfully. Any suggestions?

Manny
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Sounds like you've got more learning ahead of you than behind you <g>
How about spending that time getting accustomed to a couple really good
applications like Forte Agent and Firetrust Mailwasher Pro.
The swen comes as email addressed to an addy that you allowed to become
public, and munging would have prevented that. Now, after the fact,
Mailwasher Pro will nicely accommodate the flood. And an
email/newsreader client like Agent will allow easy munging of sensitive
information in your future posts.

The applications I mentioned are here:
http://www.forteinc.com/main/homepage.php
http://www.firetrust.com/products/mailwasherpro/
Note* there are free versions of both these products,
but I feel the commercial (paid for) versions to be much better in the
long run, and you do plan on being on the net for a long time, no?

At some point you might even want to purge your system of the IE/OE
bane, that facilitates so much of the misery that draws suffering
visitors to this newsgroup.
It can be a bit technically confusing, so if you want to wait, it's OK.
Just ask for Art when you finally do get ready. <g>
 
So now I'm looking for another NG reader, and, hopefully, I'll be able to munge
my address more successfully. Any suggestions?
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Microplanet Gravity, Free agent, Pegasus, PAN
 
Boomer <[email protected]> squirted these wordjisms deep inside
the bumtube of the newstwat in @authen.yellow.readfreenews.net:
http://www.newsreaders.com/win/clients.html

I love Xnews. Though Mozilla for e-mail and news is good too.
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Them's my choices too (Moz Thunderbird for mail).

Anyone who says there are better ones is a liar and doesn't even deserve to
die, never mind live.

--
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David Qunt
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David said:
Boomer <[email protected]> squirted these wordjisms deep
inside the bumtube of the newstwat in @authen.yellow.readfreenews.net:


Them's my choices too (Moz Thunderbird for mail).

Anyone who says there are better ones is a liar and doesn't even
deserve to die, never mind live.
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XanaNews for News (lovely program, open-source, free of charge, handles
x-faces and works with all flavours of Windows).

http://www.wilsonc.demon.co.uk/delphi.htm

Thunderbird for Mail... developing well, needs more development but
pretty good now. Use it with POPfile to filter spam.

http://popfile.sourceforge.net/

Firebird for a browser... knocks IE into a cocked hat! Still being
developed, but again it's working really well.
 
"Paul Brewer" <[email protected]> squirted these wordjisms deep
inside the bumtube of the newstwat in 99960.news.uni-berlin.de:
XanaNews for News (lovely program, open-source, free of charge, handles
x-faces and works with all flavours of Windows).

http://www.wilsonc.demon.co.uk/delphi.htm

Thunderbird for Mail... developing well, needs more development but
pretty good now. Use it with POPfile to filter spam.

http://popfile.sourceforge.net/

Firebird for a browser... knocks IE into a cocked hat! Still being
developed, but again it's working really well.
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Opera is better than Mozilla products, and anyone who says otherwise
deserves to suffer a minor illness for a few days, before recovering.
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David Qunt
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Opera is better than Mozilla products, and anyone who says otherwise
deserves to suffer a minor illness for a few days, before recovering.
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I feel that way too (except for the wishing ill toward others part),
after trying Phoenix, Firebird, several nightly builds of Moz, and years
of dedicated Netscape use.
I do keep OB1 on here with the local newspaper for a home page.
One thing that irks me about all the Moz derivatives is their insistence
on creating another separate folder on my C:\ root, when all its
contents could just as easily go into the program folder.
 
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One thing that irks me about all the Moz derivatives is their insistence
on creating another separate folder on my C:\ root, when all its
contents could just as easily go into the program folder.
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What I *like* about that separate folder is this...

When I "upgrade" Mozilla, I usually uninstall the older version *and*
delete the old program folder (seems to avoid version and/or dll
conflicts for me after upgrading). Then I install the new version into
a new folder. My old preferences and email are preserved in that
separate folder and restored quite nicely.
 
Bart said:
One thing that irks me about all the Moz derivatives is their
insistence on creating another separate folder on my C:\ root, when
all its contents could just as easily go into the program folder.
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Both Thunderbird and Firebird were installed where I pointed them, in
the Program Files folder of my root drive. Maybe they've changed since
you last tried them out?
 
[snippage]
One thing that irks me about all the Moz derivatives is their insistence
on creating another separate folder on my C:\ root, when all its
contents could just as easily go into the program folder.
Click to expand...

What I *like* about that separate folder is this...

When I "upgrade" Mozilla, I usually uninstall the older version *and*
delete the old program folder (seems to avoid version and/or dll
conflicts for me after upgrading). Then I install the new version into
a new folder. My old preferences and email are preserved in that
separate folder and restored quite nicely.
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Yep. This is very important for those of us who have valuable data in
email "folders". Not only is that data untouched by a uninstall, but
after a upgrade to a newer version (new fresh install) they're still
there.


Art
http://www.epix.net/~artnpeg
 
In Message-ID:<[email protected]> posted on
[snippage]
One thing that irks me about all the Moz derivatives is their insistence
on creating another separate folder on my C:\ root, when all its
contents could just as easily go into the program folder.
Click to expand...

What I *like* about that separate folder is this...

When I "upgrade" Mozilla, I usually uninstall the older version *and*
delete the old program folder (seems to avoid version and/or dll
conflicts for me after upgrading). Then I install the new version into
a new folder. My old preferences and email are preserved in that
separate folder and restored quite nicely.
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Couldn't that folder be a contained as a subdirectory of the program
folder, as many programs do, or even to the common files folder?
Why does it have to write to the root?
Maybe I'm just superstitious, but appz that do that spook me <g>
 
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Both Thunderbird and Firebird were installed where I pointed them, in
the Program Files folder of my root drive. Maybe they've changed since
you last tried them out?
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Did you look to see if there is a folder called "Mozilla" on the root?
It appears after the first time you run the program (like an ini) and is
used to store user data.
 
Bart said:
In Message-ID:<[email protected]> posted on


Did you look to see if there is a folder called "Mozilla" on the root?
It appears after the first time you run the program (like an ini) and
is used to store user data.
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Just looked... no such folder. I didn't have to install either program,
just download and unzip them into the c:\program files\firebird folder
and thunderbird folder I'd created, and ran them from the respective
..exe files in the folders.

Seems to work fine.
 
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