I think Mr Murdoch has shot his bolt on this one I don't think he will get B Sky B or what ever it is called as one after the revelations of the last week could hardly be called a fit and proper person as the NOTW was out of control for so long, I believe he should and his cooperation should be banned from owning any news organization in the UK whether TV or newspapers.
Well, this is supposedly a free country so I doubt that will happen, which is probably a good thing.
Free rein to express views and run businesses within the law, freedom, is our foundation and that's a freedom my father and many generation before his fought for. I don't wholeheartedly agree with that summisation actually, but that's what we're fed and there is a grain of truth in it.
bootneck02 said:
I also suspect that was a large amount of phone tapping by other red tops and their ownership also be in question. The other problem is also the police involvement or lack of it because of the power of NI and the bribes paid to the police and them turning a blind eye. There is a BIG question about the politicians especially after the expenses scandal wether the majority of them should be trusted, as they run the fabric of society how far down is our system of society now corrupt as far as government, big business and we know how corrupt the banks are. And this was once a great Country not any more I fear and I for one once served this Country and was a proud to have done so, now I hang my head in shame to seem my Country stoop so low by its leadership. AND WE STILL HAVE BOYS AND GIRLS DYING FOR OUR FLAG and it is disgracefull
This view by people of a certain age annoys me, it's an age thing, I'm sure. When you were 19 years old, Mr Bootneck, the 63 year old guy would probably have expressed exactly the same point of view against your then generation.
In actual fact newspaper corruption, bribery and downright shameless breaking the law was rife in the forties, fifties, and sixties, more so than it is now. There were times when newspaper hacks interviewed serial killers and paid them money, Christie being a point in case, and then not divulge their whereabouts to the law.
Because of that laws were introduced to stop these practices which the current NOW seems to have fallen foul of.
In that respect the situation today is far far better than it was 40 years ago so far from being ashamed of your country and hanging your head in shame you should be proud that this generation has more mettle, more backbone, more sense of right and wrong than their ancestors from forty or fifty years ago.
As for our young dying in foreign conflicts which most participants have little idea about why they're dying and fighting there, nothing has changed there then. And unless mankind manages to elevate himself beyond primitive, which is doubtful, then in 100, 200, years time tthe situation will probably be the same.
Saddam Hussein was not a nice man. But it wasn't our fight. the oil and political situation however, was worth us getting involved in and seeing British blood shed, according to Tony Blair and his team of spook advisors. And there were no weapons of mass destruction. Our young are still dying in Iraq and Afghanistan for partly political reasons and for the ongoing backlash against 9/11 & 7/7. Oh, and Bali.
If any Western Nation was truly concerned with democracy and helping a foreign country without seeing any economical or political gain then they would go and sort out the situation in Somalia for a start, stop the civil way and piracy. But no, nothing to gain, you see.
When I was younger I worked as a newspaper reporter for almost four years and I witnessed first hand what the NOW have been caught at. I even done that sort of thing myself, I made many phone calls purporting to be a CID sergeant from Streatham police station or wherever, I bluffed my way into buildings and lots of other misdemeanours. People are gullible. They're not so gullible now, incidentally, as they were in 1970.
I sometimes got bored on the night shift at Fleet Street so I'd take out Kellys Directory and a street map and pinpoint residences near a railway line. Then, at 3am, I'd phone people and tell them there had been a rail crash at the bottom of their garden and would they be so kind as to go and have a look and give me an eye witness account? 'You'll have your name in The Daily Mirror tomorrow Sir'.
Why? Cos at 3am I was bored and it always fascinated me how foolish some people are/were.
Being a hard news reporter I think sometimes needs more skill than a CID police detective, mostly because you don't have the same resources as the police do. But it's a rotten business to be in. I love writing but hard news stories are not about writing, they're about gathering information by whatever means possible, fair or foul, then handing them to a sub-editor to actually write.
Which is why I got out and thought I'd rather do something more productive.
So, to sum up, the press situation was worse then than it is now, so do not hang your head in shame, be proud that later generations than ours possess grit and integrity.
Oh, hang on, they also have the X factor and Big Brother type stuff don't they? Hmmm....