newbie: vb.net and .net framework

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Hi,
this is probably a stupid question but here it is:

*whatever* i create with vb.net needs .net framework to run on a machine????
similar to Java?
If yes is there a way around that?

I want to create an application but if every machine that i want to install
it to needs to have .Net .... i think it's a big drawback.

thanx for your comments
 
Hi Steve,
*whatever* i create with vb.net needs .net framework to run on a machine????
similar to Java?
If yes is there a way around that?
Click to expand...

Yes there is a workaround, use Windows Server 2003 there it is already
standard, what it will probably in the rest of the Windows OS in future.

When you want to use an older OS (from NT4 sp6 and from W'98) you need a
kind of servicepack named the NET framework.

I hope this helps?

Cor
 
Thanx Cor,

However it`s not really a workaround with server 2003, you just don't have
to download and install .net separately. It comes with the OS. :)

What i meant to say is :

If i have any windows machine (98, NT, W2K, XP) WITHOUT the .net framework
installed, can i create an executable in VB.NET and *DO SOMETHING to
it(???)* (e.g. attach DLL's etc.) create an installation package similar to
VB6 and install it on the above machines WITHOUT installing .NET in them ? I
think it's a simple question :)

Thanx again
 
Steve,
As Cor suggested, NO. You need to install the Framework.

Remember that VB6 requires the VB6 runtime DLLs to be installed on the
target OS. (which for most OS's they came preinstalled, just as the
framework comes preinstalled on Windows Server 2003.

Hope this helps
Jay
 
HI Steve,

Ken showed you a link where you can get some software that you can tailor on
your application, make from the Net framework more a kind of runtimer, I do
not believe in it, because than you can get when there is another supplier
probably the same problems as always have been with versions of runtimers.

When it is about XP than is told that it will be standard in the next
servicepack so my idea is why doing difficult.

Maybe I would explain something. In past we had completly compiled programs
with the introduction from the PC we got runtimers because the processor
was/is very simple, however can make a lot of cycles, when that was all code
it would have been very huge programs. To overcome that intermidiate
language was created, which is used mostly in PC programlanguages .

The big advantage from Net is that it uses intermidiate language not as a
runtimer but let say something between the program and the OS and handles as
well OS parts too by instance manage the use of memory.

However you can try that package Ken pointed you on, I would never do it.

Cor
 
* "steve said:
this is probably a stupid question but here it is:

*whatever* i create with vb.net needs .net framework to run on a machine????
similar to Java?
Click to expand...

LOL -- Java apps require the Java class library and runtime too.
If yes is there a way around that?
Click to expand...

No.

There are some solutions, but most of them don't make much sense for
me. They are expensive and don't bring any benefit.

<URL:http://www.remotesoft.com/>
-> "Salamander"

<URL:http://www.lesser-software.com/> is working on a tool to compile Win32
applications from .NET source.

Thinstall
<URL:http://thinstall.com/dotnet/>

I would include the .NET Framework in the setup package:

Using Visual Studio .NET 2003 to Redistribute the .NET Framework
<URL:http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en-us/dnnetdep/html/vsredistdeploy1_1.asp>

Plug-In:

<URL:http://groups.google.com/[email protected]>

Bootstrapper:

<URL:http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/downloads/tools/bootstrapper/>

Microsoft Visual Studio .NET 2003 Bootstrapper Plug-In
<URL:http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=627921a0-d9e7-43d6-a293-72f9c370bd19>

<URL:http://workspaces.gotdotnet.com/vsboot/> (old URL)

Download
<URL:http://www.gotdotnet.com/community/...f0a23-f529-4158-8e0a-d187d16f41f1&newsId=1981>

Framework 1.1:

Redistributing the .NET Framework 1.1
<URL:http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en-us/dnnetdep/html/redistdeploy1_1.asp>

..NET Framework 1.1 Deployment Guide
<URL:http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en-us/dnnetdep/html/dotnetframedepguid1_1.asp>

..NET Framework 1.1 Redistributable Prerequisites
<URL:http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en-us/dnnetdep/html/NETFx1Redistreq1_1.asp>

..NET Framework Redistributable Package 1.1 Technical Reference
<URL:http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en-us/dnnetdep/html/dotnetfxref1_1.asp>

Framework 1.0:

..NET Framework Deployment Guide
<URL:http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en-us/dnnetdep/html/dotnetframedepguid.asp>

Using Visual Studio .NET to Redistribute the .NET Framework
<URL:http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en-us/dnnetdep/html/vsredistdeploy.asp>
 
Hi Herfried,

It seems really if you have yourself as well a solution with all those
links, nice collecion by the way.

:-)

Cor
 
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