Newbie-really dumb situation

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I'm new at all this some please don't flame. I'm changing my old
computer tower over to a "Mod" type tower, replete w/lights, clear
windows, etc. I've taken everything out of the old case and have placed
in into the new case, including the power supply. Well, now I don't get
any response from my monitor at all. the video card is installed
correctly. The cable to the actaul monitor is attached properly. Is it
possible that the video board got blown during the swap? No static
issues or anything like that (worked on a hardwood table on a hardwood
floor-no carpets) I'm felling really stupid and am at a total loss..any
suggestions from anyone? Thanks , Jay
 
I'm new at all this some please don't flame. I'm changing my old
computer tower over to a "Mod" type tower, replete w/lights, clear
windows, etc. I've taken everything out of the old case and have placed
in into the new case, including the power supply. Well, now I don't get
any response from my monitor at all. the video card is installed
correctly. The cable to the actaul monitor is attached properly. Is it
possible that the video board got blown during the swap? No static
issues or anything like that (worked on a hardwood table on a hardwood
floor-no carpets) I'm felling really stupid and am at a total loss..any
suggestions from anyone? Thanks , Jay

Do the fans spin ? Do the LEDs light up ?

If you have fans operating, then your power supply is probably
working a bit. Your next test, would be to see if the processor
can run at all. You'd want to make sure the 2x2 ATX12V is connected.
With the power off, remove the sticks of RAM. When you power up
again, the computer should be able to beep the computer case
speaker. You should hear the error code for missing RAM. The
processor has to be working, to make the repetitive beeping
sound.

If you've got no fans at all, something could be shorted.
Or something is not plugged in.

Even an empty motherboard, should allow you to push the front
panel power button, and switch on the PSU for you, causing the PSU
fan to spin.

It is probably not the video card. But you can check that the
video card is seated, and that any Aux power cable needed by the
video card is connected. It is too early to determine that static
electricity got something. But something you do have to watch for,
is plugging in hardware when there is still power inside the computer.
This is one of the reasons I suggest to people, that they unplug
their computer when working inside it. It is not because unplugging
is absolutely necessary, but by unplugging the computer, you are
being really really safe. Being lazy, and not unplugging, means if
you forget to check the power switch is off, you could install something
when there is still some +5VSB present in the system. The RAM slots
can still have power in them, if the +5VSB is running. And that is
one way that people ruin stuff.

Paul
 
I'm new at all this some please don't flame. I'm changing my old
computer tower over to a "Mod" type tower, replete w/lights, clear
windows, etc. I've taken everything out of the old case and have placed
in into the new case, including the power supply. Well, now I don't get
any response from my monitor at all. the video card is installed
correctly. The cable to the actaul monitor is attached properly. Is it
possible that the video board got blown during the swap? No static
issues or anything like that (worked on a hardwood table on a hardwood
floor-no carpets) I'm felling really stupid and am at a total loss..any
suggestions from anyone? Thanks , Jay

Jay - no flames. Several things need to happen before you will get video
output to a computer monitor. I will simplify this process as much as
possible, below.

1) Push power button. If all hooked up correctly, power up request is
passed through mainboard to power supply, and power supply turns on. At
this point, you will see LED lights come on, and fans start to spin. Do you
see LED lights come on and fans spin?

2) Power supply will ramp up DC voltages (doesn't take long, usually much
less than a second) and then send a power_OK signal to mainboard. There is
no symptom that this is happening, but you'll never get to the next step
without it.

3) When power_OK is passed from power supply through mainboard to CPU, the
CPU will access the POST program stored in the mainboard BIOS. Some VERY
BASIC checks will be made by the CPU on your hardware. During this step,
you should get some kind of POST beep. A normal POST beep would be one
short beep, to confirm that all hardware checked out ok during POST (power
on self test). If there is a problem with hardware, you will get a long
beep, or a series of long and/or short beeps, to indicate what POST seems to
think is wrong with your hardware. Do you get a POST beep or beeps?

4) After most of POST is completed OK, a video card will be initialized,
according to settings stored in CMOS (which can be changed in BIOS setup
menus). AT THIS POINT, if all is hooked up correctly, your connected
monitor should wake up and you should start seeing certain information
displayed, such as BIOS version, detected hardware, memory testing, etc.

5) After POST is completed, your CPU will try to find an operating system
to boot. It will search for boot devices based on settings stored in CMOS,
which can be changed in the BIOS setup menus. Typically, this means that it
will search an optical drive and a hard drive, looking for an operating
system such as windows to start. It might also search a network, or even
the floppy drive. Whatever is stored in CMOS is what it will search.

You're stuck in step 1, 2 or 3. As you have swapped cases, the most likely
cause of your problem is a bad connection somewhere. Review your mainboard
manual and check ALL connections on the mainboard. Then double-check them.
If everything still looks fine, disconnect -everything- from the motherboard
and start over. (well, leave the CPU and cpu fan plugged in). It's
possible something just isn't seated right. So remove all expansion cards,
including video card, from the mainboard as well. Another easy to miss step
is, many newish video cards require their own power connection from the
power supply.

Another possibility is that your new case is drawing more power than your
old case did, and your power supply simply can't handle the extra current
draw on one or more voltage rails. But this is somewhat unlikely. It's
more likely that something is loose, or just not properly connected. Good
luck, -Dave
 
Nice post Dave! I saved that one as a short how to for any friends that have
computer problems. I tend to get wordy and too techie but that post was easy
and to the point.

John O.
 
John O. said:
Nice post Dave! I saved that one as a short how to for any friends that
have computer problems. I tend to get wordy and too techie but that post
was easy and to the point.

John O.

Hey, glad to help. :) No video on computer monitor is probably the most
frequent complaint I see in this ng. People need to realize that there are
several things that need to happen in a computer system boot
sequence -before- the user should expect to see video on the monitor. That
way, they aren't trying to troubleshoot a monitor or video card, when it's
somewhat unlikely (but not impossible) that one of those components would be
bad. -Dave
 
Hi all, first of all, thanx for all the suugestions! It was indeed a
loose connection from the p/s...next time I'll be more careful to check
this before I panic and think something's blown! Again, thanx for all
the friendly suggestions- there are certainly a lot of decent people on
this group!
All the best! Jay
 
Hi all, first of all, thanx for all the suugestions! It was indeed a
loose connection from the p/s...next time I'll be more careful to check
this before I panic and think something's blown! Again, thanx for all
the friendly suggestions- there are certainly a lot of decent people on
this group!
All the best! Jay

Glad you got it working! -Dave
 
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