Newbie - Help with VB.Net Install!

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I am a single user with XP Home Ed and have installed VB.Net onto PC. The
installation appears to have been OK but I have a query. One of the new menu
items is:

Microsoft .Net Framework SDK v1.1 - which has the sub menu items:

Documentation
Overview
Samples and QuickStart Tutorials
Tools

Now going into Samples and QuickStart Tutorials reults in a web page that
has an article about downloading & installing MSDE but on reading through
this it appears that MSDE needs IIS & ASP which does not come with XP Home
Ed., so my question is can .Net Framework SDK be used on XP Home Ed
 
Hector said:
I am a single user with XP Home Ed and have installed VB.Net onto PC. The
installation appears to have been OK but I have a query. One of the new
menu
items is:

Microsoft .Net Framework SDK v1.1 - which has the sub menu items:

Documentation
Overview
Samples and QuickStart Tutorials
Tools

Now going into Samples and QuickStart Tutorials reults in a web page that
has an article about downloading & installing MSDE but on reading through
this it appears that MSDE needs IIS & ASP which does not come with XP Home
Ed., so my question is can .Net Framework SDK be used on XP Home Ed
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Yes, you can do Windows project types, but not any web project types. To do
the web types you have to have a web server that supports ASP.NET. The most
commonly used server is IIS, but you may be able to find a remote server on
the internet to support your web development.
MSDE is the desktop version of Microsoft SQL Server 2000. Installing and
using MSDE with your VB.NET has nothing to do with IIS< ASP or ASP.NET.
 
Thanks Peter for your reply, however, I still have a problem, perhaps you
could help a bit more. If I select the Samples and QuickStart Tutorials the
screen I get is the "Microsoft .NET Framework SDK QuickStarts, Tutorials and
Samples" sheet which has asection to "Step 1: Download and Install the
Microsoft SQL Server 2000 Desktop Engine (MSDE)" which I can do OK, but this
section ends with "After rebooting, return to this page to complete the
QuickStart tutorials installation." and here lies my confusion.

On using the link at the end of the paragraph under "Step 2: Set up the
QuickStarts" I have a page "Microsoft .NET Framework SDK QuickStart
Configuration Details" which "provides a detailed listing of the
configuration steps performed by the .NET Framework QuickStart configuration
program." and amongst this list is a section "Installing IIS and ASP.NET".

So what exactly do I do, just select Step 2 (& the configuration is done by
the link), or follow the instructions in the configuration details link and
forget about anything relating to IIS and ASP.NET, or omit Step 2 completely?

Sorry to be so long winded.

Hector
 
Hector said:
Thanks Peter for your reply, however, I still have a problem, perhaps you
could help a bit more. If I select the Samples and QuickStart Tutorials
the
screen I get is the "Microsoft .NET Framework SDK QuickStarts, Tutorials
and
Samples" sheet which has asection to "Step 1: Download and Install the
Microsoft SQL Server 2000 Desktop Engine (MSDE)" which I can do OK, but
this
section ends with "After rebooting, return to this page to complete the
QuickStart tutorials installation." and here lies my confusion.

On using the link at the end of the paragraph under "Step 2: Set up the
QuickStarts" I have a page "Microsoft .NET Framework SDK QuickStart
Configuration Details" which "provides a detailed listing of the
configuration steps performed by the .NET Framework QuickStart
configuration
program." and amongst this list is a section "Installing IIS and ASP.NET".

So what exactly do I do, just select Step 2 (& the configuration is done
by
the link), or follow the instructions in the configuration details link
and
forget about anything relating to IIS and ASP.NET, or omit Step 2
completely?

Sorry to be so long winded.

Hector
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Can you provide a link to the instructions you're trying to follow? It would
help to see the context.
 
Hi Peter,

The page that "Microsoft .NET Framework SDK QuickStarts, Tutorials" runs
from is

C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio .NET
2003\SDK\v1.1\Samples\StartSamples.htm

The "Configuration Details" page runs from:

C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio .NET
2003\SDK\v1.1\Samples\Setup\html\ConfigDetails.htm

Hope this is what you need.

Hector
 
Hector said:
Hi Peter,

The page that "Microsoft .NET Framework SDK QuickStarts, Tutorials" runs
from is

C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio .NET
2003\SDK\v1.1\Samples\StartSamples.htm

The "Configuration Details" page runs from:

C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio .NET
2003\SDK\v1.1\Samples\Setup\html\ConfigDetails.htm

Hope this is what you need.

Hector
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Do you have an icon in your systray that indicates a running instance of
MSDE? The icon looks like a PC case and should have a green triangle on it.
When you hover your mouse cursor over it, you should see your instance name,
like \\ComputerName\InstanceName. You can run the scripts to create
databases if your MSDE instance is functional, however the remaining steps
which refer to IIS and/or ASP.NET will not be possible for you until/unless
you upgrade your OS to Win XP Pro.
 
Peter,
I do not have an icon for MSDE. When I try to follow the link to download
and install the MSDE the download works but the installation fails.

Applying the instructions on the MSDN page "Using MSDE 2000 with the .NET
Framework SDK QuickStart Tutorials"
I get to Step 2 when I get the following scenario.

I have opened an MS-DOS command prompt and changed to the C:\MSDERelA
directory,
and run the following command:

Setup.exe /qb+ INSTANCENAME=NetSDK DISABLENETWORKPROTOCOLS=1 SAPWD=<MY SA
PASSWORD>

after a couple of screens I get the following:

MessageBox Title: Microsoft SQL Server Desktop Engine
Message: The instance name specified is invalid.
OK Button

Folowed by another
MessageBox Title: Microsoft SQL Server Desktop Engine
Message: Microsoft SQL Server Desktop Engine Setup failed.
OK Button

Would appreciate more help.

Hector
 
Hector said:
Peter,
I do not have an icon for MSDE. When I try to follow the link to download
and install the MSDE the download works but the installation fails.

Applying the instructions on the MSDN page "Using MSDE 2000 with the .NET
Framework SDK QuickStart Tutorials"
I get to Step 2 when I get the following scenario.

I have opened an MS-DOS command prompt and changed to the C:\MSDERelA
directory,
and run the following command:

Setup.exe /qb+ INSTANCENAME=NetSDK DISABLENETWORKPROTOCOLS=1 SAPWD=<MY SA
PASSWORD>

after a couple of screens I get the following:

MessageBox Title: Microsoft SQL Server Desktop Engine
Message: The instance name specified is invalid.
OK Button

Folowed by another
MessageBox Title: Microsoft SQL Server Desktop Engine
Message: Microsoft SQL Server Desktop Engine Setup failed.
OK Button

Would appreciate more help.

Hector
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At this point, I can only offer you one possibility.
Try the setup command the way we do it for our classrooms.

This is an excerpt from our standard instructions:
"
5. To execute SETUP.EXE correctly, you must supply an instance name and a
system administrator password as part of the command: i.e. the command must
be (note the implication that you must be logged on as a system
administrator to install):



SETUP.EXE INSTANCENAME="NetSDK" SAPWD="yourSAPassword"



where yourSAPassword is your actual system administrator password. This
password is needed only to install MDSE, not to use it. Access to MSDE is
controlled by normal "NT Security" which should allow users access based on
network logon and password. It is very important the the INSTANCENAME
parameter be NetSDK, as this name will enable you to generate the sample
databases automatically instead of having to run SQL scripts from the
command line.



6. Once installation is complete, you must reboot the PC before you will see
MSDE. After the reboot, you should see the MSDE icon in SysTray."



If you continue to encounter difficulties, I suggest you consider posting
in:



microsoft.public.sqlserver.msde
 
Peter,
Thanks for your help, tried your suggestion but the installation still fails
with the same message boxes.
I will try posting in the sqlserver.msde.
Once again many thanks.

Hector
 
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