New Virus turn.

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Adam A. Wanderer

Whoever puts out these virus puts more time and energy into it than first
thought, or "second thought". A new variation has just come out, "Black
Solid 2". More important than the variation itself is the extent of which
the writers go to infect unsuspecting bystanders and the "mind set" of virus
writers. They are not going to stop until forced to stop, they will become
more and more sophisticated, and they enjoy what they are doing. Nothing
can continue "as is". Either comprehensive technical solutions are found,
or the internet in general becomes so "poisoned" that it can't function any
longer, with all that implies economically. Does anyone have any thoughts
to add on this?
 
Whoever puts out these virus puts more time and energy into it than first
thought, or "second thought". A new variation has just come out, "Black
Solid 2". More important than the variation itself is the extent of which
the writers go to infect unsuspecting bystanders and the "mind set" of virus
writers. They are not going to stop until forced to stop, they will become
more and more sophisticated, and they enjoy what they are doing. Nothing
can continue "as is". Either comprehensive technical solutions are found,
or the internet in general becomes so "poisoned" that it can't function any
longer, with all that implies economically. Does anyone have any thoughts
to add on this?

Sure, spam has already poisoned the internet. Replace virus writers,
and viruses with spammers and spam, and you have an even larger
problem. Everything you've written applies to them just as much, if
not more so, than virus writers/spreaders.

tim
 
Adam A. Wanderer said:
Whoever puts out these virus puts more time and energy into it than first
thought, or "second thought". A new variation has just come out, "Black
Solid 2". More important than the variation itself is the extent of which
the writers go to infect unsuspecting bystanders and the "mind set" of virus
writers. They are not going to stop until forced to stop, they will become
more and more sophisticated, and they enjoy what they are doing. Nothing
can continue "as is". Either comprehensive technical solutions are found,
or the internet in general becomes so "poisoned" that it can't function any
longer, with all that implies economically. Does anyone have any thoughts
to add on this?

Maybe I'm a bit paranoid, but I think that the powers that be think that too
much freedom is not a good thing and will use crises like these to put in
more controls on everyone. 'Analysis' will conclude that these virus
writers are able to spread their trash because they have too much anonymity.
Controllers will push for changes to internet structure that allow 'law
enforcement' to have trace-ability for any data that flows over the
internet. The internet will essentially be deemed government property.
 
Adam A. Wanderer said:
Whoever puts out these virus puts more time and energy into it than first
thought, or "second thought".

Some haven't had an original thought in their
heads since they first figured out that crying
brought food ~ or at least mother. They only
build on what was done before them like
a construction set.
A new variation has just come out, "Black
Solid 2".

Never heard of it (sounds like a video game).
More important than the variation itself is the extent of which
the writers go to infect unsuspecting bystanders and the "mind set" of virus
writers. They are not going to stop until forced to stop, they will become
more and more sophisticated, and they enjoy what they are doing. Nothing
can continue "as is". Either comprehensive technical solutions are found,
or the internet in general becomes so "poisoned" that it can't function any
longer, with all that implies economically. Does anyone have any thoughts
to add on this?

Most of the tools with which to combat this are readily available.
If a person unleashes a creation that took weeks to write and
soon discovers that nobody is talking about it - it never became
prevalent enough to rise above the radar noise - it didn't even
cause a minor inconvenience to more than a few people, and
they just deleted it when when they discovered it, what would
be the point of spending another week or so writing another
one to unleash to the same effect.

The main problem is that the available toolset isn't being
implemented by the majority of users. The creations that
take minutes to make, make a big splash and get media
attention ~ the vandal becomes famous ~ an overnight
sensation ~ has gained the respect of his peers (such as
they are).

...and only if he does (or has done) something *else* really
stupid, will he ever get caught.
 
Adam Russell said:
Maybe I'm a bit paranoid, but I think that the powers that be think that too
much freedom is not a good thing and will use crises like these to put in
more controls on everyone. 'Analysis' will conclude that these virus
writers are able to spread their trash because they have too much anonymity.

Not true really, but there is a lot to be said for authentication
protocols.
Controllers will push for changes to internet structure that allow 'law
enforcement' to have trace-ability for any data that flows over the
internet. The internet will essentially be deemed government property.

Lets hope not, the problem will still be there I think. Even with
traceability, a worm can be unleashed from a compromised
machine. The traceability of the seeding goes to the compromised
machine, but the logs have by then been made useless by the same
program that did the seeding. Many of the more savvy admins will
have the log file echoed to another (hopefully) uncompromised
machine so the the trace can be run, but the chances of that are
slim to none.
 
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