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I am looking to get away from Intel and try the AMD brand. I am having some
trouble comparing the two... Mainly the AMD rated GHZ is so much lower. I am
guessing that the AMD performs so much better that an equivalent Intel would
need to have a higher rating? Anyway, I am looking into the 200 - 250 price
range. There seems to be so many to choose from.... I guess if I could
determine how to "compare" it to the Intel, that would help me decide.
Thanks and sorry for such a newbie question.
 
Robbie said:
I am looking to get away from Intel and try the AMD brand. I am having some
trouble comparing the two... Mainly the AMD rated GHZ is so much lower. I
am
guessing that the AMD performs so much better that an equivalent Intel
would
need to have a higher rating? Anyway, I am looking into the 200 - 250
price
range. There seems to be so many to choose from.... I guess if I could
determine how to "compare" it to the Intel, that would help me decide.
Thanks and sorry for such a newbie question.
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AMD processors can execute more instructions per clock cycle. The numbering
system of the AMD is family is much easier to understand than Intel.
AN example: AMD Athlon64 3200+ 2.2 GHz. The core frequency of the
processor is 2.2 GHz, but it performs as fast as an Intel 3.2 GHz (3200)
processor.
AMD has other advantages. Since AMD has moved the memory controller to the
processor, and has Direct Connect Architecture on the motherboard, and a
nominal 1600 MHz hypertransport bus, it can run circles around anything
Intel makes, including their hybrid EM64T chips. Everything Intel makes is
still based upon the P4 32 bit architecture, even it the chip is built to
understand EM64T.
Intel still relies on the Northbridge chip to handle CPU-RAM IO ops (read
SLOOOOWWW).
Intel has no direct connect architecture, and definitely does not have
Hypertransport.

Intel used to be the best; they got lazy and stopped innovating. Now AMD
has risen to the point wherein last month 52% of all processors sold in the
US (either as systems or PIB) were AMD.

One final thought; the standards developed by AMD for their Athlon 64 chips
is now regarded as "the" standard. Microsoft is using only AMD processors
not at its two campuses that are responsible for the development of current
and future versions of Windows.

Smart money is on AMD.

Intel fanboy flames will be ignored; I personally use to be a hardcore Intel
fanboy myself until I woke up and realized that Intel is getting left in the
dust.

Bobby
 
Never mind, I see someone asked a similar question already. Thx.
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Only 500 Gazillion times over the last ten years. Perhaps learning how
to use google to search newsgroups for the answers that you seek first
will save you future embarrassment.

Bill
 
On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 23:27:56 +0000, NoNoBadDog! wrote:

Intel used to be the best; they got lazy and stopped innovating. Now AMD
has risen to the point wherein last month 52% of all processors sold in the
US (either as systems or PIB) were AMD.
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I don't think this is correct. AFAIK, is the number of systems sold
*retail* (Best Buy, Staples, CircuitShitty, etc.), excluding mail order
(Dell, et. al.)
One final thought; the standards developed by AMD for their Athlon 64
chips is now regarded as "the" standard. Microsoft is using only AMD
processors not at its two campuses that are responsible for the
development of current and future versions of Windows.
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Uh oh.
Smart money is on AMD.
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That's where ours is ($21.85 close Friday). ;-)
Intel fanboy flames will be ignored; I personally use to be a hardcore
Intel fanboy myself until I woke up and realized that Intel is getting
left in the dust.
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I realized it oh, about 1998. ;-)
 
Bill said:
Only 500 Gazillion times over the last ten years. Perhaps learning how
to use google to search newsgroups for the answers that you seek first
will save you future embarrassment.

Bill
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The only person who should be embarrassed is you. The guy said nevermind
cuz he found the question was asked already, and you want to be a prick and
still complain about him not searching. Pretty soon, every question will be
asked and answered on the internet.. so I guess no one will have to
communicate.

Also, prices change which means the answer to his question changes as well,
or new products are introduced which in turn gives new answers. There may
also be someone else out there that hadn't put his two cents in that may
actually do so this time... so in my opinion, if the question has already
been asked, and you don't have anything posative to post, then by pass the
thread and don't say a thing.

I've seen many threads about the same thing, and I usually read them all if
they are something I'm interested in because usually I learn just a little
bit more each time something is asked. However, you have to learn to look
past your shallow thinking to be able to do that.

Daniel
 
The only person who should be embarrassed is you.
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Being instructive does not embarrass me. Does sticking your nose in
and needlessly defending people unasked embarrass you?
The guy said nevermind
cuz he found the question was asked already, and you want to be a prick and
still complain about him not searching.
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Pointing a faster, better, more efficient way to do things is not
being a prick. Had some problems in school did you?
Pretty soon, every question will be
asked and answered on the internet..
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Problems in school and limited imagination. I'm beginning to see your
problem.
so I guess no one will have to
communicate.
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Repeating answers isn't communicating; it's parroting. Try to grasp
the difference.
Also, prices change which means the answer to his question changes as well,
or new products are introduced which in turn gives new answers.
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There was nothing in his post that hadn't been answered here recently.
The OP stated so himself, as you pointed out.
There may
also be someone else out there that hadn't put his two cents in that may
actually do so this time...
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And he's still free to do so. This is Usenet you know.
so in my opinion, if the question has already
been asked, and you don't have anything posative to post, then by pass the
thread and don't say a thing.
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Doctor, heal thyself.
I've seen many threads about the same thing, and I usually read them all if
they are something I'm interested in because usually I learn just a little
bit more each time something is asked. However, you have to learn to look
past your shallow thinking to be able to do that.
PKB.


Daniel
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HTH, HAND,

Bill
 
Bill said:
Only 500 Gazillion times over the last ten years. Perhaps learning how
to use google to search newsgroups for the answers that you seek first
will save you future embarrassment.

Bill
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How does the C7-M compare to a Geode...
For some things there Google
For everything else there is just learning at your own cost
 
How does the C7-M compare to a Geode...
For some things there Google
For everything else there is just learning at your own cost
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http://www.google.com/search?q=c7-
m+geode&hl=en&lr=lang_en&sa=X&oi=lrtip7

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=c7-m%
20geode&hl=en&lr=&sa=N&oi=lrtip7&tab=wg

A question that does not seem to have been asked before. Refreshing.
While I have no other input and small interest except for curiousty's
sake, it would appear to be a subject that breaks new ground.

Should a new thread be started, or just hijack this one? :)

Bill
 
Robbie said:
I am looking to get away from Intel and try the AMD brand. I am having some
trouble comparing the two... Mainly the AMD rated GHZ is so much lower. I am
guessing that the AMD performs so much better that an equivalent Intel would
need to have a higher rating? Anyway, I am looking into the 200 - 250 price
range. There seems to be so many to choose from.... I guess if I could
determine how to "compare" it to the Intel, that would help me decide.
Thanks and sorry for such a newbie question.
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Hi

I am currently using an Amd 64 3000 and its a great performer and is
cheap to buy. The processor is easyly overclocked to run like a Amd 64
3800.
 
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